Questions about a makarov.


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Didorian
December 2, 2012, 04:31 PM
Anybody here carry one as their CCW?
If so, what type of holster?
Any tips for the best ammo for it?
9X18?, .380?
Any special way of handling it differently than other pistols?

Looking into getting one. So if anyone on here has some real life experience with this handgun that they would like to share, I'd be happy to hear it.

Thank you in advance.

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PabloJ
December 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
SIG 230/239 holsters are just tiny bid too long and if one files de-cocker/safety lever a bit then Bianchi leather one designed for the H&K P7 is perfect fit. Horady & Fiocchi make very good ammo in this caliber. The Fiocchi is loaded to cartridge full potential. If you don't mind using FMJ then Novosibirsk LVE ammo is best bang for the buck.

Robbins290
December 2, 2012, 06:25 PM
when I carried my makarov, I used a black hawk pancake holster size 5. took the back strap off and put the belt over the holster to help keep tension on it. worked perfect for me

North Bender
December 2, 2012, 06:33 PM
... if one files de-cocker/safety lever a bit ...

Holy Moly!! To fit a holster?

mgmorden
December 2, 2012, 09:28 PM
I've got one that I occasionally carry (I carry my LCP more, but my Makarov is actually sitting on my hip right now :)).

I carry it in a Theis IWB holster (its a lot like a Crossbred). Carries well and its a good accurate gun. Just make sure you change out the stock grips. The lanyard loop on the stock ones dig into the skin a bit.

mgmorden
December 2, 2012, 09:29 PM
Holy Moly!! To fit a holster?

Agree. I've filed a holster to fit a gun before, but never filed a gun to fit a holster.

Always modify the least expensive component.

jon_in_wv
December 2, 2012, 10:58 PM
The Mak is a good carry gun. You won't find many more accurate and none more reliable. Its very slim and easy to shoot well. There are quite a few holsters available made for the Makarovs so it shouldn't be hard to find one. The Maks seem you feed just about anything. When I carried mine I carried it with Silver Bear 115gr JHPs. I currently load mine with Hornady XTPs. The new critical defense looks like a good option for them too.

TEAM101
December 2, 2012, 11:05 PM
I don't believe it it is safe for loaded chamber, hammer down carry unless the safety is engaged. Seems I read an article on it some years ago and the author was able to dent the primer of a primed case by striking the hammer.

AnthonyRSS
December 2, 2012, 11:08 PM
My brother just got a Falco holster for his new Mak. Looks well built.

bdb benzino
December 3, 2012, 02:13 AM
I don't believe it it is safe for loaded chamber, hammer down carry unless the safety is engaged. Seems I read an article on it some years ago and the author was able to dent the primer of a primed case by striking the hammer.

While it doesn't have a firing pin safety, I am pretty sure its just like a 1911 in reguards to needing a strong enough spring so the firing pin wont accidentally strike the primer, unless you drop it muzzle down from 12 ft in the air. That's a problem I have yet to hear about.

To the OP, Its not the most potent caliber, but I love carrying and shooting mine. Reliable, accurate, and easy to shoot, it doesn't lack much!

Kiln
December 3, 2012, 03:13 AM
There are too many brand new guns in the $350 range to consider the Makarov IMO.

I am aware that a recommendation to buy something different isn't what you asked for but why buy an older used gun when there's new stuff in the same price range that actually have companies that will fix them and plenty of parts available?

Also, please don't take my comment as saying that the Makarov isn't a great gun. All I'm saying is that the Makarov has now entered a price range where there are tons of better options.

BHP FAN
December 3, 2012, 03:30 AM
Don Hume no. 59 is an exact fit, and there is a matching single mag pouch.

WardenWolf
December 3, 2012, 02:45 PM
There are too many brand new guns in the $350 range to consider the Makarov IMO.

I am aware that a recommendation to buy something different isn't what you asked for but why buy an older used gun when there's new stuff in the same price range that actually have companies that will fix them and plenty of parts available?

