$100 and under hard use EDC folder help


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Noah
December 6, 2012, 11:12 PM
Hey! It's nigh approaching Christmas and I'm thinking about a new EDC knife, sort of a long term upgrade from my current Kershaw Tremor. No real issues with the Kershaw, but it is a $25 liner lock imported from China with no thumb studs. And I was never able to get the clip to reverse to tip up.

The knife will be used for all forms of cutting, from opening letters and boxes, cutting rope/string, to cutting up cardboard and wood. I do carry a knife all day, every day, so it has to be tough.

Since I can't carry a gun, or a fixed blade, this knife is also my "emergency tactical" blade, so strength and good retention ergonomics are my #1.

I get minimum wage, so I'd love to keep the price in the $35-65 range, but if it's amazing, I could pay $100 or so. I'd like to use this knife daily for many years.


Looking for a 3-4" blade, 8-9.5" overall. Grip size is more important to me than blade length. Assisted opening is a plus, but a very nice manual would work. Need a really strong lock, preferably not a liner lock- don't like how it un centers the blade in the knife and such. Tip up carry possible. Not a tanto, no serrations. A multi purpose cutter.

So what have you guys had good experiences with? Cold Steel Recon 1? SOG Aegis? SOG Trident? Is a Benchmade Barrage really worth $120? Or is that all relative? :P

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BullRunBear
December 6, 2012, 11:33 PM
Perhaps a Buck 110 folder. It comes with a belt sheath. Only downside might be the weight for pocket carry. I believe Amazon has them for about $30. They certainly have a reputation for toughness and reliability.

Jeff

Big_John1961
December 7, 2012, 12:03 AM
Kershaw Blur is pretty tough to beat, fast opening, well-built and definitely suited for hard use. Regular version around $65, S30V version can be had for $85 online. However, I like my Barrage also and I think it is worth the $120.

Valkman
December 7, 2012, 12:43 AM
Benchmades are worth the money. I don't have a Barrage but do recommend the Griptilian, which I have and love, or the Bone Collector which I have on order. I ordered it off of recommendations in this forum.

http://www.knifecenter.com/item/BM150201

http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/BM551BKSN/Benchmade-551BKSN-Griptilian-345-inch-Black-Drop-Point-Plain-Blade-Sand-Handles

JShirley
December 7, 2012, 07:36 AM
Spyderco Manix 2 ( http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/manix2c101gp2-plainedgecpm-s30vblade.aspx) or Manix 2 XL. Both large knives (the XL might be a touch longer blade than you want at 3.8"), sturdy locks, great steel. Bargains at about $79 and $85. Open smoothly and lock decisively.

John

rbernie
December 7, 2012, 07:46 AM
I carry the small Buck Vantage Pro (http://www.knifecenter.com/item/BU342BKS/Buck-Vantage-Pro-Small-2-58-inch-S30V-Blade-Black-G10-Handles) a lot. Decent steel, useful blade shape, flipper works well without risking it opening in the pocket, decisive locking (I like that phrase, John!), and can be carried tip-up. I carry the small version because I take the clip off and drop it into a rear trouser pocket to carry discreetly work. They also make a larger version that works well for clip carry, but doesn't disappear into a pocket as well.

The Force Pro (http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/BU0847ODS/Buck-847-Vantage-Force-Pro-Folding-3-14-inch-Plain-Stonewashed-S30V-Blade-Olive-Drab-G10-Handles) looks a little more 'tactical' and is a wee bit larger - it may be better suited to heavy daily use.

Manny
December 7, 2012, 08:08 AM
Benchmade 555 has been my edc for more than a year for use just as you describe. Opens extremely quick with the thumb hole and locks up SOLID. The blade is still sharp after a years use and the pocket clip is very sturdy and keeps the knife securly in my pocket. I paid about $85 for it and believe it was worth every penny and then some.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_sq_all?ie=UTF8&index=blended&keywords=benchmade%20555&pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00152RXH0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=073GJJJ7W89T8C0FZGEX

metalart
December 7, 2012, 09:17 AM
I am looking to get a Kershaw Junkyard Dog 2.2 , on amazon for around $65 looks like it will be a good, tough edc blade :) however, I do not believe the clip is reversible to carry point up.

