What is the Old Standby powder for .45acp


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Madmax
December 11, 2012, 10:20 AM
What is the "old standby" powders for the .45 ACP and 9mm Luger?

Want to pick some powder up to start reloading both rounds. So many powders to pick from. Want to know what powder to use to reload pinking rounds for both.

Thanks

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MtnCreek
December 11, 2012, 10:30 AM
reload pinking rounds for both
HP38 for plinking.

For full house loads:
.45acp = ramshot silhouette.
9x19 = HS6.

SlamFire1
December 11, 2012, 10:35 AM
For decades the "standby powders" for 45ACP were Bullseye or Unique. Bullseye is the original propellant used in the 1910 cartridges. I like Bullseye in the 45 ACP and use it for target loads in the 9mm. Power Pistol is a Bullseye variant that is very popular with the 9mm target crowd.

I have used kegs of W231 in the 45 ACP and it also works well in the 9mm.

oldpapps
December 11, 2012, 10:38 AM
"the "old standby" powders for the .45 ACP and 9mm"

The classics would be 'Unique' and 'Bullseye', add one or more of the 'Dots' (Blue, Red & Green) for the 9s.

I much prefer 231/HP38 for both. Add a little Titegroup and you've got 9s, 38s, 40s and 45s covered. For bigger/heavier magnum rounds (357, 41, 44 and bigger), some 2400 is classic. I would go with 296/H110 just because.

mtrmn
December 11, 2012, 10:53 AM
Unique---nothing else like it.

Kevin Rohrer
December 11, 2012, 10:55 AM
Unique and Bullseye. I use Unique for almost all my pistol cartridges as it fills the cases and prevents double-charges.

RhinoDefense
December 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
I recommend WSF for 9mm and .45. Performance very similar to Unique but meters though a powder measure more consistently.

tyeo098
December 11, 2012, 11:27 AM
I use Bullseye for 9mm, 38spl, and 45ACP.

Mike 27
December 11, 2012, 11:31 AM
Bullseye works in both very well. There are some powders that work better in 9mm, but it works great in 45acp.

NeuseRvrRat
December 11, 2012, 11:42 AM
W231/HP38 has served me well so far

rcmodel
December 11, 2012, 11:44 AM
I use nothing but Unique in both of them.

rc

EMC45
December 11, 2012, 11:51 AM
Bullseye.

mike.h
December 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
yep, Bullseye, it's a little smoky,

Searcher4851
December 11, 2012, 11:57 AM
Bullseye or Unique. They've been working for years and no complaints from me.

Jim Watson
December 11, 2012, 12:00 PM
I use W231/HP38 in standard velocity loads for both 9mm and .45 ACP.

I am using Bullseye for midrange and powderpuff loads in .45 because it gives more uniform low velocities than 231 or other Ball powders and meters better than other flake powders.

rikman
December 11, 2012, 12:04 PM
Win231 & Unique

Boxhead
December 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
W231. Still all I use 30 years later. Same, same for the H&G 68.

elwoodm
December 11, 2012, 12:11 PM
I like W231 for 45 auto and 9mm seems to be a little cleaner burning. the guns i have in 45 and 9mm are stainless and they clean up a lot better than when unique is loaded in them.

Boostedtwo
December 11, 2012, 03:00 PM
I use unique personally

LennieT
December 11, 2012, 03:14 PM
Yep, Unique.
Lennie

2bfree
December 11, 2012, 03:40 PM
Another happy user of 231/hp-38 for 9mm and 45 ACP. I have not tried any others though, I'm of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" type.

RugerBob
December 11, 2012, 05:38 PM
I use to use unique. Now 700x for 45acp. I don't have a 9mm.
Still use unique for.other things.

BYJO4
December 12, 2012, 12:30 AM
Another vote for Bullseye as my first choice and Unique for my second choice.

ColtPythonElite
December 12, 2012, 12:32 AM
Unique for me.

justsoIcanupvotethis
December 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
I was becoming a big fan of Titegroup untill I tried Unique. I really like Unique for .45 and 9mm and for .44 mag lead loads too. Kinda hard to beat that versatility.

ArchAngelCD
December 12, 2012, 01:07 AM
Bullseye and Unique were the go-to powders for almost any caliber because back then they were the only powders available. Now that we have so many powders it's almost impossible to pick just one there are other choices that work better.

I found W231 to be the best powder for the 45 ACP and I also use it in the 9mm. I also use Longshot for high end 9mm loads.

codefour
December 12, 2012, 01:24 AM
I was a huge believer in Unique as well until... Until I tried Power Pistol. Powr Pistol was designed for 9mm and .40 S&W but I found it works very well in .45 ACP.

Power Pistol produces better velocity and accuracy in all three (9mm .40 S&W and .45 ACP). It is a LOT cleaner than Unique. I have 12 lbs of Unique that I bought before I discovered Power Pistol. Now, the Unique is waiting for a rainy day or armageddon or what ever.. From now, I am going to stick to Power Pistol.

flynlr
December 12, 2012, 06:53 AM
use unique for .380 40S&W and 45 ACP seems just fine.

