Remington 700 Stock Selection


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mcdonl
December 15, 2012, 09:50 AM
Thanks to everyone who helped me decide my build order and optics selection.

Order

1 - Rifle (done)
2 - Scope (done)
3 - Stock

Rings and bipod are tied for fourth.

The rifle is a Remington 700 ADL .308 w/heavy barrel
The intended use is a 100 yard target rifle from a bench.

The scope is a Nikon buckmasters 3x9x40 BDC ($168 OTD at cabelas!!)

My question now is which stock? Please, feel free to post pictures!! That will help. My budget is up to $300.

Also. I assume my $5 Walmart scope rings should never touch my new scope so I will need some guidance on rings.

Now, off to learn better brass prep and other rile reloading techniques.

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jmr40
December 15, 2012, 09:59 AM
These bases and Rings

http://swfa.com/Remington-C2615.aspx

Any one of these stock designs you prefer

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-BELL-%26-CARLSON-cln-Varmint-fdsh-Tactical/Categories

I like this one.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-185/bell-carlson-2958-tactical/Detail

But there are several options you may prefer

mcdonl
December 15, 2012, 04:05 PM
I like the B&C "hook" stock a lot. My question there is regarding the "bottom metal" - my gun is an ADL so it does not have a removable floor plate. I would like to convert it to a box magazine at the same time. What would I need? Also, if anyone wants to take a stab at explaining BDL and bottom metal to me I am all ears!


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allaroundhunter
December 15, 2012, 04:13 PM
Adding a bottom metal can be expensive....like, over $300 expensive. To get the BDL to fit all you have to do is drop the action of your ADL into the stock, and screw the BDL floorplate into the stock using the action screws from your ADL.

However, are you wanting just the standard Remington floorplate, or are you wanting the rifle to be able to accept 5 and 10 round detachable magazines?

Here is your standard BDL bottom metal ($90):

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/327914/remington-trigger-guard-assembly-remington-700-bdl-long-action-aluminum-matte

And here is one that allows you to use a detachable magazine ($250):

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/350100/wyatts-outdoors-trigger-guard-and-detachable-magazine-assembly-remington-700-bdl-short-action-308-winchester-5-round-aluminum-black

Reloadron
December 15, 2012, 05:25 PM
Just remember if you run with the 700 BDL standard bottom metal as linked you want a short action as you have a .308 rifle. Also, if you have standard slotted screws you may want to invest in Allen head screws.

Ron

jmr40
December 15, 2012, 06:02 PM
Being ADL changes things and really limits your options for a good stock that is inexpensive. McMillan is an option. They will make you an ADL pattern tactical stock for $418.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22


That isn't cheap, but it would be cheaper to get the ADL stock from McMillan than to try to convert ADL to BDL and buy a cheaper stock.

if anyone wants to take a stab at explaining BDL and bottom metal to me I am all ears!



ADL simply means it has a blind magazine with no floorplate. I actually like this design. The guns are less expensive, lighter, and with no cutout in the stock stiffer. A BDL has a hinged floorplate for easier unloading. A DBM (detachable box magazine) has a magazine that can be removed. It can be expensive to change to BDL or DBM and the money is better spent on better glass or a better scope in my opinion. If you already have BDL or DBM I wouldn't convert the other way either.

Bottom metal simply refers to any metal on the bottom of your gun. The trigger guard, floorplate, magwell etc. depending on the guns design.

I don't especally like them, but your best option is probably one of the Boyds laminated stocks www.boydsgunstocks.com

mcdonl
December 15, 2012, 06:50 PM
Thats a bummer, I really liked that B&C Tactical Stock but it looks like a short action, ADL is a no go with that stock.

What does anyone know about the Choate stocks?

Does anyone know the difference between the sniper and varmint models?

Sniper (http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/SPS/22-01-09)

Varmint (http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/VMS/24-01-10)


They pretty much look the same. The bedding does not as significant as the B&C stocks though. Perhaps I should be changing my style requirements as the B&C stocks just look better made.

This looks nice!! And, it has full bedding....

Choate Tactical Stock (http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/TRS/25-01-05)

Skylerbone
December 15, 2012, 08:38 PM
For your intended purpose, I'd skip the conversion and consider expanding the budget for something like this: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-556/Bobby-Hart-Ideal-Benchrest/Detail or: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-399/H-dsh-S-Precision-Pro-dsh-Series-2000/Detail. Note the first is a single-shot option while the second makes use of your current blind magazine. I believe the HS stocks can also be custom ordered for L.O.P. and additional sling swivels (mine was).

If you're wanting bottom metal try the WTS/WTT section of the forum or ebay.

mcdonl
December 15, 2012, 08:47 PM
I am not interested in converting. Given the use. I like the looks of that tactical Choate though. I need to stay under $300 for the stock.


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jmr40
December 15, 2012, 09:40 PM
Which model of ADL has a heavy barrel? Is this a custom barrel?

I've no personel experiece with the Choate stocks other than just handling them at gunshows and in gunshops. For me they are simply heavier than I want, but for using them off a shooting bench and not having to be mobile they might work for you. This is the same reason I'm not very fond of laminated wood stocks. The laminated stock in Skylerbones link is almost 5 lbs for just the stock.

I have used the HS-Precision stock before. They make a good stock. I don't think it is worth $100 more than the B&C stock though. But if they have one for an ADL then it would be an option I had forgotten about.

mcdonl
December 15, 2012, 09:44 PM
The model is the ADL Varmint.


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Skylerbone
December 15, 2012, 10:09 PM
The intended use is a 100 yard target rifle from a bench.