Yo Mama
December 7, 2012, 09:22 AM
Another vote for the Spyderco Manix family! They are just rock solid.

DNS
December 7, 2012, 04:26 PM
I'm a Buck fan so I'd suggest the Vantage Pro also if you want a tactical.

I noticed that Wally has the large Bantam in orange or fall camo for $20 this Christmas season. Might just be the thing for someone on a tight budget. I occasionally carry the small Bantam and its a nifty little knife so I'm hoping that someone in the family picks up on the hints I've been dropping...

Elkins45
December 7, 2012, 04:41 PM
I'm not sure what "hard use" is, but I recommend an axe or crowbar for that. Or this...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/maul2.jpg

If you want a knife under $100 to cut stuff with the Spyderco Paramilitary 2 is my current favorite.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/253/spydercoparamilitary2im.jpg

AuthorityDenied
December 7, 2012, 06:09 PM
Any Cold Steel with a Tri ad lock will serve you well

meef
December 7, 2012, 06:34 PM
The Benchmade Adamas.

I know it's a bit higher priced than you were specifying, but it might well last you forever - and once you've handled one, you'll understand the meaning of true love.... :D

You have to ask them for a price. Which currently is $136.50 (but oh-so worth it!)

http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/BM275BKSN/Benchmade-275BKSN-Adamas-Folding-Knife-382-inch-Black-D2-Plain-Blade-Desert-Tan-G10-Handles

greyling22
December 7, 2012, 06:46 PM
under 100 bucks, closer to 50....... any number of things. I've been very impressed with the ganzo and enlan knives in the cheap bang for the buck category: esp the g704, g710, and enlan el-02b. they're a bit heavy (disassemble and grind out the middle of the liners helps a lot and the steel is nothing awesome, but the designs are solid {ganzo is benchmade copies} and they're cheap enough to almost be disposable)

kershaw makes a lot of good value blades. chill, skyline, cryo all appeal to me as edc blades. spyderco has the tenacious/persistance line that is pretty nice as well. The manix knives are way nice, super smooth and strong, but they are the size of a brick and weigh a ton. The ontario rat 1 is supposed to be real nice, but I have never handled one. there is always the crkt m16 line and the walmart version of the ripple.....

As far as non-chineese knives, I like the benhcmade griptillians. check ebay and see if you can find a used one.

haven't really seen anything in the sog, gerber, or cold steel offerings that I thought looked very interesting. But good luck.

dayhiker
December 7, 2012, 07:59 PM
I occasionally carry the small Bantam and its a nifty little knife so I'm hoping that someone in the family picks up on the hints I've been dropping...

I carry the medium Bantam mostly at work with a Leatherman Blast for the tools. What that poor knife has been through......

And it is still going. :eek:

Cocked & Locked
December 7, 2012, 08:30 PM
I'm not sure what "hard use" is, but I recommend an axe or crowbar for that. Or this...

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/maul2.jpg

SOTZ Monster Maul...I've got one of those 15 pound wood splitting mauls. Had it for many years and still use it. It will never wear out. :scrutiny:

stan rose
December 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
I have become a big fan of the knives from Great Eastern Cutlery. I know they are of traditional patterns, with out thumb studs or assisted opening but they are great knives.

billybobjoe
December 7, 2012, 09:18 PM
Good way to keep a sharp blade! Carry a Gerber EAB. It's a very handy money clip size. It can be used as a money clip, carried in the change pocket of you jeans, clipped to your waist band under your belt your belt, or any where. It takes contractor razor blades. Using a pocket knife every day I've never seen one that didn't dull. Put a good quality blade in an EAB. Why dull a good knife opening boxes and such. A contractor blade will cut the **** out of stuff. In five years it'll be sharp because all you have to do is put a new some blade in. I carry one in addition to knives I EDC. The older style has the screw on it's topside and is best for one hand opening. Even as a last ditch weapon. Hate to see even one slash from such a blade. I think they are about 24 bucks. Maybe you could even ebay one for 14.

