Muzzle Brake


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dalegann
December 10, 2012, 05:54 PM
I have a Savage Model 11/111 in 7MM Rem Mag. It is a tack driver and very attractive, however the recoil is massive. I am thinking of adding a muzzle break and would like to get you guys input. I need to know price, where to have it done, how much recoil I can expect to reduce, and will it affect the accuracy?
Thanks guys!
DG

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hoghunting
December 11, 2012, 02:09 AM
Instead of the extra expense of a muzzle brake and the increased noise, why not install a better recoil pad. Kick-Eez makes a great recoil pad.

Lee Roder
December 11, 2012, 08:34 AM
Nothing quite like a noisy muzzle break

http://postworthy.com/contributorimages/rifle-peeled-2.jpg

to ruin your day

:evil:

Hacker15E
December 11, 2012, 08:40 AM
Nice pic!

Brake vs break.

dubbleA
December 11, 2012, 10:45 AM
Nothing quite like a noisy muzzle break



to ruin your day




That's funny(no pun intended really) but when you follow the picture link the barrel was blown apart because a bore sighter was left in the muzzle and was fired.

Absolutely nothing to do with a muzzle brake. :banghead:


Instead of the extra expense of a muzzle brake and the increased noise, why not install a better recoil pad. Kick-Eez makes a great recoil pad.

There isnt a a recoil pad made that I am aware of that even comes close to minimizing recoil like a good brake will.

dalegann, in todays world there are many makes and types of muzzle brakes. Some work better than others. Not going to get in to that, you can use your goggle fu for that.

Your type of shooting might dictate the type, some vent the gases all the way around while others only vent to either side and the top. The later would be good for shooting prone so dust singature is kept at a minmum.

Two good brakes that come to mind for a hunting rifle are the Vais and KDF. As far as prices are concerned you are probably in the $150-$200 range.

I probably have a dozen or so firearms with muzzle brakes from 223 Rem to 50 BMG and they all serve a purpose. One in particular is so effective that you swear the rifle is being pulled away from you when shot, it's a 30-378 WBY Improved.

hoghunting
December 12, 2012, 01:39 AM
There isnt a a recoil pad made that I am aware of that even comes close to minimizing recoil like a good brake will.

All he needs to do is make it more comfortable to shoot, and a good recoil pad will do that as it is just a 7mm RM. And it will also be more comfortable without the increased muzzle blast.

4v50 Gary
December 12, 2012, 08:18 AM
Better recoil pad. A muzzle brake will affect the accuracy.

Hacker15E
December 12, 2012, 08:20 AM
Absolutely nothing to do with a muzzle brake. :banghead:

Actually, he was making fun of the OP's misuse of the word "break" in the first post (instead of the correct word, which is "brake").

In the photo...the muzzle is broken.

Words mean stuff.

Tempest 455
December 14, 2012, 12:08 PM
I have a brake on my 10BA. It's considerably reduces the recoil and holds approx .5 MOA on a good day.

Just FYI, some ranges don't allow them if you shoot prone.

Kp321
December 15, 2012, 01:18 AM
A properly installed break will not hurt accuracy. I have installed literally hundreds and have had no complaints of poor accuracy.
On the subject of recoil pads, the Kick-Eze pads are good and soft but are a PITA to install. They also react with some plastics such as nylon carpet. I have had them stick to the carpet in my shop and leave a permanent spot that looks like a heat melted spot. If you have one, store the gun muzzle down.

David E
December 15, 2012, 01:34 AM
A properly installed (muzzle) break will not hurt accuracy.

Of course it will!

Now, a muzzle brake on the other hand......

In fact, just yesterday I showed my FIL the different effects of a flash suppressor vs a muzzle brake.

rcmodel
December 15, 2012, 01:49 AM
A properly installed (muzzle) break will not hurt accuracy.Yes it will.

The massive concussion & blast right in front of your face will have you jerking and jumping like a little girl with ants in her pants in no time atall!!!

I'd prefer a little more recoil to more blast in my face any day, anywhere, any time.



however the recoil is massive7mm Mag recoil isn't massive.
It is only slightly more then a 30-06 on a bad day.

A .460 Weatherby is massive.
A 7 pound 12 ga pump shotgun with 3" mags is massive.

You are holding the rifle too loosely, or wrong, letting it get a running start before it hits you.
Or the stock doesn't fit you and is hitting you in the face.

rc

David E
December 15, 2012, 02:58 AM
Yes it will.

The massive concussion & blast right in front of your face will have you jerking and jumping like a little girl with ants in her pants in no time at all!!!

I wonder what muzzle brakes you have tried. :eek:

What you describe hasn't been anywhere near my personal or observed experience.

4v50 Gary
December 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
On the issue of muzzle brakes and accuracy, gases exiting the bore will put pressure on the base of the bullet. A non-concentric muzzle brake will exert gases differently around the axis of the bore. Thus, the pressure on the bullet will vary, causing its flight to be affected. Ref: page 233 of Blake Stevens' The M-14 Rifle.

xfyrfiter
December 16, 2012, 03:16 PM
Some people such as myself are more sensitive to recoil than others, mine is due to a bad shoulder, and some days even 223 hurts, and 308 is like a sledge hammer. If recoil is an issue by all means use a brake.

chris in va
December 20, 2012, 09:10 PM
Thinking about a brake on my AR carbine just because it has a bit more rise than I would like compared to the 20" rifle I borrowed.

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