Awesome trigger discipline under pressure!


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Trueno
December 4, 2012, 06:26 PM
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb390/AK_junky/misc_firearms/sfkrink3b.jpg




































http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb390/AK_junky/misc_firearms/sfkrink3.jpg



Maybe the camera looked like a grenade?
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Skribs
December 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
Uh...context?

Trueno
December 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dunno, but whatever game they're playing it looks like he might be in last place. That, and the right-side folding stock is interesting.

t

tyeo098
December 4, 2012, 09:03 PM
wat

Al Thompson
December 5, 2012, 08:22 AM
I'm not seeing it as out of the ordinary. While I heartily approve, our military and police do the same everyday.

zdc1775
December 5, 2012, 08:28 AM
What kind of rifle is that? Looks like an AK variant but the dust cover looks different.

Blackstone
December 5, 2012, 09:25 AM
Some more info would be nice...

Ragnar Danneskjold
December 5, 2012, 09:50 AM
Not that hard. Nothing some training doesn't accomplish. There's thousands of 18 year old Privates out there who do the same thing under pressure.

JustinJ
December 5, 2012, 10:48 AM
When did Dave Chappelle start working security?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Dave_Chappelle_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Dave_Chappelle_%28cropped%29.jpg

parsimonious_instead
December 6, 2012, 09:19 AM
I took C. Robert McDowell's HG101 class out in McKean, PA a few years back. Very emphatic about trigger discipline. To illustrate his point, he showed us a very striking picture he has hung on the wall - a wounded Marine in Iraq, carried out by his buddies after a brutal close quarter fight with insurgents hiding in a house. His sidearm is in one hand, and it's clear beyond any doubt that despite all he's gone through - his trigger finger is exactly where it's supposed to be.

Hapworth
December 6, 2012, 03:32 PM
What am I missing? I see a guy yelling at a cameraman -- most people can look all manner of scared or silly when their picture's being taken at a rate of thirty a second.

His finger looks to be off the trigger.

:confused:

Odd Job
December 6, 2012, 03:40 PM
Rifle looks like a South African Galil clone, probably an R5.

USAF_Vet
December 7, 2012, 08:01 PM
I wonder if these guys are related?

http://fridayafter5.com/_uploads/water-balloon-1.jpg

Trueno
December 7, 2012, 08:25 PM
What kind of rifle is that? Looks like an AK variant but the dust cover looks different.

Dust cover definitely looks like a Krinkov, hinged at the front, but the stock folding to the right is messin' with my head. That, and the housing for the hinge mech of the stock sticks out an inch or so past the rear of the rec'r instead of flush like a Krink.

Has an AK-style charging handle, gas tube and lower handguard...any other guesses?

t

USAF_Vet
December 7, 2012, 08:30 PM
Well, he's also a lefty, so shooting with the stock folded would be a lot more comfortable. I'd much prefer a right side folding stock (provided it doesn't interfere with the bolt or ejecting empties). Looks like an AK platform with a (possibly) custom side folding stock.

Hapworth
December 7, 2012, 09:55 PM
...but the stock folding to the right is messin' with my head.Reversed picture?

Trent
December 7, 2012, 10:45 PM
EDIT: Not an east german.

sgtstryker
December 7, 2012, 10:52 PM
Don't think the photo is reversed, his coat buttons are on the correct side. I agree with a South African R5.

Trueno
December 7, 2012, 11:12 PM
It's an East German side folding stock. I have two of them.

Folds to the right, but it's not a wire folder.

t

Trent
December 7, 2012, 11:15 PM
Yeah now that you mention it, the back trunion also isn't right for an East German.

Hmm.

Now I'm really curious!

Trent
December 7, 2012, 11:19 PM
South american RPK-5 with shortened barrel?

http://i47.tinypic.com/ac65us.jpg

EDIT:

Rifle looks like a South African Galil clone, probably an R5.

Crap, looks like Odd Job already got it. :)

Trent
December 7, 2012, 11:21 PM
OK Now I'm thinking a krink with that triangle stock above.

The dust cover has the sights in the OP, that's a really weird set up.

Trueno
December 7, 2012, 11:46 PM
Pretty sure that's a hinged top cover, so it's not an R5.

Also, standard Krinkov cover:
http://www.k-var.com/shop/images/KR-345B.jpg

"New Generation" cover:
http://www.k-var.com/shop/images/KR-333P.jpg


So...the pictured rifle is possibly equipped with the "new" cover, but the sidefolder is still a mystery.

t

Odd Job
December 8, 2012, 04:36 AM
The more I look at it, the more I don't think it is an R5. Here is a select fire R5 I tried in South Africa:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/SLR-R5556mmRifle01.jpg

Charging handle and furniture up front look different.

EDIT: have a look in this thread, there is a possible match (folding Saiga 12):

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_80/130145__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Saiga_12_with_a_triangular_side_folder_.html&page=1#i1056638

Odd Job
December 8, 2012, 04:50 AM
My Google-fu is strong, chaps:

http://julius-malema-south-africa.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/julius-malema-pictures-news-quotes.html

Trent
December 8, 2012, 01:10 PM
OK ... Messing with those bodyguards is now on my short list of "Things to Never Do."

