1858 Sale at Cabelas


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ozarkguy
December 6, 2012, 09:18 AM
Just noticed this morning that Cabelas has their 1858 Remingtons in both barrel lengths on sale for $169.99 with free shipping. Have never seen them lower. The 1860 Army is back to regular price.

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Fiv3r
December 6, 2012, 04:11 PM
Cabela's certainly knows how to toy with my emotions:evil: I'm having a hard time deciding: Do I jump which ever model of the "Big Two" is on sale? I need an 1860. Such an elegant weapon. However as they never seem to have a shorter version of the open top colts short of the very expensive Marshal model, I have been hankering for a 5.5" Remington as it would be more packable and would take the same cylinders I have for my full size '58.

OR do I follow the plan I have had for a couple of years and snag a Walker? I just hope my family comes through on the gift cards I asked for for Christmas:neener:

Busyhands94
December 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
Now that's a very nice price right there! :D

Lunie
December 6, 2012, 07:27 PM
Now that's a very nice price right there! :D
Now would be the time to get your 5.5"...

arcticap
December 7, 2012, 01:42 AM
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble over buying a Remmy at the lowest sale price in recent memory, but I was sorely disappointed with the trigger quality of the 5.5" Sheriff models that were in stock today at my local Cabela's store. I was disappointed because none were good enough to buy, and I had gone there it buy several of them.
I called the store first and was told that they just got in a fresh batch of Remmy's which included a dozen or more .44 Sheriff models.
I went there and the first 5.5" that I held was already unwrapped from being previously inspected, and I turned it down for being terribly unacceptable.
No problem. The clerk opens another box, unwraps the new gun and the same thing. The trigger is mushy with slack, without a crisp or predictable release. I apologized and refused it.
So then the clerk opens another box and unwraps the new gun and hands it to me. Same thing, a trigger that's spongy, mushy or having a pull with a lot of slack or grit. I apologized again and said, this isn't working out, that trigger is just as bad as the other two. The clerk says well, they're all the same, they're only $200 dollar guns. And I told him that I didn't think that I wanted to even look at another one because I didn't want to waste his time.

The clerk was aware that I was interested in more than one gun, so he said that he didn't mind opening up another box. So I said okay, and he hands me the 4th gun and for a second I was slightly optimistic. But that optimism quickly faded as the trigger was barely any better than the other 3 guns. I had to cock it twice just to be sure, but by then I was positive that I would be unhappy and that it would be a waste of money and time to proceed any further.
I again told "Tim", the clerk, how sorry I was to not make a purchase, and that I was going back to the Gun Library instead.
I spoke to another clerk on my way over there and let him know how bad the triggers were on the new batch of guns that came in. And he said to me that Pietta's were not what they once were. I don't know if he had a reason for saying that or if he was just trying to be sympathetic.
But I suspect that Cabela's received a bunch of guns that they know may have quality control issues. And now are having fire sale prices to move them out the door as Christmas presents which folks tend to not complain about the quality of.
It's happened before with a batch of stainless Sheriff models that had bent and defective latch posts installed. Many were installed crooked and had obvious fitting problems. Yet Pietta sent them through to Cabela's anyway. And I can't recall seeing many stainless 1858 Sheriff models for sale at all ever since.
So I believe that it does and can happen. Pietta's employees may not be taking the effort to make the triggers fit acceptably, or the trigger parts are not up to specifications. I can at least say that the ones that I tried weren't acceptable to me. And I would expect that at least 1/2 of the triggers would be okay. But instead, all of the triggers that I tried were only 1/2 okay. That's 1/2 of a trigger less than I would expect.
I hope that folks understand the reason for my disappointment. I'm not going to purchase a gun that I need to have trigger work performed on in order to enjoy shooting it. Especially when I know that finding a good trigger is possible for the same price and that the model isn't in short supply.
Cabela's sells Heritage Rough Rider .22 single action revolvers for $129. I've owned one for years. And even though the trigger pull may not be very light, it's release is crisp enough to be perfectly acceptable enough to enjoy shooting it. Just because a revolver costs less than $200, doesn't mean that it can't have an acceptable trigger. But somehow Pietta can't manage to produce a clean breaking trigger. I'll bet that even most toy cap guns have better triggers than what I saw today.
Perhaps the 8 inch Remmy models are better, but I didn't check any of them today and now I'm doubtful.
Perhaps the .36 Sheriffs are better. They rarely go on sale for the same low prices as either of the base model .44's. Maybe I will look into one of them the next time that they have a special sale on them.
I figure that it must be either a bad batch of parts, an untrained group of employees, or Pietta management is skipping a step in the production process so that the triggers simply don't get fitted, as if to speed up production.
Maybe the Traditions guns have a different set of standards than Cabela's because of simply being a different production run.
I really don't know other than Pietta's trigger quality seems to be totally hit and miss.
I'm going on about it because I spent most my day there at Cabela's for the express purpose of picking up some .44 Sheriffs.
And I ended up buying a center fire pistol that was totally unrelated to why I went there, and which led me to spend even more time there waiting for the paperwork process to be completed. So while the Sheriffs were a draw that brought me into the store. I doubt that I will be spending much more time looking at that new batch of Sheriffs that they got in. Right now I don't care what the sale price is. I wasted my time by looking at a bunch of junk triggers when I could have gone to the shooting range instead.

towboat_er
December 7, 2012, 01:56 AM
I've had good results buying from cabelas.

arcticap
December 7, 2012, 02:05 AM
I've had good results buying at Cabela's too.
That's why I go there and try to select guns in person.
But sometimes the guns have quality issues.
At least I found another gun that was worth spending the money on. :rolleyes:

Hammerdown77
December 7, 2012, 12:50 PM
The 1860 I bought from Cabela's earlier this year had a light, "mushy" trigger (lots of creep). I messes with the angle of the sear nose a bit (with a spare trigger at hand, in case I chuffed it), and that seemed to help. Sounds like all the guns you looked at had a similar sear/hammer interface to the 1860 I got.