Also, please don't take my comment as saying that the Makarov isn't a great gun. All I'm saying is that the Makarov has now entered a price range where there are tons of better options.

The answer is that you can get a gun that offers superior reliability at a lower price than a new commercial gun. There are plenty of parts out there, all cheap, and the gun is 100% user-serviceable. The only thing you actually need tools for is the sear / slide stop spring, and then only a pair of needlenose pliers. Additionally, the Makarov has an excellent trigger and an excellent safety that are actually superior to the Bersa Thunder .380.

I briefly carried my Makarov as a concealed piece, but found it a little large and switched to its smaller brother, the Polish P-64. The Makarov is still one of my favorite pistols, though. Both pistols fit well in a Don Hume Makarov holster, and that is the holster I would recommend.

PabloJ
December 3, 2012, 04:26 PM
There are too many brand new guns in the $350 range to consider the Makarov IMO.

I am aware that a recommendation to buy something different isn't what you asked for but why buy an older used gun when there's new stuff in the same price range that actually have companies that will fix them and plenty of parts available?

Also, please don't take my comment as saying that the Makarov isn't a great gun. All I'm saying is that the Makarov has now entered a price range where there are tons of better options.
One should be able to pick up one in top shape for about $250. My personal weapon isn't much larger then PM yet with "two handed ammo" it has same velocity at 75 paces as 9x18 at muzzle and more then 2x energy in ft-lbs at that distance.

Kiln
December 3, 2012, 05:03 PM
One should be able to pick up one in top shape for about $250. My personal weapon isn't much larger then PM yet with "two handed ammo" it has same velocity at 75 paces as 9x18 at muzzle and more then 2x energy in ft-lbs at that distance.
Actual Russian Maks are going for $350+ on GB and in my area, I'm wondering if you guys are a little out of touch with how much they actually cost these days.

$350 is just too high IMO for a used surplus gun when there are lots of new guns in that range.

Pilot
December 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
You can still get Bulgarian Makarovs which are just as nice as Russians only more available for around $200. They are worth every penny.

M-Cameron
December 3, 2012, 05:15 PM
while not technically a makarov....the P64 is a fantastic carry gun.

small size, very slim, good weight, and fantastically accurate....

plus you can pick them up for $180......i challenge you to find a better gun for the price.

Kiln
December 3, 2012, 05:23 PM
while not technically a makarov....the P64 is a fantastic carry gun.

small size, very slim, good weight, and fantastically accurate....

plus you can pick them up for $180......i challenge you to find a better gun for the price.
I had a P64 and disliked it, that little gun was one of the few that actually bruised the web of my hand in 50 rounds or so. Parts for the P64 are not common either.

I actually prefer the Hungarian PA63 because it is much lighter and has much more comfortable recoil too. Only downside of the PA63 is the DA trigger pull. I have heard that you can make the trigger much better with a spring swap though.

I was strictly going by actual Russian Makarovs with my comments above, there are lots of cheap pistols in that price range but the Russian Mak is no longer cheap.

Didorian
December 3, 2012, 06:50 PM
I thank you all very much for the information. I now have much to ponder. :D

WardenWolf
December 3, 2012, 07:39 PM
Only downside of the PA63 is the DA trigger pull. I have heard that you can make the trigger much better with a spring swap though.

That is correct. Wolff offers 11, 13, and 15-pound springs. You want the 13-pound spring. The 11-pound spring causes light strikes. I know from experience. The 13-pound spring is just right, though. Changing the spring is extremely easy, easier even than changing a 1911 housing. Just remove the grips, push out a pin, and the spring plunger comes right out. Take the old spring off, put the new one on, and you're good.

Regarding the P-64, it can be made much more pleasant to shoot with a set of Marschall wood grips (http://www.marschallgrips.com). However, it's not a gun you should shoot a lot. Just enough to be in practice with it. Some Siteglo sight paint also helps dramatically.

