Does the Glock 19 336 ejector actually works?


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Glockedout17
December 4, 2012, 08:06 PM
I've been reading alot of threads on the late Gen 3 Glocks having ejector problems. From what a few people posted, it seems that the problem is coming from the factory stock ejector stamped 336. The main problem is BTF (brass to face), where the spent casing comes flying back towards your face. Alot of people posted that maybe 3 out of every 15 rounds would come flying back to their face. No one mentioned any failures to feed, some had a few stovepipes due to cheap ammo, no double feeds, and no failure to eject, except for the sperratic spent casings being throwed everywhere.

What I want to know is this:
.Does the ejector cause any malfunctions in the gun itself, besides the BTF issue?

.Does anyone have a Glock with the 336 ejector that's running flawless?

.In a self defense situation would the BTF issue really bother you? Personally, I wouldn't care where the brass is flying, as long as my firearm is sending lead down range.

I just got my first Glock 19 Gen 3 (used) and it has the 336 ejector. I haven't shot it yet, but I've been doing alot of research. When I read about the problem it sort of bothered me, but I haven't seen anyone talk about any serious malfunctions, so if the ejector is the only problem, I guess I'll just live with it.

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Unka-Boo
December 4, 2012, 08:14 PM
Ok....I had to go look at mine....I have a "336" and have shot roughly 1K through it, never had a problem with brass in the face....news to me.

That's the problem with the internet....everything's a problem, until it's not. Go shoot it and see what happens.

351 WINCHESTER
December 4, 2012, 08:28 PM
I had a late gen 3 19 with a 336. I sent it back to glock twice before they replaced the ejector with a 30274 ejector. I think they also replaced the extractor, but they would not confirm/deny it.
Since I got it back I have run about a thousand rounds without a single piece of brass to my face and no more stovepipes.

I would shoot it before sending it back. It may work just fine. Not all were "defective".

jfrey
December 4, 2012, 09:26 PM
It seems that the problem is in guns manufactured since about 2010. My son has an older G19 with the 336 ejector that runs fine. Mine is a 2010 model and had to replace mine with the new one. Now I get one in the face every 50 to 75 rounds instead of every mag. Try it to see if you have any problems first. If you do, see if you can find a local armorer and he can replace it in about 5 minutes. It isn't rocket science and you aren't without your gun for weeks.

The problem started in the Gen 4 models and then people with Gen 3 19s started complaining so they finally got the replacement ejectors for them too.

9mmepiphany
December 5, 2012, 01:06 AM
It isn't an ejector problem as much as an extractor and ejection port problem. The thing is not every Gen3 and Gen4 9mm Glock has the problem and it commonly doesn't start until you have 1000+ rounds through the gun...but once it starts it is difficult to fix, because Glock doesn't acknowledge it as a problem.

The good news is that it is limited pretty much to the 9mm models.

I have 3 shooting buddies who all have experienced the BTF ( 2 Gen3 and 1 Gen4). The best luck one has had, is on the second trip back to Glock, they are replacing his gun...now he just has to come up with a new DROS fee.

How big a problem BTF is depends on how you feel about getting a hot piece of brass caught in your glasses, down your shirt or in your eye

Glockedout17
December 5, 2012, 11:47 AM
I guess every firearms manufacturer has their issues. You always find out about them after you've already acquired the gun, smh. The Gen 4 trigger housing is pretty cheap and they have the new ejectors on them, so I'll get one of those just in case it's needed.

Ironman
December 5, 2012, 12:16 PM
Order stock gen4 G19 trigger housing and then pull the stock ejector with pliers and transfer over to your gen3 triggerhousing. Thats all glock does......

I just did a video on it. It worked.

ku4hx
December 5, 2012, 01:34 PM
The 336 works without issue in my models 17, 26 and both 19s. I did replace the one on the Gen4 19 because it was $8, easy to do and I wanted a spare anyway. Records show I've got almost 14,000 rounds through the G17, approaching 5,000 on my Gen4 19 and about the same through the G26. My daughter has the Gen3 19 and I don't know about its round count but she's never complained.

I own a number of pistols and none of them have ever plopped spent cases in a small pile. In fact, I've never seen one that did. Not saying' it doesn't happen, just I never noticed it. Comes time to pick up spent brass and those of us shooting auto loaders at my gun club always get in a conversation about which empties belong to who. Lordy we all do wish we could put a cardboard box "over there" to corral them.

Over the last 50+ years of shooting I've had all sort of semi autos put all sorts of brass all sorts of places: over my head, in my face, out front, to the right far away, to the right close and etc. As far as I'm concerned, brass all over the place is just the nature of the beast. I wear a Panama hat when I shoot now and have even caught a few on the brim and on the top.

HOOfan_1
December 5, 2012, 01:40 PM
Glock 19 Gen 3 with 336 ejector here. 1,800 rounds through it and don't have that problem.

