Problem reassembling a Ruger .22


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Dmath
December 2, 2012, 11:41 PM
I'm a newbie, obviously, so I don't know if this question has been raised before. It's an oddball problem with reassembling a Ruger .22 Mark I.

I am supposed to insert the long arm of the sear spring under the sear-spring retaining pin in the grip, but it just flat-out will not fit under there. (Which raises the really good question of how it got under there before I tore down the gun. All I know is, somehow it was there befoe, but won't go now.)

If interested, you can see the very helpful video at about 6:00 minutes on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ySpp0S6VPI

If anybody has any suggestions, I'd like to hear them.

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tipoc
December 2, 2012, 11:52 PM
Did you completely disassemble the gun or simply field strip it?

tipoc

Dmath
December 2, 2012, 11:58 PM
I disassembled it up to the trigger part. In other words, the hammer, sear, and all are out of the gun.
I can see how filing a hollow in the sear spring retaining pin would work, and I have started to do that, but it doesn't seem right to have to do that, and i'm wondering if there's something I missed.

gb6491
December 3, 2012, 12:31 AM
I disassembled it up to the trigger part. In other words, the hammer, sear, and all are out of the gun.
I can see how filing a hollow in the sear spring retaining pin would work, and I have started to do that, but it doesn't seem right to have to do that, and i'm wondering if there's something I missed.
Yikes! Please don't do that. Try positioning the spring before inserting the pivot pin:
http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm#Install
http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/GunStuff/Ruger/disassembly/dcp02178.jpg
Regards,
Greg

tipoc
December 3, 2012, 11:10 AM
There is a gunsmithing and repair section of this forum. You may have some help there.

tipoc

WardenWolf
December 3, 2012, 01:46 PM
I can't recall exactly how I got it back together on my father's Mark I, but I know I did. I had that gun completely disassembled, with all the trigger pins out, at one time. Unfortunately, both the Mark I and my Mark III are now 2500 miles away from me. I do recall that you had to put the spring leg under the retaining pin before fixing it in place with the other pin it's normally on.

Blue68f100
December 3, 2012, 03:11 PM
I normally start the pin the slip the spring over (frame on side slight angle) , install the sear and insert the pin all the way. The link to guntalk-online is one of the best. The photos to the side will enlarge for greater detail by clicking on them.

tipoc
December 3, 2012, 11:39 PM
You may also find a good deal of help and advice here...

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17

tipoc

tipoc
December 3, 2012, 11:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8N30fB7Nrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5eylgiNcI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AxHa0lZxBI

and there are a number of others as well.

greyling22
December 4, 2012, 10:57 AM
best of luck, be patient, and you will get it back together eventually. Then, buy a can of carb cleaner and a can of spray lube. use those on the frame and never take the hammer/sear/trigger parts out again.

utbrowningman
December 4, 2012, 01:34 PM
My Ruger Standard was a beast until I saw a video on YT of the proper way to reassemble.

Dmath
December 5, 2012, 07:09 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions. They are all good, and intelligent.

My problem is that the spring arm just does not fit between the frame and the pin. There just flat-out is not enough room.

I think once I get it under there, I will never again remove it. For the next deep cleaning, I will just leave it in place and work around the little sumbitch.

chriske
December 6, 2012, 08:44 AM
I never saw any need to disassemble my Ruger .22's (MK II both) that far.
Should I have ?

mljdeckard
December 6, 2012, 10:44 AM
Youtube is your friend.

One of the mods here had a signature line once, something to the effect of; "I successfully re-assembled my Ruger pistol. Never has such a difficult task left me feeling so hollow and unfilfilled."

Dmath
December 6, 2012, 11:14 AM
"I never saw any need to disassemble my Ruger .22's (MK II both) that far.
Should I have ? "

Probably not. I just happen to be one of those nutcases who find detailed disassembly and reassembly to be a fun challenge. Also, I am pretty sure that a gun that's allowed to get very dirty inside will eventually malfunction. To prevent that, no more than a routine field strip is necessary -- not a detailed dissambly.

For the Ruger .22, pulling the barrel off the frame, removing the bolt, and spraying everything with a good gun solvent (I love the smell), is all that's necessary. Then clean up and reassemble and go shooting.

But mostly for me the fun it's just the pleasant experience of cleaning that nice machinery. It's just a hobby.

243winxb
December 6, 2012, 11:45 AM
http://shopruger.com/images/61057_A03100_L.jpg Keep trying. Good luck. :)

kerreckt
December 6, 2012, 01:37 PM
Try this: http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/index.htm
I have sent it to others in the past and it seems to help.

mljdeckard
December 6, 2012, 03:53 PM
I disassembled my dad's old one probably for the first time ever because I was curious. We're talking DECADES here.) Not only was it filthy, but one of the tines on the recoil spring rod was broken, had been for years probably. $8 to fix it, but I never would have known. No, you don't have to be obsessive about it, but every gun should be inspected sooner or later.

Dmath
December 13, 2012, 03:39 PM
Woo hoo. Finally got it back together.

I'm afraid I did have to hollow out the sear-spring retaining pin a bit with a Dremel tool. Then the rest of the parts went back in with the aid of the invaluable advice suggested above.

I have not yet fired it, but function seems normal.

Mike Sr.
December 13, 2012, 03:46 PM
about 30+ yrs ago I took my first S&W 29, 44 mag apart, at 4 pm.....I finally got it back together about 12:30 a.m.

Now I can take a S&W revolver, apart and re-assemble in about 1/2 hour; I check each one that I now have or buy to make sure no hack gunsmithing.....

Effort well spent.

rcmodel
December 13, 2012, 03:54 PM
I'm afraid I did have to hollow out the sear-spring retaining pin a bit with a Dremel tool.Well that ain't right right there!

It is a rule of thumb when gunsmithing that if a part was in a gun and working, and you took it out?

Then it should not be necessary to change its dimensions to put it back in the same place it came out of.

You needed to figure out what the real problem was, rather then grinding the pin to fit where it previously fit just fine before.

rc

Bushpilot
December 13, 2012, 05:29 PM
I'm afraid I did have to hollow out the sear-spring retaining pin a bit with a Dremel tool.

Doh...

What RC said....

Time to buy a replacement part and try again... Good Luck...

I just happen to be one of those nutcases who find detailed disassembly and reassembly to be a fun challenge.

Well, if thats the case, I have an o/u on the bench right now (Grrrrrrrrr) that I'm trying to replace a v-type hammer spring in that you would have a field day with... but no Dremels tools allowed... LOL

kerreckt
December 13, 2012, 06:43 PM
You did what??? Kind of defies logic....don't you think?

Dmath
December 15, 2012, 09:56 AM
The gun is back together and apparently in fine working order. My wife has heard at some length about the insanity of anybody who would ever think about trying to take this particular gun apart, ever again, never, unto the next milennium. So -- it might be a few weeks before I take it apart. But if I do, I promise to replace the pin and never use a Dremel tool on a gun again. Fair enough?

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