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GLOOB December 9, 2012, 05:31 PM I vowed in another thread to post a vid when I got the chance.
I finally did some shooting (of my rifle), so I sat down and did some more shooting (with my camera). So here it is; eight 223 cases trimmed and outside chamfered in a minute. That's about 7.5 seconds per case. (I am not inside chamfering, because these cases are going to be flared with an M die.)
http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/gloob27x/?action=view¤t=LeeZipTrim.mp4
I am embarrassed to admit how long it took me to figure out how to use the Zip trim chuck in this fashion. So I hope this vid is helpful to some of the other slow learners out there. :)
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StretchNM December 9, 2012, 07:32 PM I don;t use the zip trim but rather the Lee drill check attachment. It's nowhere near as fast as you're doing it!
GLOOB December 9, 2012, 08:17 PM Lest I be accused of trickery and false advertising, I should add that it's a heck a lot easier to do this when your drill has an adjustable torque-limiter (so you don't rub your hand/glove raw when tightening) and an automatic spindle lock (so you can "break" the lock with a twist, before spinning the drill in reverse, else you would just trip the aforementioned torque-limiter.
Even better than the speed is how easy it is. There's little in the way of setting up. And it's easy to maintain a good pace for lots of cases, because there's not a whole lot of movement involved.
I'll also throw in my two cents on the Lee chamfer tool. Bar none, it gives the bestest looking outside chamfer for a manual tool, esp if you use a motorized system that spins the case, rather than the tool. If you hold the tool at a very slight angle where each of the cutting edges are at different angles, you will get a more rounded, double-beveled chamfer. And it doesn't leave chatter marks (or even asymmetrical gouges when chamfering with a motor) like the pronged tools.
morrow December 9, 2012, 09:57 PM Don't you need another tool to chamfer the inside?
GLOOB December 9, 2012, 10:37 PM Yeah, I have a standard "rocket ship" chamfer tool for inside chamfer.
But I don't put an inside chamfer on any of my rifle brass, anymore. I load a lot of cast bullets, so I find it beneficial to expand and flare with a Lyman M die. I don't need any inside chamfer when I use the M die. In fact, I can secure against setback using less crimp, if I don't do an inside chamfer.
JC98 December 9, 2012, 10:44 PM That's awesome!
So is that just the universal 3 jaw chuck and the 3 jaw spinner? I have about 300 308's that need to be trimmed that I have been procrastinating because I hate trimming.
GLOOB December 9, 2012, 10:50 PM Just this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/352653/lee-zip-trim-case-trimmer-universal-3-jaw-chuck-case-holder
this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/174316/lee-case-spinner-spindle-with-drill-shank-for-use-with-3-jaw-chuck?cm_vc=sugv1352653
And I have one of these epoxied into a block of wood, screwed onto the table for outside chamfer:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/389104/lee-chamfer-and-deburring-tool
That's $20.00 of parts, not including cutter and trim guide. I buy a separate cutter for each caliber, so I am in for another $11.00 or so per caliber.
Also not shown, I put a flat into the ball handle of the cutters with my belt sander, so they don't roll around. :)
JC98 December 9, 2012, 10:59 PM Thank you for the links. Guess I can quit procrastinating the trimming now:D
blarby December 9, 2012, 11:05 PM Good stuff.
I think if you mounted one of those inside AND outside chamfer tools RCBS offers, you'd save another step.
Well done.
mike.h December 9, 2012, 11:20 PM thanks...
GLOOB December 10, 2012, 01:37 PM I think if you mounted one of those inside AND outside chamfer tools RCBS offers, you'd save another step.
I would definitely look into that if I wanted an inside chamfer. I suppose that's caliber specific, though? The unique thing about the Lee system is that is turns the case. Adding a separate inside chamfer "station" would only add another 1/2 second or so to the process and could be made with a hand tool and another scrap of wood.
FiveInADime December 11, 2012, 04:51 PM My case-prep system is almost the same as yours GLOOB. I like the Lee "thimble" for inside chamfer as well as outside. I don't have the 3-jaw chuck and spinner stud (yet). I just use the regular stud and shellholder right now, but I do have to wear thin leather gloves and it takes a couple seconds longer to change cases than your system. I do trim, inside chamfer, outside chamfer, and a spin through steel wool. Takes about 10 seconds per case. I do maximum 100 cases at a time, though (being a low volume loader).
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