Gambled on an estate sale hi-Power


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anothernewb
December 7, 2012, 04:17 PM
Bought a hi power over the phone from an estate sale. Here's what I ended up with. After asking on another board, it was suggested that the deal was too good to pass up - It cost me a little over $570, plus about 4 hours of my time driving to get it. I looked over what I can see - looks almost like new to me. Wondering how I did?

question 1 (sorry for the idiot part - I'm new at gun ID's) - this is a true Browning Hi Power, and not a clone - correct?

Question 2 - there is some rust at the muzzle, and on the feed ramp. thinking a bit o scotch brite and ellbow grease should fix that

Question 3. The bag o parts in the first picture - magazine disconnect?

Question 4 - anything aside from the obvious to look for for wear and/or issues?

The pics.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3200.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3202.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3203.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3204.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3209.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3210.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3211.jpg

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anothernewb
December 7, 2012, 04:18 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3215.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3219.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3221.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3222.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3234.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/chase-aise/Browning/IMG_3236.jpg

daybreak
December 7, 2012, 04:46 PM
nice

Cocked & Locked
December 7, 2012, 05:06 PM
Sweet! I like the Pachmayr/Browning grips...looks great.

mokin
December 7, 2012, 05:18 PM
What daybreak said.

Didn't get a good enough look at the bag of parts but I'd guess a magazine disconnect.

Jim Watson
December 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
question 1 (sorry for the idiot part - I'm new at gun ID's) - this is a true Browning Hi Power, and not a clone - correct?

Yes. The "Browning Arms Company" on the slide is kind of a giveaway.

Question 2 - there is some rust at the muzzle, and on the feed ramp. thinking a bit o scotch brite and ellbow grease should fix that

I'd hit it with a coarse oily cloth then 0000 steel wool before scotchbrite.

Question 3. The bag o parts in the first picture - magazine disconnect?

Yes. See also the hole in the trigger where the m.d. pin used to be.

Question 4 - anything aside from the obvious to look for for wear and/or issues?

Well, it's yours now, so the issues are yours. But it really looks very good and I would not expect any problems.

utbrowningman
December 7, 2012, 05:35 PM
Nice.

Husker_Fan
December 7, 2012, 05:37 PM
The part in the bag I can clearly see is the magazine disconnect plunger. The spring and pin are likely in there too.

Nice score.

Gordon
December 7, 2012, 05:43 PM
Has Millet sights too. Certainly worth what you paid and set up for good shooting!;)

anothernewb
December 7, 2012, 06:15 PM
I had to go look, the pin is still in the trigger, must just be the pictures make it look gone.

Did some looking around on the magazine disconnect - I can dry fire it without the mag in, so it must be whats in the bag. I'm exited to take it to the range!

Serial number comes back as a 1994 model. hard to believe that it's been sitting in a box all these years

JMACDONALD
December 7, 2012, 06:57 PM
if you bought that from a dealer in Mass it would run you about $800......USED! I think you did extremely well.

2zulu1
December 7, 2012, 07:13 PM
That's a beautiful looking Hi-Power and a very good price. Looking forward to your range reports. :)

sirgilligan
December 7, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jim Watson answered the questions correctly so all I can say is, "Congratulations. You have a nice Hi-Power. You will love the way it points and shots."

BYJO4
December 7, 2012, 09:45 PM
It looks like you made a nice buy. Enjoy shooting it.

David White
December 7, 2012, 10:30 PM
Sweet gun. One of my favorites!
Enjoy the hell out if it!

bannockburn
December 8, 2012, 12:21 AM
Sweet deal and a great price on a very nice Hi-Power. Your gamble paid off quite nicely. Enjoy.

BHP FAN
December 8, 2012, 06:30 AM
just about the perfect handgun.

Pilot
December 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
That is a two tone (the frame is factory Silver Chrome) Browning Hi Power "Practical". The also came with fixed sights, but you got the adjustable sight model. When I bought my Silver Chrome Hi Power in 1994, one was sitting in the case next to it. My Silver Chrome is the same gun, adjustable sights and all except the slide is also chromed.

That gun looks unfired. You got a great deal.

Ken70
December 8, 2012, 12:40 PM
Hi Powers are single action, right? From the trigger it looks like the typical single/double action. Beretta 92, S&W 915, most SIGs.

Anybody know why it has that style trigger instead of what a 1911 has, which is also single action? Just from pictures, I always thought it was a sa/da gun.

WardenWolf
December 8, 2012, 01:41 PM
Wow, that's a beautiful gun. Nice score!

Russ Jackson
December 8, 2012, 01:48 PM
I think this was a trick question. But it worked.....Very nice pistol. They don't get much better.

TMann
December 8, 2012, 01:54 PM
Just a few more bits of info:

- The model that you have is called a Hipower "Practical." It is a Mark III model (the latest model) that happens to have a two-tone finish and a round hammer. Otherwise, I believe that it is mechanically identical to the standard Mark III.

- As far as the price goes, the Practical model was discontinued a few years back, so they fetch a higher price than the standard models. If that were purchased here in the Seattle area, it would be in the $700 to 800 range. (You got a good deal on that one!) I have the exact same model, but with the standard non-adjustable sights.