Oh, I forgot to mention, Hornady now makes their Critical Defense and XTP ammo in 9x18 Makarov. However, at least one of their versions does not feed correctly in the P-64. A real Russian or Bulgarian Makarov, on the other hand, will eat anything. Buffalo Bore also has a +P loading that's safe to use in any of the steel-framed pistols (NOT the PA-63).

M-Cameron
December 3, 2012, 07:47 PM
you know, i hear people complain about the P64 recoil.......i just dont see it.

i mean, it could be that i am desensitized to recoil because i started shooting with a .357 snubnose revolver......but i have not yet shot an autoloader that had a 'hard' / 'stiff' / 'unpleasant' / or 'unmanagable' recoil......and ive shot everything from .22 to .45 in just about every size frame out there.

Kiln
December 3, 2012, 08:05 PM
you know, i hear people complain about the P64 recoil.......i just dont see it.

i mean, it could be that i am desensitized to recoil because i started shooting with a .357 snubnose revolver......but i have not yet shot an autoloader that had a 'hard' / 'stiff' / 'unpleasant' / or 'unmanagable' recoil......and ive shot everything from .22 to .45 in just about every size frame out there.
The P64 was more uncomfortable to me than the Security Six I had and the Kel Tec P40 I still have. I don't know why but the P64 was very punishing to shoot, I had a set of Marschal grips on it too.

itchy1
December 3, 2012, 09:25 PM
I guess the way I look at it is that I can shoot decent quality(Speer, Fed, etc.) 9luger ammo for the same price as cheap, dirty(Bear, Tula) Mak ammo. I'd personally rather spend the money on the better 9Luger ammo. There are a few limited brands of quality Mak ammo out there but you end paying closer to what it costs to shoot .40 or even .45. I'm talking purely target/plnking here. That being said, Maks are cool, reliable guns. They are built like tanks and never complain about what they are fed.

TEAM101
December 3, 2012, 11:22 PM
While it doesn't have a firing pin safety, I am pretty sure its just like a 1911 in reguards to needing a strong enough spring so the firing pin wont accidentally strike the primer, unless you drop it muzzle down from 12 ft in the air. That's a problem I have yet to hear about.

Dented primers were caused by a moderate blow to the hammer with a light mallet. This is close enough to an unintentional drop from a holster at waist level for me. It is a viable concern IMO and not a liability I would assume when I could spend the same on a safer pistol. Maks are nice guns, but not a consideration for carry IMO.

Ignition Override
December 4, 2012, 01:40 AM
WardenWolf:
As a guy comparing a few .380s along with the Maks, P-64 and FEG as a very First handgun, though I might choose not to "carry", just one question.
When you say that the P-64 isn't a gun you should shoot a lot, is it because of the DA pull with the original springs, or the recoil?

Three middle-aged friends who are very experienced with handguns (and rifles) carry the P-64, but I haven't asked them any detailed questions about them.

Has anybody here or a friend etc bought a Makarov-caliber handgun (single-stack magazine), or .380 Makarov as their very first handgun?:scrutiny:
It would seem that other than spare parts, the .380 Maks have a much wider selection of rounds and bullet specs.

PabloJ
December 4, 2012, 02:25 AM
I was referring to commercial IJ guns with adjustable rear sight which sell in $225 to $250 range. The ones with higher cap magazines go for >$300. Last Bulgarian military/police gun had $289 on it. I can't see how P-64 is much worse then LCP which is far from pleasant to shoot.

mgmorden
December 4, 2012, 12:07 PM
I can't see how P-64 is much worse then LCP which is far from pleasant to shoot.

From a carry perspective, the LCP is a lot lighter. That actually makes it more unpleasant to shoot, but realistically most of these guns are carried FAR more than they're shot so I'd rather take the comfort on the activity performed daily vs the one that's almost never done.