The Highlander
December 8, 2012, 02:33 AM
Gotta second the Manix. I sniped a Manix 2 on ebay for $55 many months ago, and I've been edcing it every day since. Occasionally I'll rotate in a newer blade, but I consistently find myself returning to the Manix. It's just so comfortable in my hand and it takes anything I throw at it, be it opening packages, whittling wood, or cutting up a nice block of Jarlsberg or Smoked Gouda. I think I like the caged ball lock more than the axis, it's just so smooth and buttery. Zero blade play in any direction after beating on it for months. Edge retention is good enough. 154CM is great, but I think I'm going to splurge one of these days and get a CTS-XHP or M4 model.

conw
December 8, 2012, 08:53 AM
The Manix 2 looks great. I owned a Paramilitary 2 and will say it's a damn refined knife that you won't outgrow. The PM2 may be worth a few extra bucks you'd have to pay over the Manix 2. Not to knock the Manix at all but the PM2 is very "purty."

In the slightly smaller and WAY cheaper category you can look at the Spyderco Tenacious blue G10 limited edition run. I gave my dad the Ambitious in blue a while back and was VERY impressed.

It has a liner lock but honestly the concerns over locking mechanisms are overblown at least with good quality brands. Testing is done to ensure the lock suffices for the tasks a knife would be used for, and if you use a knife properly there is virtually zero chance it could actually close on your hand anyway.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/8/3/2/2/9/0/webimg/571746429_tp.jpg

You may be able to snag a Native 5 for right at $100. I think this is probably the best blend of "ultra tough" and "refined" and it really has incredible, unbelievable fit and finish and tough materials.

http://www.gpknives.com/images/spyderco/C41GP5-3[large].jpg

That's what I mostly carry now. It's not unrealistically big, but big enough for almost anything you would want to do with it. You can choke up or down which makes it very versatile, and it feels big in the hand despite folding up very small. And it is absolutely built like a tank.

Heck if you wanted a real deal I have to say the Native 3 is one of the best deals around still at about $55-60.

JShirley
December 8, 2012, 09:39 AM
I carried a Native 2 the majority of the time for more than 10 years.

I expected to love the 5, but I don't. :confused:

Yo Mama
December 10, 2012, 09:03 PM
I expected to love the 5, but I don't.


To many changes, and price went up alot. I agree, but I have the 4 not the 2.

JShirley
December 10, 2012, 09:13 PM
Well, I have 2 lightweight 2s, and I bought a 5. I've been carrying the 5 lately, but only because my Manix 2 Translucent lost its clip, and the Manix 2 XL's clip is loose. :rolleyes:

Zeke/PA
December 10, 2012, 09:47 PM
Opinels especiall the Carbon steels are one of my favorites for daily carry.
Right now it's a#10 carried in a flashlight holder on my belt.
Inexpensive, scarey edge capable AND they are a lockback!

Tony_the_tiger
December 11, 2012, 01:08 AM
Mini-grip @ 85 - discount + shipping.

http://www.knifeworks.com/benchmademinigriptilianmdpplainedgeblackhandle.aspx

Mp7
December 11, 2012, 07:41 AM
S&W Magnesium H.R.T

... not that it's my favourite knife, but i`ve owned it,
liked it ... and consider it easily dep÷oyable ... and able for last resort defense.
...low price, high quality.

conw
December 11, 2012, 02:13 PM
I came back to the 5 (it had to be sent off for service) after carrying a smaller lighter knife a while and I really do appreciate the sturdiness of it in a small package.

I don't find the price unreasonable for the quality.

Yo Mama - you paid $100+ for the CF Native 4 but think the 5 is too expensive... or do you have the 3 (FRN)?

I heard the 5 would be released in FRN. I do kinda wish I had waited because I actually prefer FRN for the feel and weight (weird huh?).

pikid89
December 11, 2012, 02:49 PM
Manix 2 FFG Blue
hunt around and you can find em under 100
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/pikid89/ae231166.jpg

or
Spyderco Endura4 FFG like 60 or 70 bucks on Amazon
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy141/pikid89/photo.jpg

conw
December 11, 2012, 03:36 PM
I know people like it but to me that translucent blue looks like it belongs on a toy.

http://m2.sourcingmap.com/smapimg/en/n/07c/toy-mini-transparent-blue-digital-sudoku-game-wkey-chain-9100n.jpg

No accounting for taste; just not my thing. The bright blue Endura on the other hand looks great to me.

