That's not a Universal Carbine


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GunnyUSMC
December 8, 2012, 09:44 AM
A few weeks ago I stopped in at one of the local pawn shops and spotted a M1 Carbine on the rack. The guy at the counter said that it was a Universal with an IBM barrel.
I asked to have a look at it and this is what I saw.
http://i46.tinypic.com/orjpl1.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2z3ui52.jpg
The barrel markings were worn but I could make out the flaming boom and the letters OOD. It was not an IBM barrel. :think:
http://i50.tinypic.com/s6j4tk.jpg

The top od the recever had what looked like the military markings.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2eyxc79.jpg

It had the adjustable rear sight and I couldn't see the manufactuer name, but I could see the first two letters on the left side of the sight UN. When I looked on the right side of the sight I could see the letters OOD.
It has been a long time since I saw the TV show Wheel of Furtune, but I still know how to play the game. UN_ _ _ _OOD, add DERW and you have UNDERWOOD. :cool:
http://i49.tinypic.com/141432u.jpg

As some of you know, I do my best to never pay the asking price on a used gun. So I asked what he could do on the price. He said he would let me have it for $450 out the door. ;)
So I bought it. :D

The stock has been sandes and will be replaced and it has a tiny import mark on the front bottom side of the barrel.
Here are a few more pics.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1jrvpl.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/jrviit.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/mn2te8.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2r7xb1v.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/xgcubo.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/140x185.jpg

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303tom
December 8, 2012, 10:18 AM
Nice...............

Reloadron
December 8, 2012, 10:37 AM
Gunny you got yourself a nice little carbine at a great price. Unless those are cracks or something I see in the second image I would just refinish the wood. The M1 Carbine is just one of those little rifles you have to love. Enjoy it!

Ron

Sam1911
December 8, 2012, 10:43 AM
Hey! That's pretty nice! My Carbine is an Underwood left to me by my Uncle, and it gets regular workouts. Love that little gun!

GunnyUSMC
December 10, 2012, 12:17 AM
Well, come to find out it is a Universal, but not a Universal Firearms. It is a rare WWII subcontracted receiver made by Universal Windings for Underwood.
You can see the small W at the rear of the receiver in this pic.

http://i47.tinypic.com/140x185.jpg

WardenWolf
December 10, 2012, 12:24 AM
Nice score!

shotgunjoel
December 10, 2012, 12:37 AM
I saw that W and knew that it must have been a subcontracted receiver. I have a National Post Meter with a U stamped in the same place, the receiver was one of about 50,000 contracted out to Union Switch and Signal.

Art Eatman
December 10, 2012, 11:41 AM
I saw a few carbines at the Tallahassee gun show, yesterday. Tags said around $1,100. Needless to say, I didn't bother to take a close look. :D

Strange Bob
December 10, 2012, 12:49 PM
Very nice find, great observation(s), fairly decent negotiations :D.

Congrats!

GunnyUSMC
December 11, 2012, 09:34 PM
I have a lot of guns in my collection so, there is not much out there that I need. I like buying guns, but the hunt for great deals is what I love the best.
Just look back at my post and you can see some of thost hunting trophies. :D

PhotonSD
December 11, 2012, 09:46 PM
You are absolutely right that is not a Universal Carbine. I own one and will gladly trade you for that Underwood. Interested??? Huh? Uh, I'm guessing no. Congratulations on a great find.

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