Glockedout17
December 5, 2012, 03:32 PM
The 336 works without issue in my models 17, 26 and both 19s. I did replace the one on the Gen4 19 because it was $8, easy to do and I wanted a spare anyway. Records show I've got almost 14,000 rounds through the G17, approaching 5,000 on my Gen4 19 and about the same through the G26. My daughter has the Gen3 19 and I don't know about its round count but she's never complained.

I own a number of pistols and none of them have ever plopped spent cases in a small pile. In fact, I've never seen one that did. Not saying' it doesn't happen, just I never noticed it. Comes time to pick up spent brass and those of us shooting auto loaders at my gun club always get in a conversation about which empties belong to who. Lordy we all do wish we could put a cardboard box "over there" to corral them.

Over the last 50+ years of shooting I've had all sort of semi autos put all sorts of brass all sorts of places: over my head, in my face, out front, to the right far away, to the right close and etc. As far as I'm concerned, brass all over the place is just the nature of the beast. I wear a Panama hat when I shoot now and have even caught a few on the brim and on the top.
Very well put. People just seem to make a big deal out of everything especially when it comes to guns. Like I stated before, my spent casings will be a non issue to me in a gun fight. If the gun is throwing lead where I want it to go, then there is no real malfunction.

Hoofan 1, what three letters does your serial number start with?

HOOfan_1
December 5, 2012, 03:54 PM
Hoofan 1, what three letters does your serial number start with?

Have to get back to you on that one when I get home. I think "RML" but not 100% sure

351 WINCHESTER
December 5, 2012, 04:20 PM
RXS and it was a lemon.

Ben86
December 5, 2012, 04:22 PM
My Gen3 G19 has a 336 ejector and it works just fine. Granted it only has about 500 rounds through it, but it ejects brass in a neat pile to my right, about 2 yards away.

Just shoot the thing and don't worry about it unless it actually happens.

CTGunner
December 5, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mine went back and they fixed the issue in about 2 weeks. I didn't like the casings hitting me in the face. For me it was a real issue and not something worth accepting in a defensive pistol. Luckily glock handled the issue with great customer service.

Glockedout17
December 5, 2012, 07:05 PM
RXS and it was a lemon.
I heard it started with the P's and up, 2010 - present like jfrey mentioned above. Mine begins with PUS, but hopefully it's not one of the lemons.

Ben86, its not that I'm worried, it's just annoying finding out about stuff after you've already acquired the gun.

Hopefully, that's not the reason why the previous owner traded it. Like I said, if BTF is the only issue, it's not an issue to me at all. I was just wondering if it makes the gun malfunction in anyother way.

Ironman
December 5, 2012, 07:13 PM
Everyone with a Gen3 and 336 ejector without issues is missing the point. lol.

If your pistol is fine I bet it's a pre 2009 before the extractor change. The transitional Gen3's from 2009-current need the new ejector to work and sometimes a replacement extractor as well.

MikeJackmin
December 5, 2012, 07:20 PM
Personally, I would not tolerate a defensive gun throwing brass in my face. It might not be a problem when you are on the range and wearing shooting glasses, but on the street without eye protection it's a real hazard.

HOOfan_1
December 5, 2012, 07:59 PM
If your pistol is fine I bet it's a pre 2009 before the extractor change. The transitional Gen3's from 2009-current need the new ejector to work and sometimes a replacement extractor as well.

Nope...mine is an "RML" The package the test brass came in says tested May 2011

Unka-Boo
December 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
Everyone with a Gen3 and 336 ejector without issues is missing the point. lol.

If your pistol is fine I bet it's a pre 2009 before the extractor change. The transitional Gen3's from 2009-current need the new ejector to work and sometimes a replacement extractor as well.
Not really.....the OP stated he hasn't even shot his....how does he know he has a problem before he uses it? It's all conjecture until then....

Glockedout17
December 6, 2012, 02:22 PM
Not really.....the OP stated he hasn't even shot his....how does he know he has a problem before he uses it? It's all conjecture until then....
It's just something that I read and wanted to learn more about. I will be heading to the range as soon as my hybrid holster arrives, so that I can practice drawing.

C0untZer0
December 6, 2012, 03:21 PM
I have a Gen 3 17L made in 2011, I don't have 1000 rounds through it - I have the dipped extractor and the 336 ejector.

I was firing an HK USP a while back and a case barely brushed my right ear - I just never thought to make a big deal about it.

Girodin
December 6, 2012, 10:56 PM
I looked at my G26 because I was cleaning and lubing it last night. It has 336 on the side. I have put more than 1K of rounds through it and I'm the second owner. I've never hand an issue.

I didn't check my G19 to see whats inside. I have never had an issue with it either.

ku4hx
December 7, 2012, 08:17 AM
Everyone with a Gen3 and 336 ejector without issues is missing the point. lol.

If your pistol is fine I bet it's a pre 2009 before the extractor change. The transitional Gen3's from 2009-current need the new ejector to work and sometimes a replacement extractor as well.
Bought my Gen3 26 in either late 2011 or early 2012; CRS disease and all that. Guess I was just lucky.

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