Elkins45
December 11, 2012, 04:14 PM
Manix 2 FFG Blue
hunt around and you can find em under 100


You don't have to look very hard to find the full G-10 versions for under $100. I think the translucent versions can be had for quite a bit less.

JShirley
December 11, 2012, 05:45 PM
Translucent should be about $80.

Yo Mama
December 11, 2012, 07:19 PM
Yo Mama - you paid $100+ for the CF Native 4 but think the 5 is too expensive... or do you have the 3 (FRN)?



No, I have the FRN, but thought for sure that it was the Native 4. I just checked Spyderco's website, and it looks like the 4 is in fact the CF, but mine doesn't look like the 3. It's the s30v. Now I'm all confused!

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z409/heathl1/P1050935.jpg

pikid89
December 11, 2012, 08:15 PM
The Translucent manix2 is a full flat grind...i like that way better than the Spyderco Sabre Grind. The only G10 FFG that I can think of is the Sprint Run of the Blue G10 Manix2's
Unless some more have surfaced, i dont think they are under 100

JShirley
December 12, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jeff at Cutlery Shoppe ( http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/manix2c101bl2-bluetranscluentlightweight-pre-order-nosolidetafromspyderco-willshipwhenavailable.aspx) has Translucents for $67.20 plus shipping ($7.95, iirc).

pikid89
December 12, 2012, 01:13 PM
^ A heck of a deal for a US Made Spyderco

oldbear
December 12, 2012, 04:42 PM
Noah, I've had very good luck and service/use from CRKT knives. I've been carrying one of their Voyager models for several years now and for a $30.00 knife I've been very pleased.

Noah
December 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
Thanks for all the replies guys! See a lot of Spyderco reccomendations- and looks like I can get and Endura4 FFG for $50 with free shipping right now on Amazon. 3.75" VG-10 FFG blade with a good lock that's not a liner lock- good buy? Mantix looks very nice, but is just expensive for me. Maybe some other time ;)

Funny you should mention the S&W HRT. I have one that I break out now and then. I like it a lot, but always found the deployment slow for my hands, and the steel's pretty soft on it. But when it's sharp, it cuts and especially penetrates very well.

pikid89
December 13, 2012, 12:07 PM
Thats a good buy for the Endura4....I paid over 60 for mine on amazon prime about a year ago,must be coming down...its a spine lock and its solid, theres a reason the Endura is one of the best selling spydies of all time

make sure you have a good way of sharpening it, the endura can take and hold a shaving edge

conw
December 13, 2012, 12:51 PM
YM, the 3 also had/has S30v. It's a 3 (not a thing wrong with that...that is a knife I regret selling. Something was special about the heat treat on mine, it would hold an edge forever.)

CWL
December 13, 2012, 01:54 PM
Spyderco Tasman Salt can be had for $60 delivered.

Aside from current buzzwords like "hard use" (is there a demand for "soft use"?), it performs chores all day long and sometimes night as well.

JShirley
December 13, 2012, 04:36 PM
The Endura is a fairly long knife, but thin. Yeah, $50 delivered is great. The Endura went to steel liners a few years ago, so between that and the backlock and the FRN (much stronger than you'd think), it's an extremely strong knife for its weight. I'd suggest the Delica before the Endura for most people. It looks like you'd only save a few bucks over the Endura (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B003CHANLO/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1355434440&sr=8-1&keywords=spyderco+delica&condition=new), though.

John

Yo Mama
December 13, 2012, 08:00 PM
YM, the 3 also had/has S30v. It's a 3 (not a thing wrong with that...that is a knife I regret selling. Something was special about the heat treat on mine, it would hold an edge forever.)

Yeah, it was my first Spyderco, least carried, but would never get rid of. It was definately my gateway into Spyderco.

tobenheim
December 13, 2012, 10:02 PM
I recently discover the knife line-up over at 5.11Tactical. I bought three for less than $100. The are AUS8 steel and came razor sharp out of the box. They have some interesting designs if you are into something a little less traditional. They do use a liner lock but they lock up tight. You can move the clip to either end, either side. The ones i got came with an allen wrench and extra screws which I thought was a nice touch. All in all I am pretty impressed.

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