Those look like some REAL unpleasant people. :)

Couple more I found:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-jHJsdNQ2B3M/TuZXV3MhjqI/AAAAAAABCMs/boOqJra91FU/MALEMA%252520JULIUS%252520ZOGENAAMD%252520AFGEDANKT%252520ALS%252520ANC%252520JEUGDLIGA%252520PRESIDENT%252520AGEERT%252520NOG%252520STEEDS%252520TEGEN%252520BOEREN%252520DEC122011%25255B7%25255D.jpg

http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/48/F9CCA12EA3904C2BC4E9E351B026.jpg

And our favorite dude with the incredibly long index finger back again for a second appearance:

http://static.dailymaverick.co.za/photos/cache/2011-04-17-malema-boduguards-706-410.jpg

Trent
December 8, 2012, 01:16 PM
If you do an image search for "President Julius Malema security detail" and wade through the mountain of images out there, occasionally you'll find some of his security detail.

EVERY picture I've seen shows them all with sharply, and properly, indexed trigger fingers.

Those guys look pretty well trained. One quick OODA loop away from .. well, blowing someone away.

The big question is with the stock folded on that side, how quickly will the be able to flip the safety lever down to actually USE those weapons.


:)

Apachedriver
December 8, 2012, 01:25 PM
The big question is with the stock folded on that side, how quickly will the be able to flip the safety lever down to actually USE those weapons.


Look at the pictures closer and you'll see how they get around that little detail.

coloradokevin
December 8, 2012, 01:33 PM
I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread? So, some guy is holding a rifle with his finger properly off of the trigger and out of the trigger guard, and this is said to be something special? Is it special because he has a stupid look on his face?

We train our 21-year-old recruit officers to do the very same thing before they ever pick up a firearm on our range at work; then we drill that into them until they don't forget it on the range. 18-year-old military grunts learn the same thing in boot camp.

Anyone with any type of reasonably professional formal firearms training knows to handle their guns like this.

Trueno
December 8, 2012, 05:12 PM
I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread? So, some guy is holding a rifle with his finger properly off of the trigger and out of the trigger guard, and this is said to be something special? Is it special because he has a stupid look on his face?

We train our 21-year-old recruit officers to do the very same thing before they ever pick up a firearm on our range at work; then we drill that into them until they don't forget it on the range. 18-year-old military grunts learn the same thing in boot camp.

Anyone with any type of reasonably professional formal firearms training knows to handle their guns like this.










Feel better now?







Look on his face isn't stupid, he looks like he saw a ghost. Did you have a point?

t

Hapworth
December 8, 2012, 06:06 PM
Feel better now?


Look on his face isn't stupid, he looks like he saw a ghost. Did you have a point?

tI think his point was your original post wasn't clear regarding whether you were being sincere or ironic about the trigger control. That's all.

Now go have a friend take your picture while you yell at them, "Get away from the car!" as loud as you can. Repeat it several times. Mean it. And make sure they increase the camera's frame advance to highest setting so they're getting about thirty shots a second.

Then take a look. There'll be a shot or two where you look like you saw a ghost, even though that isn't how you were feeling.

ChCx2744
December 9, 2012, 12:21 AM
I was wondering how you would load the gun if the stock folded on the same side as the charging handle, but now I see that the stock folds under the handle so the clearance is there.

coloradokevin
December 9, 2012, 12:27 AM
Feel better now?







Look on his face isn't stupid, he looks like he saw a ghost. Did you have a point?

t


Okay, I'll play.

Is this really a gun related thread just because someone holding a gun had a stupid look on his face? And, as someone already pointed out, it wasn't quite clear if you were trying to make a sincere point about this guy properly indexing his weapon, or simply posting a picture of a guy with a ridiculously stupid look on his face.

Anyway, that's all. He looks ridiculous. I get it now. Carry on.

Texan Scott
December 9, 2012, 05:44 AM
Okay, I'll play too.

Colorado Kevin, you'll notice that most of the people here are so dreadfully and fiercely interested in the exact nature of the galil variant and its professional mode of employ that they are utterly blind to thinly veiled racial humor.

That, or they're trying mightily to prevent a few people from making any more tasteless jokes about how comical and/ or mentally deficient they believe the original subject, and anyone who shares his color, to be. Personally, I lost it at "I wonder if these two are related".

These things happen from time to time, even on THR. I'm sure it presents a marvelous impression of us as a group to outsiders. Maybe next time, they could make fun of Asians or Arabs or something, just to break out of the rut. That would be hilarious.

OK, I said it. I'm done now. Continue.

armarsh
December 9, 2012, 08:55 AM
Okay, I'll play too.

Colorado Kevin, you'll notice that most of the people here are so dreadfully and fiercely interested in the exact nature of the galil variant and its professional mode of employ that they are utterly blind to thinly veiled racial humor.

That, or they're trying mightily to prevent a few people from making any more tasteless jokes about how comical and/ or mentally deficient they believe the original subject, and anyone who shares his color, to be. Personally, I lost it at "I wonder if these two are related".

These things happen from time to time, even on THR. I'm sure it presents a marvelous impression of us as a group to outsiders. Maybe next time, they could make fun of Asians or Arabs or something, just to break out of the rut. That would be hilarious.

OK, I said it. I'm done now. Continue.

I guess I'm too thick to pick up the racist theme. I think we all realize that the camera's shutter can be very unkind. Are you trying to say no one would post the photo and start the same thread if the bodyguard was white? I have a hard time believing that.

Apachedriver
December 9, 2012, 09:03 AM
Sooooo, in the picture you can see the safety is in the down position while they're standing guard. That's all set to fire correct? I can't remember on an AK.

Certaindeaf
December 9, 2012, 09:31 AM
Maybe the camera looked like a grenade?
:D:D:D:D:D
Maybe that's why the SS wears sunglasses. Yep, he's awesome.

Al Thompson
December 9, 2012, 09:57 AM
Looks like we are done here. :scrutiny:

Apache, yes, up for safe, down for fire.

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