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marine 97-03
December 5, 2012, 05:57 AM
Hi guys so can I find a 1911 5 inch with beaver tail and 3 dot sights for under 700$ would the pt1911 be a good start ???? What do you suggest .

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Solo
December 5, 2012, 06:04 AM
Rock Island Tactical 1911s

Ehtereon11B
December 5, 2012, 06:44 AM
Para Ordnance make some pretty good 1911s for 6-700 range.

bannockburn
December 5, 2012, 07:03 AM
RIA Tactical. Currently out of stock at Buds but shows a price of $445 whenever they do have it. They also have a Tactical Rail model that's available for $631.

TAKtical
December 5, 2012, 07:10 AM
Rock island @Centerfiresystems

OilyPablo
December 5, 2012, 07:54 AM
Nothing wrong with a RIA.

USA made Ruger SR1911 would be (and is) my choice.

ponchsox
December 5, 2012, 08:19 AM
Ruger SR1911

WoodchuckAssassin
December 5, 2012, 08:25 AM
Is there an echo in here?

SR1911. You can probably find one for around $650 - that's what I got mine for. RIA also makes a fine budget 1911...though I've never owned one. The SR1911 is my everywhere1911 - on the nightstand or in a chair, I take my Ruger everywhere.

marine 97-03
December 5, 2012, 09:33 AM
What about the PT1911...seems to have a ton of features ,,, isn't RIA. ATI, and Metro arms all made in the PI ...some in the same plants as the other ones juts stamped with different names?

mljdeckard
December 5, 2012, 12:16 PM
I would look at the Ruger or the STI SPartan. I currently carry a Kimber Custom II, but I think it's just out of the given price range.

tuj
December 5, 2012, 07:25 PM
STI Spartan easy. I love mine and it compares fairly favorably with my Les Baer as well.

Upstater
December 5, 2012, 09:52 PM
Nothing wrong with a pt1911, I had one once, nice front and backstrap checkering, slide serrations, and my favorite, skeletonized trigger, this gun never failed me, just traded to a Kimber custom II.

Lizard1911
December 5, 2012, 10:33 PM
MetroArms / Bersa
Lovin' mine.

orionengnr
December 5, 2012, 11:28 PM
I would advise staying as far away from Taurus as possible. I am also not big on the Remington R1 or any of the Filipino manufactured 1911s. (And yes, I have owned one.)

I would make an exception for the RIA Spartan. The parts are manufactured in the Philipines, but final fitting and assembly is performed by people who know what they are doing.

The Ruger 1911 is another good choice, especially if you like a stainless 1911.

If you know what you are looking for, you can find a higher end used 1911 at a bargain price. But that might take a while to learn the ins-and-outs....

smalls
December 5, 2012, 11:36 PM
STI Spartan easy. I love mine and it compares fairly favorably with my Les Baer as well.

I love my Spartan, too. But it doesn't meet his requirement of 3 got sights. He'd easily go over $700 buying new sights.

OP, I've heard some good reviews of the PT1911, but beware of their customer service should you need it. For that reason alone I would choose the RIA, or Ruger. Or the Spartan if you can live with/afford to switch out the sights.

Panzercat
December 5, 2012, 11:57 PM
RIA 1911 in 10mm. (http://www.slickguns.com/product/rock-island-armory-r1-1911-10mm-5-barrel-8-rounds-scaled-vz-g10-grips-parkerized-599)
Well, your fault for not specifying :)

powwowell
December 6, 2012, 12:01 AM
Colt! Commander size suits me. For under $700, it would have to be used.

marine 97-03
December 6, 2012, 12:44 AM
Just seen a Girsan MC 1911......WOW..

MachIVshooter
December 6, 2012, 12:51 AM
RIA 1911 in 10mm.
Well, your fault for not specifying

That looks like a darn nice gun for $600!

Skylerbone
December 6, 2012, 03:50 AM
Here we go again! My choice in your price range hands down would be the STI Spartan as well. Now to correct what's been said:

STI is an American (USA) company and manufacturer of 1911s and 2011s. The Spartan's slide and frame are manufactured by Armscor in the Phillipines to STI's specs. STI ships the internals to Armscor where they are fitted, again to STI's specs. by a group of Armscor employees who have been trained by STI.