Wildbillz
December 12, 2012, 08:57 AM
Cast lead I would use Unique or Bullseye. Jacketed bullets I go to Win231.

As a side note, most all my pistol loads use one of these three powders. Magnums I need to use somthing else. 2400 or AA #9 maybe.

WB

edfardos
December 12, 2012, 09:08 AM
which powder is least likely to foul your 45 chamber? Unburned aa#5 caused jams in my 1911, but hp38 burns completely, no jams.

edfardos

mcdonl
December 12, 2012, 09:18 AM
I just did some tests of Unique, Universal and W231 using Cast 230RN and Berry 220HP's with various loads @ 15 yards.... All loads were tested out of a 1911 and M&P 45 - No malfunctions and none of the powders seemed to be dirtier than the others.

The best groupings I got (Albiet not terrific, but they were the best none-the-less) were the LRN w/ 5.1 of W231 - The Unique and Universal were pretty close. So close they may have been equal...

All of them did better on the second go-round... not sure if it can be attributed to the gun being warm or me being warm....

Bottom line all three of the powders I had perfomed nicely with two different bullets out of two different guns.

Bovice
December 12, 2012, 10:46 PM
I've heard that universal is meant to be the "new" unique. DO NOT INTERCHANGE THE TWO EQUALLY, THE DATA IS DIFFERENT. But that's what I've heard.

cfullgraf
December 12, 2012, 11:32 PM
What is the "old standby" powders for the .45 ACP and 9mm Luger?



I have used 700-X in 45 ACP for 30 years. Does that qualify as an "old standby"?

Other powders suggested are good as well. Also, Accurate #5

I have been using True Blue in 9x19 since 2009 when other powders were in short supply. I liked it and have kept using it.

savanahsdad
December 13, 2012, 12:47 AM
Unique is my go to power for 45acp, I do use others , but Unique works best in my 1911,

SSN Vet
December 13, 2012, 03:39 PM
I asked the same question 5 years ago when I started and decided on W231...

I've been happy with the results and have had no other reason to try anything different.

I may pick up a pound of Unique or Long Shot to work up some max. velocity loads.... but W231 meters like a dream, burns completely, isn't too aweful dirty, and has been accurate and reliable.

BigJimP
December 13, 2012, 04:28 PM
Hodgdon Universal is my primary choice....

( my 2nd choice would be Hodgdon TiteGroup ) ...

readyeddy
December 13, 2012, 04:33 PM
For me it's been W231 for the past 20 years.

HKGuns
December 31, 2012, 01:51 AM
Cfull, you're the only other person I've ever seen using 700X for pistol loads.

I use it for .45ACP and 9mm as well because I have a 12 pound keg for shotgun reloading. Pretty versatile and you use hardly any of it for reloading pistol rounds.

918v
December 31, 2012, 01:55 AM
AA#7 for 9mm

Bullseye for the 45

Float Pilot
December 31, 2012, 01:55 AM
Another vote for ww 231 OR AS IT IS ALSO KNOWN hp-38

cfullgraf
December 31, 2012, 10:30 AM
Cfull, you're the only other person I've ever seen using 700X for pistol loads.

I use it for .45ACP and 9mm as well because I have a 12 pound keg for shotgun reloading. Pretty versatile and you use hardly any of it for reloading pistol rounds.

There are a few of us out there that "have seen the light".:)

Besides, the name of the powder relates to bullseye shooting.

Interesting, my favorite 20 and 28 gauge powder when I was shooting skeet competitively was Unique. I had it on hand for hand gun when i started loading those gauges.

Walkalong
December 31, 2012, 01:35 PM
700X & Solo 1000 are both good in .45 ACP, as well as other pistol rounds. Lead and 700X work wonderfully in .44 Spl. I bought a paper bag full a long time ago, and it beat out W-231 (Metal cans) in .44 Spl.

I still have part of a metal 5 lb metal can of 700X I bought for $50 at a show when my bag full ran out.

Guilty
December 31, 2012, 01:37 PM
I use W231 for both 9mm and .45 ACP

petrey10
December 31, 2012, 04:18 PM
well unique is great but nothing is as versatile as Hodgdons Universal Clays

918v
January 1, 2013, 01:26 AM
UC sucks at 45 ACP pressures for target loads.

ArchAngelCD
January 1, 2013, 01:42 AM
I've heard that universal is meant to be the "new" unique. DO NOT INTERCHANGE THE TWO EQUALLY, THE DATA IS DIFFERENT. But that's what I've heard.
Hodgdon developed Universal to compete against Unique. It performs much like Unique except it meters better and it's much cleaner.

DaveyDug
January 1, 2013, 02:34 PM
First post...

I use W231/HP38 with lead bullets in 9mm, .38 Special, and .45 Auto. I see no reason to switch.

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