1KPerDay
December 7, 2012, 12:54 PM
Now they're just screwing with me. :rolleyes:

Picked up my 1860 last night... beautiful. purpley-blue-gold case hardening. Action doesn't feel as good as my first one, but it looks better.

raa-7
December 7, 2012, 03:30 PM
That's probably the cheapest we'll ever see that model on sale for.And with the free shipping you cant beat that.I bought mine for 199.00 and got the free shipping a while back and thought that was pretty good and I got a great revolver,but really you have to question such a low price.

Busyhands94
December 7, 2012, 03:37 PM
I'm gonna go to the flea market on Sunday to sell some stuff, if I can make enough I'm buying a 5.5" Remmy or a Colt Army. Something cap and ball!

Malachi Leviticus Blue
December 7, 2012, 08:12 PM
I put a 5.5" Rem on order. It is almost impossible not to with FREE shipping and dumping the Cabela's points towards it. I hope I have better luck than arcticap, but If not I could flip it for a profit anyway down the road.

jason41987
December 7, 2012, 08:53 PM
aah... here we go again, just bought an 1860, looks like im getting an 1858 too (i actually like the remington design more)

towboat_er
December 7, 2012, 10:09 PM
After Cabelas points. I paid $148.00

jmfc606
December 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
I ordered one, then I saw the Spiller & Burr .36cal Brassy was on sale too ($20 off) I got one of those too! Cap & Ball guns are addictive!

towboat_er
December 13, 2012, 01:00 AM
The brown truck delivered.

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Malachi Leviticus Blue
December 13, 2012, 07:28 AM
They were "In Stock" when I called in my order, but got an Email Yesterday that it was back-ordered. I don't care about waiting, but maybe this means I'll end up with an extra nice one. We will see.

kbbailey
December 13, 2012, 08:55 AM
This is a golden opportunity to get a great gun at a great price.

ozarkguy
December 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
Just saw this morning that the 58 Remmy is back to its' normal price but now they have the 51 Navy on sale for $179.99 and the Walker on for $339.99. They are determined to get ALL of our money!

Kaeto
December 13, 2012, 10:21 AM
Sales over.

Fiv3r
December 13, 2012, 11:39 AM
Just saw this morning that the 58 Remmy is back to its' normal price but now they have the 51 Navy on sale for $179.99 and the Walker on for $339.99. They are determined to get ALL of our money!
A walker for $339! Wowza, they might have mad up my mind for me if they hang at that price through Chistmas. $100 worth of points and cards now, hopefully about $150 or so in cards from the family, and a little Christmas bonus should put my cost under 50 bucks with tax:eek:

EljaySL
December 13, 2012, 03:29 PM
They've been rotating which revolvers have been on sale every few days. If you want it, don't wait.

Fiv3r
December 13, 2012, 05:45 PM
Well the 1851 Navy is on my short list as it is. I think I'll see how this plays out through the holiday. The whole point of asking for gift cards is to not be out much money for a new "toy":evil:

So, my thinking is, Walker if it's still on sale. Gussied up Marshal for $399 if I hit the mother load of gift cards. Or fall back on the ol' '51 Navy since it's going to be at that price through the end of the year. The good news is that I should have enough cash left over to get a box of .36 swagged balls and a mold (I only have a .454 mold currently).

Indian Outlaw
December 18, 2012, 08:56 PM
The Rem sale was still going in Hamburg, PA on the 15th. I bought one of their last two 8-inchers. The 5.5s were gone. I can't complain about the trigger on a 169.99 gun. I mean, I expect Italian guns to have little issues. I've yet to see a perfect one, end to end.

FiveStrings
December 18, 2012, 10:58 PM
Don't forget that the Remingtons have a set screw that affects the tension of the main spring and can be adjusted for more or less "mushiness" in the trigger pull. I would want to check that out before I determined that the gun was defective.

arcticap
December 19, 2012, 12:26 AM
Perhaps, but that would mainly affect the tension on the hammer which adjusting would help to strike the caps harder or softer.
Whereas the fitting and the feel of the sear and the amount and quality of the trigger travel is what I was disappointed about.
Some sears fit better and feel crisp when released, while others are poorly fit which causes the trigger to have slack and feel gritty before releasing.
Individual triggers can all have a different fit but if the part is not carefully fitted then the chances are that it won't fit well enough to function as a crisp trigger.
It's not allowed to adjust the main spring tension screw on a brand new gun during a casual inspection inside the store.
If it's being shipped to own's home then sure, adjust the screw to see if it helps.
And some folks could probably improve their trigger quality with some careful fitting at home.
I think that the Pietta 1860 triggers that I tried the week before felt a lot better right out of the box than the Remingtons that I tried. 2 out 3 of those were good, with one having too much slack with extra long travel before releasing.

Malachi Leviticus Blue
January 3, 2013, 10:34 PM
was given an estimated ship date of 12/24 and today was told "unable to immediately fill your entire order" Boy I think they are working on picking out an exceptionally fine specimen for me...

black_powder_Rob
January 4, 2013, 12:58 AM
I hope you do get a really nice one. Wow it has been a while since I have shopped for BP guns saw this thread and went to the cabelas web site and man have prices jumped since the last time I ordered one from them.:what:

jmfc606
January 9, 2013, 06:33 PM
Mine came today! SO whoever ordered them at the end od December you should be seeing UPS soon!

Malachi Leviticus Blue
January 9, 2013, 09:20 PM
A Brown Truck showed up at my place today as well. It finally brought me a 5.5"

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