WardenWolf
December 4, 2012, 12:15 PM
WardenWolf:
As a guy comparing a few .380s along with the Maks, P-64 and FEG as a very First handgun, though I might choose not to "carry", just one question.
When you say that the P-64 isn't a gun you should shoot a lot, is it because of the DA pull with the original springs, or the recoil?

Three middle-aged friends who are very experienced with handguns (and rifles) carry the P-64, but I haven't asked them any detailed questions about them.

Has anybody here or a friend etc bought a Makarov-caliber handgun (single-stack magazine), or .380 Makarov as their very first handgun?:scrutiny:
It would seem that other than spare parts, the .380 Maks have a much wider selection of rounds and bullet specs.
Little bit of background: I own a Bulgarian Makarov, a FEG PA-63, and a Polish P-64. I can give you details about all of these guns.

The P-64 is a little rough on the recoil, even with new springs and new grips. That's why I say it's not a gun you should shoot a lot. However, it's easy to be proficient with it. With a new hammer spring, the trigger isn't bad, though. Yes, it's heavy, but the pull length is good and the operation is smooth. And followup shots have a very light trigger. The gun is very easy to shoot accurately, and accuracy is amazingly good.

The 9x18 round is gaining in popularity and options for good ammo are increasing. Hornady makes their self-defense ammo in 9x18, and Buffalo Bore also has +P options. Sellier & Bellot makes FMJ, as does Blazer / CCI. You won't be wanting for good ammo, ever. And cheap ammo is available through Silver Bear.

The .380 Makarov guns share a complete parts commonality with the 9x18 guns. The only difference is the barrel. In fact, a 9x18 gun *can* shoot .380 in a pinch. It's just not recommended because the cartridge length and bullet size aren't an exact match. However, it is better to stick with 9x18, as the round is a little more powerful.

My Makarov was one of my first "serious" handguns that I bought myself. It was preceded by a Romanian Tokarev and a Ruger Mark III. It was the first one I ever intended to carry, though. I thoroughly researched it first. One nice thing about the Makarov itself is its safety features. The safety is a very nice pull-down safety, which makes it much easier to operate. It also functions as a decocker. Additionally, the gun blocks the hammer until the trigger is pulled, even with the safety off. The decocker mechanism is safe to use, by the way. I carefully checked it and discovered the hammer is fully blocked before it releases the hammer.

The P-64 is not fully "drop safe" with the safety off. The hammer is not blocked. However, with a decent holster like the Don Hume Makarov holster, this is really a moot point. I would have to do handstands to get my gun to come out. I'm not afraid to carry it safety-off.

The PA-63 is a fine gun, and fun to shoot. It's definitely my favorite of my Makarov-caliber guns. It's got a decent trigger, and looks and feels good in the hand. I will note, however, that the magazine release is not as good as other Makarov-caliber guns. While it has a push-button release, the magazine fits tightly and is not drop-free. The Makarov and P-64, with their heel release, will drop free once you push the release, and doing so also puts your hand in position to hook the finger guard and pull it out quickly if necessary.

Buck13
December 4, 2012, 03:43 PM
never mind

krupparms
December 5, 2012, 02:50 PM
I have owned a number of Mak.s & PA-63s in both cal.s . The Mak.s are nice &make good carry guns. The PA-63/PMK are better carry guns IMO as they are lighter & more compact. Both cal.s have good SD ammunition available &holsters also. I believe the 9 mak.round is better, but not by much. I have used both as carry guns &would not feel under guned with eather one. But I do prefer my FEG -PMK in .380 acp.to be the one I would carry. Good luck with whatever you choose. BTW these guns can be found new/unused for around 150-225 dollars so look around. Just got a used PA-63 in .380acp for $100 out the door at a local GS!;)

mr.trooper
December 5, 2012, 03:15 PM
9X18 is cheap, and the MAK has so very few parts. It is a symphony of simplicity that no modern pistol xan match. Every part seems to fill at least 3 functions.

