Sears 30-30 Bolt Action (Savage 340)


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mcdonl
December 3, 2012, 01:52 PM
Ok... so I have struggled with this rifle for a few years now and it I cannot neither get rid of it, or make me like it. I am stuck between.

I love the looks of the rifle with no scope on it, because it has that "Dangerous Game" rifle look, without the large caliber. It is also a good 100 yard gun... but that seems to be the extent of the "good"....

Also, I got it for $100....

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The first problem with this gun is with the cycling of rounds. The typical round nose 30/30 rounds do not seem to load properly. This is common, so I found a load that works...

Powder - 21.7gr of H4198
Bullet - 150g BTSP Hornady
OAL - "Just short enough to function in the magazine...."

This load cycles and gets decent results... the top group was shot before making some scope adjustments and the bottom group was the final group post adjustments. The scope is a cheapo range finding tasco.

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I am not sure what to do, as it is not much of a bench gun and I do not feel confident with it in the field. Just not sure what to do with this charm.

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GCBurner
December 3, 2012, 03:05 PM
It's a rifle made particularly for shooting deer-size game at less than 200 yards. If that's what you wanted, I'd say you got your money's worth out of the $100 price. If you'd rather have a super-accurate benchrest rifle for shooting tiny groups, a long-range sniper-type, a fast-shooting "tactical" defensive rifle, a large calibre big-game rifle for Alaska or Africa, or some other type of shooting iron, you should be able to sell it for a bit more than you have invested in it and buy something else to fit your wants and needs.

mcdonl
December 3, 2012, 03:25 PM
It's a rifle made particularly for shooting deer-size game at less than 200 yards. If that's what you wanted, I'd say you got your money's worth out of the $100 price. If you'd rather have a super-accurate benchrest rifle for shooting tiny groups, a long-range sniper-type, a fast-shooting "tactical" defensive rifle, a large calibre big-game rifle for Alaska or Africa, or some other type of shooting iron, you should be able to sell it for a bit more than you have invested in it and buy something else to fit your wants and needs.

Well... I just got a Remington 700 in .308 for the bench... I also have two other 30/30's for hunting. I just do not know what I want to do with this thing. I know finding a scope mount was no easy task either!!

Sock Puppet
December 3, 2012, 04:52 PM
If you feel like selling it, you may find a shop that will take consignments. You reach a fairly large, gun-buying market and it may move quickly for someone looking for a budget rifle.

GooseGestapo
December 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Try using the Remington 150gr CorLokt .30/30 bullet. It's more "pointed" than most other .30/30 appropriate bullets. They also are typically accurate and perform flawlessly on deer if you do your part. I've shot/loaded for several of those rifles and can't say I ever had problems with them feeding. I'd suggest a new magazine.

Another bullet I've had excellent success with in the .30/30 is the Sierra 125gr PtSpt now called a "pro-hunter". It's a flat-base spitzer and is also effective on deer at .30/30 velocities. If cost is no barrier, the Nosler 125gr is very good.

When I started loaded center fire ammo, I started with the 130gr Speer HollowPoint in a Remington M788. Also got my first three-shot 1-hole group with it too. I imagine that it too is a good "deer" bullet at .30/30 speeds.

I had a Savage M340 back in the late '70's and early '80's. Got it for less than $100 and sold it for more. It was near MOA accurate and fed well from the magazine. My favorite load is one I still shoot in a .30/30 though with a slightly different powder.
I used the Lee 150gr FNGC cast from w/w and lubed with 50/50 alox over 30gr of IMR3031 for ~2,100fps. It was 2moa accurate and was very inexpensive to feed. I taught my wife to shoot with it. She was mad when I sold the rifle but changed her mind after she killed her first deer with my (now her's) M98 Custom Mauser in .257Roberts.....

I now use the same bullet/mould (my first mould bought in 1976) in a Marlin l/a over 32.0gr of RL15. Just last week I re-mounted a new scope on the rifle and got a 3-shot 1" group (all three were in a 1" target dot" at 100yds.... Not bad for a 36yr old mould and rifle....w/"home-made" bullets!!!

That's why I'd keep the M340. Turn it into a dedicated "cast bullet" rifle. You'll quit buying $$$ "copper monolithic" bullets once you see the performance of a cast bullet on our "little" deer....

mcdonl
December 5, 2012, 02:37 PM
Goosee, great post. I do cast my own.... I do not have that mold, but I will look into it. What is the other "50 in the 50/50 Alox.... Minneral Spirits?

I do enjoy this rifle. I think part of it is I feel like I need something new. So, maybe a mold will solve that problem.

husker
December 5, 2012, 06:44 PM
I will give you $150.00 for it

MCgunner
December 5, 2012, 06:55 PM
My old Savage 340 was a shooter, 1 MOA. I sold it to my Uncle who needed it and I needed the money. I loaded a 150 Sierra Spitzer in it, was good for at least 250 yards with that bullet, though I don't know how that bullet would have worked on deer. Only deer I shot with it was 80 yards with a flat point.

NOW days, I'd load it with a Nosler BT, 150 grain over 34 grains IMR 3031. My .30-30 12" contender has taken 5 deer cleanly with this load. That bullet works well at 2100 fps pistol speeds, let alone from a rifle. Longest shot was 90 yards. I've shot a couple of deer with the now discontinued 135 grain Pro Hunter, worked okay at .30-30 speeds from my SKS.

GooseGestapo
December 6, 2012, 12:23 AM
NRA lube is 50/50. Alox and beeswax.
Available in stick form from RCBS (rifle lube), Lee, Javelina, and I suppose others.
I also use SPG. Don't ask me what's in it. (I'm told steric acid, lanolin, and other components....).

mac66
December 7, 2012, 05:39 PM
Just bought a Stevens 325 which is the predecessor to the 340. So far it likes the Hornady LeverEvolution ammo, which is what I happened to have handy for my lever.

lefteyedom
December 8, 2012, 03:55 AM
Good basic gun...
A home gunsmith project,,,
If you want to be different and reload have it rechamber for 30/30 ackley imp...

37 grains of 3031 will push a 150 grain bullet 2500 to 2600 fps....

03Shadowbob
December 8, 2012, 08:25 AM
A friend of mine has this rifle and the hornady leverevolution rounds and Core-lokt rounds work well in it. He hasn't tried Winny PowerPoints or Federal so not sure about those rounds.
Gets great groups at 100 yards.

Fatelvis
December 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
Personallly, if I wanted to keep the rifle, and was serious about making it shoot well, I would switch that scope out for a cheaper Leupold, Bushnell Elite 3200, Nikon Prostaff, or something sililar. I just don't trust that scope. Just my opinion.

R.W.Dale
December 8, 2012, 10:18 PM
I've messed with a couple of these and probably have a third on the way.

As others mentioned its a rifle that's accurate enough for deer out to a couple hundred yards.

These are not the rifle to make super 30-30's out of. They have a very weak stretchy action, slow bores and very limited magazine length and a positively retarded bedding system.

They are merely a light handy cheap 30-30 that happens to not be a levetaction, no more no less




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