Now I respect your budget but I don't care at all for 3-dot sights. A link to the Spartan: http://www.brazoscustom.com/sti_guns/sti_spartan.htm

marine 97-03
December 6, 2012, 03:59 AM
Can I get it with 3 dot sights?

Skylerbone
December 6, 2012, 04:28 AM
I used to just black out the rear dots on Novaks. Now I've taken to replacing them altogether. Faster without them and every bit as accurate when I tried it.

As it was explained to me (roughly): the brain attempts to interpret what it sees. Training tells you the top edge of the front and rear sight must be aligned and used for aiming. Center the front post in the rear notch and that's that. But those three dots keep drawing your attention as the brain seeks meaning and alignment which of course distracts you from what needs aligned and furthermore from the front sight where you must focus.

marine 97-03
December 6, 2012, 04:40 AM
They got a SS Spartan ?

Jed Carter
December 6, 2012, 05:58 AM
I've shot the Taurus PT1911, 9mm and .45, great pistol for the money, real Novak sights too. I thought the STI Spartan came with STI Bomar style adjustable sights. For just over the $700 price I would go with a SIG like this one http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/50939

smalls
December 6, 2012, 09:36 AM
Can I get it with 3 dot sights?

Only if you buy aftermarket.

Thet got a SS Spartan ?

Parkarized only.

Hapworth
December 6, 2012, 09:54 AM
For your stated preferences in your price range, new, in no particular order:

STI Spartan
RIA Tactical
Ruger SR1911

These are by far your top choices. Buying used completely changes the scenario.

I know some people like the Taurus but after much research I encountered a preponderance of complaints, enough to put me off.

As for the Girsan -- at that price point I'd definitely go with the much more well-established RIA.

Read this, it's interesting and informative -- plus you get to look at a bunch of cool 1911s:

http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?511-Buyer-s-guide-for-all-you-1911-addicts...

Lastly, 1911s for about $700 gets discussed a lot; run a search and you'll find plenty more info.

CommanderCrusty
December 6, 2012, 10:44 AM
ParaOrdnance (http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1952&cid=19)or Remington R1 (http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/remington-r1-review/).

Skylerbone
December 6, 2012, 10:55 AM
You cannot get them, as smalls said, in stainless steel or cherry red.
Not with 3-dots, or with two, there are others, that is true.
I like the Ruger quite a lot, but where to find one? Hard to spot.
Owners like them, sure enough, but where to buy one has been tough.

If you like stainless, what to do? Then Ceracoat it, good as new.
Or find that Ruger, if you care. Check the PX or a local gun fair.
With 3-dot sights and stainless steel, priced just right, one heck of a deal.
Either one might be for you, personally I like my guns blue.

marine 97-03
December 6, 2012, 02:41 PM
There's been some tigers floating around on armslist.com might check there

g_one
December 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
PT1911's are sort of like gambling. If you get a good one, you'll never have any problems with it and you'll be completely clueless as to why so many people hate on Taurus. Or, if you get a lemon, you'll either sell it or nickel and dime your way to basically purchasing a new gun.

Ala Dan
December 6, 2012, 05:22 PM
Ruger SR1911~!

marine 97-03
December 7, 2012, 12:14 AM
The RIA tactical has gotten a little hard to find it seems

Skylerbone
December 7, 2012, 12:33 AM
Guys are snatching up the RIAs. Buy the $450 1911 then replace the slide stop, thumb safety, grip safety, trigger, hammer, sear and disco. Put some new stocks on it, buy an EGW bushing, maybe a Kart EZ-Fit barrel, new sights and call it a day. Love hearing how it's $200 cheaper than the Spartan (filled with premium parts), just good economic sense!

Regardless of what you choose brand wise try to find one that has every last feature you want. Replacement parts can get expensive quick.