WardenWolf
December 5, 2012, 05:49 PM
I can honestly say I've had my Makarov 100% disassembled. There's very little to go wrong with one, and it's amazingly easy to work on. Once you realize how simple it is, and how well it works, you'll wonder why other firearms don't use this same trigger group design. It would not be hard to incorporate it into another action.

Roadking Rider
December 5, 2012, 06:39 PM
I use the Hornady 9x18 JHP's in my CZ82 for SD. For plinking I use the Brown Bears FMJ's.

Cactus Jack Arizona
December 5, 2012, 07:22 PM
The IJ-70's, as well as it's counter parts, are the best balanced pistols for the 9x18 round.

The CZ-82 is a great pistol, but it is a bit too heavy for comfortable conceal carry, at least for me. I do like the 12+1 ability.

Although I really liked my PA-63 overall, it was beginning to display a harsh recoil. I found myself shooting it less and less in favor of the IJ-70.

The P-64 I had was incredibly accurate for having such a short barrel. Accuracy wise, it put my Glock 19 to shame. However, like others have said, I found the recoil virtually unbearable. It was the most uncomfortable pistol I've shot to date.

This is why I stated that the IJ-70's and the Bulgarian, East German, and Chinese counter parts have the best balance for the 9x18 round. It's heavy enough to deal with the recoil comfortably and yet light enough to carry IWB. I no longer carry it in my fanny pack styled holster due to it's weight. I guess it has something to do with the holster hanging on one side instead of fitting snug against the body, and therefore irritated my already bad back.

To the fella that mentioned that the Mak would dent the primer if you gave the hammer a good whack, I only have one thing to say; Don't do that. :neener: I always carry my IJ-70 with the safety on. I love how it locks everything up.

jake_yer_booty
December 5, 2012, 08:00 PM
Welcome to the world that Nikolai built! Commie guns are some of the most interesting stuff to collect. They are marvelously simple and reliable, with industrial methods that allowed production across many of the "allied" nations of the People's bloc. The Mak is no exception.

Most people say the Russian ones are the best. Personally, I think the Bulgarians are sufficiently well-finished and a much better buy than those from the Motherland. However, they all need to be broken in by shooting before mechanisms lose the grittiness characteristic of the Mak action.

Like many small blowback pistols, the recoil impulse feels sharper than a G19 or other 9x19 of similar weight, but muzzle rise is actually less: quite manageable with quick follow-ups readily achievable. Just the same, both the trigger and the guard are somewhat sharp edged and it's not as pleasant to shoot boxes and boxes of cheap ammo as a Capitalist Pigdog piece in NATO nine. And they do "bite" the web of the hand if you are amongst those of us whose skin is, shall we say, less elastic than it was back during the Punic Wars.

Sights are a challenge -- they are typical of any service pistol from the mid-20th century: poor. My eyes are right at the limit of Mak-friendly shooting. I suspect in another few years these little guys will not see much use. But I bring one along on almost every range trip and gun-friendly outings.

Contrary to the opinion of many, Comrade Makarov's Defender of the Revolution will readily demonstrate accuracy better than Minute-of-Kneeling-Dissident at two meters. I've attached a pic from today's range session. With serious practice over, I punched this 10 shot group with a Bulgy at 50 feet. Yes, this is about as good as I can shoot them, and no, you will not win the NRA Sectional with yours, either. But it's the equal of pretty much any currently manufactured .380, IMO. And you will never ever need to box it up and send it back to the factory in Sofia for a tune up.

As for "duty" use: I think they are a bit on the large side for a 9x18 / .380 class pistol. But I would not worry about its ability to do the job. I do maintain one in a hidden in a "special" place for specific defensive purposes. I won't share details, but let's just say it's not a flippant choice.

jon_in_wv
December 5, 2012, 11:40 PM
Any discussion of the Makarov always seems to involve people throwing in the P64 and the P63. They are not the same pistols as the Makarov and really don't belong in the conversation. The Makarov is in my opinion a much better pistol than either, is much more suited to concealed carry, and you can find many more people making holsters for the Makarov than the other two. Bringing them into the conversation is like talking about your favorite 9mm pistol every time someone else mentions another 9mm. Just because its the same caliber doesn't mean its the same thing.

