Would John Kerry eat his words or get eaten?


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JoeSF
March 3, 2004, 02:21 PM
Kerry once posed the question "who needs to go hunting with an assault rifle anyway?" Maybe he would like to read this story. Photos can be found on this address. (You'll have to scroll down.)

http://mikejericho.blogspot.com/archives/2004_02_29_mikejericho_archive.html#107821575363215722

Tuesday, March 02, 2004
Unbelievable

When Mrs Jerry and I went across the USA last year, we had occasion to stop at a drive-through wildlife park near Mt Rushmore. Among the Bobcats, Wolves, Bison and Deer, there were about fifty or so Grizzlies. Hardly awe-inspiring, they just kind peered at us through the windscreen in a disinterested way.

That in mind, the following is just plain shocking. This was sent to me by my old man, who used to be quite the hunter himself. Make sure you read the text first, before you look at the pictures. The third picture I chose not to place directly on the site, as it may be harmful to any kiddies that might accidentally tune in. Hopefuly said kiddies won't know about links, because that's all you have to click on to see the third pic. But be warned, it isn't edifying. It's of (what's left of) a guy that unsuccessfully unloaded his magazine into the bear a few days before it was finally killed.

The attached pictures are of a guy who works for the Forest Service in
Alaska. He was out deer hunting. A large Grizzly charged him from about
50 yards away. The guy unloaded a 7mm Mag Semi-auto into the bear and it
dropped a few feet from him. The monster was still alive so he reloaded
and capped it in the head.

It was over one thousand six hundred pounds, 12'6" high at the shoulder,
14' to the top of his head. It's the largest Grizzly bear ever recorded
in the world. Of course, the game department did not let him keep it. It
will be mounted and put on display at the Anchorage airport (to remind
tourist's of the risks involved when in the wild).

Think about it. You would be level with the bears belly button when he
stood, he would look you in the eye when walking! This bear on its hind
legs could walk up to the average single story house and look over the
roof at eye level.

The bear had killed 2 other people. His last meal was the poor fellow on
a nature hike. See Picture #3. Ouch. The Forest Service found his
38-caliber emptied. He shot 6-times and hit the grizzly 4 (they found
seven 7mm slugs and four 38 caliber slugs in him) but obviously only
wounded him since that encounter was estimated to be 3 days prior to the
bears death.

The 7mm has about 10 times the energy of a .44 mag pistol and the .38 is
a pop-gun compared to the .44. Fear is good.

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ksnecktieman
March 3, 2004, 02:37 PM
Snopes.com says the pic of the bear are true, but the body in the third pic is from another source.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/bearhunt.asp

Cogar
March 3, 2004, 02:50 PM
In any event, that is one huge bear.

Cosmoline
March 3, 2004, 02:56 PM
Forget the bear, this interent legend just won't die! The bear was big, but by no means the biggest. It was taken on a hunt on Hinchinbrook by a couple of airmen. It was not a man killer, and the hunt was legal. It was a good catch, but there are a lot like that in the islands.

fix
March 3, 2004, 02:56 PM
:what:

Cosmoline
March 3, 2004, 03:00 PM
http://shootersforum.com/attachment.htm?attachmentid=280

One from the Naknek river area for comparison. Brownies get BIG. Well over 1,000 lbs., which is twice the size of a big lion.

mtnbkr
March 3, 2004, 03:03 PM
Yes, it's a big bear. Those pics keep getting attached to a new and different story each time.

How about we attack Kerry on his record, using facts, instead of using legends and rumors to justify why we need weapons that should need no justification in the first place.

Chris

JoeSF
March 4, 2004, 02:51 PM
Chris,

Kerrys voting record on guns can be found at:
http://www.csgv.org/issues/elections/kerry_voting.cfm

Do Sprays and Guns Help?
When it comes to arguing about the effectiveness of bear sprays vs. firearms as deterrents in bear attacks, both sides have valid points to make. The truth is that people don’t shoot particularly well under stressful situations like a bear attack, as illustrated by the above example. Sprays can also fail spectacularly as deterrents, especially when the canister is stashed in a backpack (as often happens) or if the wind is blowing the wrong way. But Smith says one thing is certain. Having a deterrent handy is much better than facing a menacing bear with nothing but your fists. For one, the spray or firearm gives you something to do other than run, which is the wrong response to an encounter.

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/hunting/biggame/article/0,13285,471417,00.html
regards,
Joe

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