Sorry 'bout the Green Eggs and Hammin it up post earlier, cold medication and me don't really mix.

marine 97-03
December 7, 2012, 01:55 AM
Its all good skyler...I have always enjoyed reading your post. ... keep bringing it brother

marine 97-03
December 7, 2012, 03:38 AM
Ok ..things are changing ..... I was going to buy an AR and a 1911.... my budget is 1600$ the m&p sport was the ar I was getting ....but I may just buy pistols...so 2 1911's like a sr1911 and the Spartan ......now the fun begins. :)

CZ223
December 7, 2012, 06:00 AM
a bunch of 1911's and still do. I have owned sevral springfields, Colts, Rock Islands, Taurus, Kimbers and even the Ruger. I sold all my Springfields and Colts. I still have Several Kimbers, a couple Of RIA's, the Ruger and 2 Taurus PT1911's. The Taurus guns are a great deal and they shoot great. Mine are the duo-tone version so they also look great. If I could carrya 5 inch gun it would probably be the Taurus. The Ruger is also a good choice. I like the Rocks but have had minor problems with both of mine.

Hapworth
December 7, 2012, 08:05 AM
Ok ..things are changing ..... I was going to buy an AR and a 1911.... my budget is 1600$ the m&p sport was the ar I was getting ....but I may just buy pistols...so 2 1911's like a sr1911 and the Spartan ......now the fun begins. :)
Why not just increase your single 1911 budget to $1600? I don't see the logic in purchasing two entry-levels.

New, stainless finish Dan Wesson Valor.

marine 97-03
December 7, 2012, 10:16 AM
Why not just increase your single 1911 budget to $1600? I don't see the logic in purchasing two entry-levels.

New, stainless finish Dan Wesson Valor.


Its just me....I would rather have 2 damn SOLID guns than one ubber expensive one ...they will fill there roll in my house or on my side as good as any.....and theres money left for other goodies, ammo,mags,holsters. And maybe enough for some other 1911 like a Regent or ATI.

Hapworth
December 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
Its just me....I would rather have 2 damn SOLID guns than one ubber expensive one ...they will fill there roll in my house or on my side as good as any.....and theres money left for other goodies, ammo,mags,holsters. And maybe enough for some other 1911 like a Regent or ATI.
Gotcha. Back to original suggestions, then. Enjoy. :)

kerreckt
December 7, 2012, 10:36 AM
Norinco model 1911 if, you can find one. I bought on that was LNIB ($400 about 1 year ago) and it is a very good 1911. Say what you want about being Chinese but you can't deny it is of excellent quality and true mil-spec except nicer sights and the grip screws are metric.

marine 97-03
December 8, 2012, 02:22 PM
anybody know anything about citidel 1911 or girsan?

Skylerbone
December 8, 2012, 05:06 PM
Shot the Citadel. Slightly more expensive copy of the RIA. Buddy owns the one I fired, currently in pieces while he carefully dehorns all necessary parts. He's probably got 3,000+ through it but shelved it awhile after buying a TRP.

Believe the Girsan is Turkish, haven't seen one yet.

cuba
December 9, 2012, 01:00 AM
While you'll probably get a lot of PT1911 haters chiming in I'm not one of those, I've had my stainless PT1911 since 2008 and to date have over 19K rounds through it with out any uncommon 1911 failures being mostly ammo related, I have kept all the original fire control parts which are made through a MIM process which some detest, but in intervals of about every 3K rounds I strip the 1911 down and inspect all the parts under magnification and I haven't found any excessive wear on the parts, though my PT1911 did suffer the infamous ambi-thumb safety failure for which Taurus sent me a replacement safety within a 5 day period, my experience with their customer service has been positive and prompt, I can honestly recommend the PT1911 and would not hesitate to buy another one, I believe that the PT1911 offers the most bag for your buck in the industry, good luck to you.
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/Cuba1911/DSC00001.jpg

shoot safe, shoot straight, and have fun

marine 97-03
December 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
I like the stainless look...RIA doesn't offer a stainless do they....do any of the phillipino guns come in stainless ?

cuba
December 10, 2012, 01:34 AM
The closest to stainless that Amscor produces their 1911 is in nickel.

shoot safe, shoot straight, and have fun

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