The Makarov is a tough, service proven, well built, and well designed pistol. Many would say the caliber is marginal but its also easy to carry, accurate, and reliable as a hammer. I've carried mine concealed and I've never felt under gunned with it.

One quality I find strange about the Maks is when fired slow fire only they feel like they recoil quite a bit but when you pick up the speed and shoot them quickly they seem to just smooth out and shoot sooooo well. Its kind of like a Harley that shakes like crazy when idling but smooths out as soon as the revs rise. I don't know if anyone else has noticed that but its just my impression.

jon_in_wv
December 5, 2012, 11:50 PM
I don't believe it it is safe for loaded chamber, hammer down carry unless the safety is engaged. Seems I read an article on it some years ago and the author was able to dent the primer of a primed case by striking the hammer.

The Maks are safe carried with a round in the chamber. Even the great state of California decided it was safe since it passed their ridiculous tests. The Mak uses a rebounding hammer. I guess its possible you could smack it with a hammer and get a round to go off but the hammer is held there by spring tension and its pretty light weight. I can't imagine you would get it to fire unless you did something pretty extreme to it. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it and if I was worried about it I would just carry it with the safety engaged.

Actual Russian Maks are going for $350+ on GB and in my area, I'm wondering if you guys are a little out of touch with how much they actually cost these days.

$350 is just too high IMO for a used surplus gun when there are lots of new guns in that range.

Thats funny. You do know that the Russians aren't the only ones who made Makarovs right? In fact most of the "surplus gun" Russians you are talking about aren't even surplus guns. They are commercial guns made for export. It sounds like YOU are the one who is out of touch. In fact I was at a gun show this weekend and saw several Bulgarian Makarovs for sale in the 200-250 range. There was a COMMERCIAL Russian in stainless for $350. Not the mention the, "in my area" argument is a little out of touch when you consider you can order a pistol online from anyplace in the country and Gunbroker isn't the cheapest around either. You cans still find Maks for a little over $200 and there are precious few other pistols you will find at that price that will perform as well as the Makarov.

makarovnik
December 6, 2012, 12:25 AM
I use a soft IWB holster for my mak.

No firing pin spring at all as it just bounces around in the channel. No problem because hammer should not completely contact the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled all the way back.

Maybe the firing pin is heavy enough to slam forward and dent a primer from it's own mass/weight but I doubt it.

Maybe the safety/block lever is worn out on some. It's a cheap part to replace.

WardenWolf
December 6, 2012, 04:29 PM
The Makarov hammer is actually blocked when it's down, regardless of whether the safety is on. The safety-off hammer block isn't very visible, but it's there. It's one of the safest guns out there.

gripper
December 6, 2012, 07:18 PM
I carry a Bulgarian Circle10 in a Fobus paddle rig... also, a Galco foldaway and a Gould& Goyld universal rug does for it( as well as a P64, or my Tokarev.).

Keeterbird
December 6, 2012, 09:19 PM
Back to the holster. I bought a pair of new shoulder carry holsters from Sportsmansguide.com. I think they were $14. The Mak fits perfectly and it is great for concealed carry.

firecrackerktm
December 7, 2012, 02:33 AM
Anybody here carry one as their CCW?
If so, what type of holster?
Any tips for the best ammo for it?
9X18?, .380?
Any special way of handling it differently than other pistols?

Looking into getting one. So if anyone on here has some real life experience with this handgun that they would like to share, I'd be happy to hear it.

Thank you in advance.

My dad left me a Russian Mak in .380. I carried it in an inexpensive IWB holster or a remora, and it even fit in my belly band. It was my EDC gun until I bought my p238. The Mak shoots surprisingly well, and is easy to strip and clean. I can't comment on the 9x18 round though.