- Recent Hipowers were made, as I recall, by F.N. of Belgium. Even the ones that are marked Browning are made by F.N. However, the Browning name is still a desirable feature, so Browning Hipowers seem to go for more than the identical FN models.

- Because of the way that the magazine release works, most Hipowers will have a smoother trigger pull when the mag release has been removed. Hence, they are often taken out.

- The one downside of the Hipower design is that many shooters will get pinched by the hammer and the backstrap when shooting. It varies a lot from person to person and is dependent on how high you grip the gun. If you do find yourself getting "bitten", the easiest solution, IMHO, it to get a reshaped hammer like THIS one from Cylinder and Slide. (http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=CS0197HC). The reshaped hammer works well to eliminate the hammer bite.

- Standard 9mm Hipower magazines are 13-rounders. Mec-Gar magazines are essentially identical to the Hipower mags and are typically cheaper. (Mec-Gar is the OEM manufacturer for a lot of brands; I've never had any issues with any of their magazines.) Mec-Gar also makes a 15-round magazine for the Hipower which is the exact same size. Most people have had good luck with the reliability of the 15-round magazine.

- The Pachmayr grips that came with your Hipower are great. However, if you want something slimmer or fancier, there are a lot of aftermarket grip options for the Hipower.

Enjoy your new gun! You got a great deal there.

TMann

Dmath
December 8, 2012, 01:54 PM
Hi Powers are single action, right? From the trigger it looks like the typical single/double action. Beretta 92, S&W 915, most SIGs.

Anybody know why it has that style trigger instead of what a 1911 has, which is also single action? Just from pictures, I always thought it was a sa/da gun.
Nope, High Powers are traditionally SA. And they have always had that style of trigger. I don't know why.

TMann
December 8, 2012, 02:01 PM
Hi Powers are single action, right? From the trigger it looks like the typical single/double action. Beretta 92, S&W 915, most SIGs.

Anybody know why it has that style trigger instead of what a 1911 has, which is also single action? Just from pictures, I always thought it was a sa/da gun.

The 1911 trigger is pretty unique among handguns in that it doesn't pivot from the top the way most triggers do. It moves straight back. Hence, the unusual appearance.

Hipowers, although they are also SA only, have a more typical pivoting trigger.

TMann

anothernewb
December 8, 2012, 06:03 PM
Thanks for all the compliments. I was kinda scared when I agreed to buy it. I agreed to buy it without actually handling it, and it was a long nervous ride to pick it up. I hope to get to the range soon with it. I was actually more searching for a smaller revolver, or something like a Sig P238 for concealed carry when this came up, but I'm sure this'll find a nice comfortable spot next to the SR1911.

To tell the truth - It's so darn pretty I (almost) don't want to get it dirty...

Certaindeaf
December 8, 2012, 06:09 PM
They are all pretty, even the very well used/worn ones. It'll clean right up.

browningguy
December 8, 2012, 08:05 PM
Very nice Practical model. Now get over to Esmerelda's sight and get a set of grips to make it pretty and practical.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/Pistols/PracticalCocoboloGrips1.jpg

Esmerelda (http://www.esmeralda.cc/browninggrips.htm)

You'll have to just keep checking every few days because the prettier grips usually sell within a day or so of getting shown.

BADSBSNF81
December 8, 2012, 08:17 PM
FYI it was made in 1995.

SSN Vet
December 8, 2012, 09:02 PM
You scored big time.... Very sweet HP

How's a dealer in MA going to sell anybody anything with a 13 round mag. :)

460Kodiak
December 8, 2012, 10:11 PM
Nice score

Dentite
December 8, 2012, 10:43 PM
Hi Powers are single action, right? From the trigger it looks like the typical single/double action. Beretta 92, S&W 915, most SIGs.

Anybody know why it has that style trigger instead of what a 1911 has, which is also single action? Just from pictures, I always thought it was a sa/da gun.

One possible reason the design of the trigger departs from the 1911 is that when JMB began design of the Hi-Power/GP 35 as a contract military pistol for the French he had to work around the still-in-effect patents on the 1911 held by Colt.

It would be interesting to see what the pistol would have ended up like if he had free range.

Gordon
December 8, 2012, 11:56 PM
Yeah Esmeralda grips rule!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/P1010494.jpg

Rock185
December 9, 2012, 12:43 AM
anothernewb, I had a couple of the fixed sight Practicals very shortly after they were released. 1990, IIRC. Wished I'd hung on to at least one. If you decide to sell that one to buy what you were originally looking for, you'll make money on that Practical...

Just a comment on manufacture. Seems to have always been a misconception among American shooters who thought Browning, in the USA, made/make the only original "Browning Hi-Powers". All Browning Hi-Powers, whether recent, old, new, sorta old, sorta new, whether the first one ever made or the ones manufactured yesterday, were manufactured by Fabrique National in Belgium. "Browning" never manufactured a single one. I've seen numerous comments over the years expressing the that the FN is a good clone, that someone is looking for/has/wants to sell, etc. a genuine American Browning Hi-power. " Browning" is a more desireable rollmark in the US, but Browning or FN, same quality and made in the same place... Enjoy, you bought beautiful, and "real Browning Hi-Power" at a great price.

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