Does VEPR AK74 accept standard 30 rd mags?


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leadcounsel
December 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
Saiga AK74s accept standard mags without the conversation (The other caliber Saigas require a conversion). Anyone know if that's 922 compliant?

Do the VEPR 5.45 rifles also accept standard surplus mags and is that also 922 complaint?

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TurtlePhish
December 2, 2012, 07:59 PM
Without swapping out some foreign parts for US-made, it's non-compliant. You'll have to stick with US mags.

Edit: Actually, you'll need more than just US mags. You won't be able to use any mags with >10rd capacity without swapping parts.

1KPerDay
December 3, 2012, 01:57 PM
UNMODIFIED Veprs do not accept standard surplus mags. They come with 5 and 10-round Vepr plastic mags. If you modify the rifle to accept a 30 round mag (add bullet guide and file down the mag latch), you trigger 922R and have to swap out some parts with US-made ones. A (US-made) mag counts as 3 parts, so you need to swap one more to be compliant. And then you are ONLY compliant as long as you use the US made mags. Using a foreign mag requires you to swap 3 more parts (trigger group--3 parts that count-- is most popular).

At least this is my understanding. I just got my first AK variant last month (a Vepr in 7.62x39) and I'm learning as I go.

Man these laws are supid. :rolleyes:

WardenWolf
December 3, 2012, 03:05 PM
Not without filing down or replacing the magazine catch. You will also need to install a bullet guide. The bullet guide is easy to install. My friend ordered a kit from Dinzag and we installed it in minutes using a hand drill and the provided tap. The magazine catch, on the other hand, is just not fun if you plan to replace it. Replacing it is probably the best solution, though, because the amount of material you would have to remove is not insubstantial.

The magazine catch is difficult to replace due to the specialized hardware required, along with the very stiff spring. An AK magazine catch is held in place with a pin that has spread shoulders. To remove the original pin, you first must drill off the shoulder with a drill bit a little larger than the pin, then drive it through with a punch. However, replacing it is a female dog due to the spring pressure that makes getting the pin through the holes very difficult. What we wound up doing was slave pinning it with the shaft of a drill bit, then tapping the pin in behind it. It was still difficult getting it properly aligned.

Once it was in, we used an anvil and a hammer with some special taps we bought at Home Depot to spread the shoulders. At one point we even tapped in a star screwdriver bit. This part was fairly easy, and just involved a lot of hammering. The hammer used was a 16-ounce ball peen hammer with a wooden handle that I bought at Home Depot. I selected this hammer because of its balance, and the rounded side allows for some precision tapping in tight areas.

FIVETWOSEVEN
December 3, 2012, 05:26 PM
An AK magazine catch is held in place with a pin that has spread shoulders.

You mean a rivet. ;)

Quiet
December 3, 2012, 08:24 PM
VEPR rifles use proprietary magazines that are not compatible with standard AK magazines or Saiga magazines.

jdbaldoc
December 22, 2012, 12:25 AM
Does anyone have full instructions on converting the VEPR 7.62x39 over to accept high capacity AK-47 Mags.

Any help for a new member would greatly be appreciated.

1KPerDay
December 22, 2012, 01:03 AM
You will need to add a bullet guide (google dinzag). My vepr's trunion is round; I assume yours will be also.

You will also need to file the top of the magazine latch until the mags lock in properly. Make sure you maintain 922r compliance.

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