Ok, what are these?


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Twmaster
December 4, 2012, 04:24 AM
While not exactly reloading stuff I cannot find an ammunition forum...

Found these in a lot of goodies a friend handed over to me when he did a safe clean-out.

They are marked Speer 38 on the head. If you look inside the case with the black part removed it looks like a standard primer in there.

Is this some kind of blank??

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esheato
December 4, 2012, 04:29 AM
Speer training bullets. Propelled by a primer only, expect 300-400 fps. I still wouldn't shoot them at your buddies, but good enough for some impromptu practice.

Graf and sons sells them.

I've shot them in a revolver....fun but the primers backed out and bound up the cylinder.

Twmaster
December 4, 2012, 04:53 AM
Thank you. Neat huh?

I found them on Midway's web site. Here's the first review listed.... (Please be sure to not have any drink in your mouth... I will not be responsible if you spew it everywhere...)

These should be used with non-magnum primers only. I didn't have any, so I used some CCI 350 Magnum primers. While safe, these cases are just plastic and really aren't up to magnum primer pressures. The cases lasted 1 to 3 shots, and were done. Plus, the plastic bullets became way too deformed after the first shot to be reused. I shot a cockroach in my home with these and ... well, that was just dumb. It was terribly loud and while I almost got the roach, the plastic bullet ripped through the thin wood paneling. So don't use magnum primers and don't go cockroach hunting inside your own home. Otherwise, these are great!

:what:

Craigman
December 4, 2012, 05:25 AM
best review ever!

41 Mag
December 4, 2012, 06:17 AM
Yep those can be some big fun for sure, and as advertised and spoke of, they should never be shot at anything that might cause retaliation of any means.

I have several boxes of them in the 44's and have used them periodically through the years for rat and squirrel issues which have come up around the house here. From the 44 they are pretty darned accurate out to about 30ft, but you do have to know where to hold. They will cleanly take out a nice fat fox squirrel that has taken up residence in your attic if you can make the shot count.

cfullgraf
December 4, 2012, 08:15 AM
I tried out these practice bullets 25 or 30 years ago. With an appropriate bullet trap, the projectiles do not get damaged and can be re-used many times.

The trap i used was some soft materials in a box.

I do not exactly remember the life of the plastic cases but I do not remember it being short. A life of 1-3 uses would have stuck in my mind.

I think you can use standard brass cases, drilling out the flash hole. If you do that, keep the modified cases separate from mainstream cases.

But maybe I used the modified cases were used with wax projectiles, also powdered by primers.

mtrmn
December 4, 2012, 09:47 AM
I forget the brand name, X-ring or something like that, but I have some .45 practice bullets made of hard rubber and shaped like an airgun pellet. Prime a regular case and stuff the bullet in the case by hand. They will shoot all the way through several thicknesses of an old army surplus wool blanket draped over a dowel. This was my first backstop I tried. Had to find something a little more bulletproof. They are very accurate at about 25 feet, which is as far as I've shot them. I had forgot I had them til I read this thread.

Blue68f100
December 4, 2012, 10:11 AM
I have some for 38spl, 9mm and 380 somewhere around here. I had to reshape the bullets to feed and of course manually operate the slide. I used them when I first got into to DA revolves and handguns. Good training device if used properly. The back stop I used was a piece of 1/8" rubber suspended from the top 3-4" back from the front. I have also used leather as the stopping material too, but the sharp edges on the bullets will cut it. Leather works fine for airsoft.

Searcher4851
December 4, 2012, 12:27 PM
The cases will last until the primer pocket gets too loose. The projectiles are reusable many times, as long as you shoot them into something soft. I use carpet scraps suspended from a horizontal pole. They will penetrate several layers of cardboard. Wind has a big effect on the projectiles. I shoot them in my garage. Indoors, make sure you have good ventilation.

dickttx
December 5, 2012, 01:19 PM
I too have some of the 38's from the late 60's.

JLDickmon
December 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
thank you. Neat huh?

I found them on midway's web site. Here's the first review listed.... (please be sure to not have any drink in your mouth... I will not be responsible if you spew it everywhere...)



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best review evar!!!!!!!

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