I carry the Sig more now because if I'm going to carry a .380, I might as well carry a small enough gun to hide more easily. But I still take it to the range because it is a nice gun to shoot.

gripper
December 7, 2012, 09:24 AM
9x18= 90-94 grn bullet @roughly 1000-1100 FPS froma Makarov barrel..right in between a. 380& a 9x19 mm as far as power goes.Easy to shoot well in a Makarov under stress( or a P64 if you practice)

jrdolall
December 7, 2012, 09:50 AM
I saw a Bulgaian at a LGS earlier this week for $200. Good condition with an extra mag. I almost got it but then decided (for the 20th time) that I don't need another caliber. I will probably go back and buy it this weekend.

Ignition Override
December 9, 2012, 01:09 AM
WardenWolf:
Thanks very much for the detailed comparison.

winchester1886
December 9, 2012, 01:36 AM
I carry mine in a High Noon IWB holster works great and cheaper than Forbus.

jon_in_wv
December 15, 2012, 11:35 AM
BTW, I find it interesting how many people always argue how penetration is king and energy, velocity, etc.....don't mean anything but they will totally discount a pistol like the Makarov as "underpowered" or "marginal caliber". There are many loads for the Makarov that will penetrate deeply and the Makarov is slim, accurate, and one of the most dead reliable pistols made. If you want good expanding ammo AND deep penetration then your choices are limited but how many guys carry FMJs in their pistols anyhow? Personally, I think there are better choices too. I used to carry a Makarov and now I carry my M&P 9C or my 3913. But you won't find either of them for $200. I've never felt undergunned with my Makarov and I've never questioned its accuracy or reliability. In fact I find it rather comical that Glock guys will argue until they are blue in the face that the Glock is the best pistol made because it only have 35 parts (its more like 50+) and they won't listen to the fact the Makarov actually does only have about 35 parts and much fewer moving parts. Its dead simple and dead realiable. Its like the AK47, simple and reliable. Are there better calibers? Lighter guns? Sure. Will it get the job done? It sure will.

Wanderling
December 15, 2012, 02:30 PM
There are too many brand new guns in the $350 range to consider the Makarov IMO.

I am aware that a recommendation to buy something different isn't what you asked for but why buy an older used gun when there's new stuff in the same price range that actually have companies that will fix them and plenty of parts available?

Also, please don't take my comment as saying that the Makarov isn't a great gun. All I'm saying is that the Makarov has now entered a price range where there are tons of better options.
Sure there's a ton of newer guns at the lower end of price range.

How many are as reliable, though ?

rodinal220
December 15, 2012, 02:30 PM
The Maks make great CC guns.I find them to be more reliable and less temper mental than say the Walther PP series.The East German ones are considered the nicest,but I have Bulgies,Russian and even a Chinese one that have never failed.
Since some of them can be had in .380 it makes a great combo.

ThirdWatcher
December 16, 2012, 03:33 AM
I have one of those Bulgarian Makarov pistols and I really like it. It is very reliable (no FTFs so far) and enjoyable to shoot. It really is a well-made pistol.

There's an outfit on Ebay that's selling Don Hume H726 leather holsters for $39.00 delivered. (I bought one and it works well for CCWing my Makarov.)

The only problem I've had is finding 9x18 ammo locally.

strange246
December 16, 2012, 08:32 PM
One of my carry guns is a Bulgarian Makarov, Wolff springs, I polished the internals and slightly re-contour'd the feed ramp, and it feeds any and all rounds available in 9x18 and I carry it about 70% of the time...

Deaf Smith
December 16, 2012, 11:24 PM
I find Kahr holsters work fine with the Mak.

Works very well.

If I packed it I'd use Buffalo Bore for serious use and FMJ for practice.

9X18 Makarov +P (115gr. hard cast flat nose @ 1,000 fps-ME 255 ft. Ibs.)

9X18 Makarov +P 95gr. JHP Item # 34A 1100 fps.

Still not a 9x19 but not all that bad.

Deaf

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