Heavier is better. Single loading is better.

Perhaps the stock upgrade should wait until you're ready for a Manners. $300 is good money, $500 is better but if you're undecided then allocate for Talley rings and you'll have the components to assemble and shoot. A stock upgrade can be chosen after you've put some rounds down range.

Swampman
December 16, 2012, 03:45 AM
I worked on a local SO's Remington 700 in .300 Win Mag equipped with the Choate Sniper stock. I can understand the desire for a bit of extra heft in a gun destined purely for bench shooting, but that thing is ridiculous!
I can't imagine any .308 load that could be safely fired in a rifle requiring that much weight to tame the recoil.

Despite its weight, the stock still looked and felt cheap, I would NOT recommend that you get one.

mcdonl
December 16, 2012, 08:56 AM
Swampman. Very convincing. Thank you. Time to reconsider my budget.

nastynatesfish
December 16, 2012, 10:46 AM
Id look at a bobby hart LRT. I got mine from eBay for 180. It's a short action on mine, I put a CDIpresicion bottom metal on it and had it inletted for the metal
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w369/tabascoman79/D95DF9BC-19CF-4326-90E3-04299EE94889-22116-000010570DC02065.jpg
Or you can get a stocky stock thumb hole varminter like this one on my old 308
http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w369/tabascoman79/6717076D-D2D4-41F7-82A3-2E314DF2210B-22116-0000107D76B9A83D.jpg
They are both really nice and comfortable stocks. Not horrible expensive either

LeonCarr
December 16, 2012, 12:42 PM
I have the Choate Tactical Stock on my 700 PSS .308 and like it alot. It is heavy due to the full length aluminum bedding and heavy injection molded construction, but it helps control recoil and is virtually indestructible. Not a rifle I would take on an alpine sheep hunt but from the bench, blind, or prone it is the king.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Pacsd
December 16, 2012, 08:11 PM
HS precision does make stocks for ADLs. They are right down the road from mew and both owner and salesman are members at the golf course I work at. I had they fit my ADL 2 years ago. I like it.

Skylerbone
December 16, 2012, 09:24 PM
Yes, second link, post #8.

TIMC
December 16, 2012, 10:31 PM
I rebuilt this old model 700 .308 a couple years ago, one of the most accurate rifles I own. I used a Hogue DM stock with full aluminum bed block then bedded the action, I also installed a 26" Shilen barrel, Timney trigger and surgeon bottom metal, mine was an ADL that I converted. The bottom metal was about $350. I topped it off with Night force steel rings, Picatinny rail and a Leupold VX3 6.5-20x50mm scope.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Remngton700pic2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Remington700scopepic1.jpg

mcdonl
December 17, 2012, 11:23 AM
Well... I am seriously considering the Choate USS stock. I planned to paint it, shoot it from a bench and keep the ADL a blind setup... It lends itself well to that. Thanks everyone for your input. I have no ruled out a hogue stock but I like what I read about the USS...

Would this change my scope ring selection? Assuming I have the Choate USS what should I consider when mounting my Nikon Buckmasters to it?

allaroundhunter
December 17, 2012, 12:17 PM
Thats a bummer, I really liked that B&C Tactical Stock but it looks like a short action, ADL is a no go with that stock.

Mcdonl, are you sure your ADL is not a short action?...

mcdonl
December 17, 2012, 12:20 PM
It is a short action, but the stocks I wanted and could afford from B&C do not support the ADL platform.

mcdonl
December 19, 2012, 11:04 AM
So... now I am considering a Boyds stock. The price is great, I like the looks and I could have it bedded (Or do it myself in the future)...

What do you guys think about that? I seem to have a lack of wood in my gun cabinet.

Will it be an upgrade over the remington plastic stock it comes with?

richie
December 19, 2012, 11:12 AM
I have 3 Rem.ADLs that I put Boyds stocks on, they all dropped in perfectly, no fitting was required.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/riche_01/DSCF0041_zpscfbce14d.jpg

mcdonl
December 19, 2012, 11:13 AM
Man they look good too. Have you needed to bed any of them?

Skylerbone
December 19, 2012, 11:26 AM
Not by much IMO. Buy once, cry once. No point in wasting money on a stock that simply doesn't lend itself well to your purpose.

mcdonl
December 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
Skylerbone, are there other wooden stocks that you feel are better? I love the look, just not sure about the accuracy as they are not bedded. It seems like pillar bedding is pretty straight forward and a good first step. Decisions, Decisions.

Skylerbone
December 19, 2012, 01:31 PM
One of these: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-614/*NEW%21*-Bobby-Hart-Long/Detail

With one of these: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-609/Remington-700-M4-BDL/Detail

$200 + $130 = $330. Find some of the picture threads or look around at bench style target rifles. The above will get you a laminate if you prefer the look and a BDL conversion for $30 more than your proposed budget for an ADL stock.

Honestly, for 100 yd. work I would encourage you to consider having a finished package to shoot and enjoy then save for a stock. With the exception of close outs, Stockys sale prices are year round. I have bought from them and am pleased with their service and products (not affiliated). You could always call and discuss your needs with them.

richie
December 19, 2012, 02:24 PM
"Man they look good too. Have you needed to bed any of them?"

No, they shoot good enough for me, I'm happy with the accuracy, all were drop in fits.
$99.00+shipping and all arrived in 3 days of ordering. Just drop your barreled action in and tighten screws.

mcdonl
December 20, 2012, 10:54 AM
One of these: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-614/*NEW%21*-Bobby-Hart-Long/Detail

With one of these: http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-609/Remington-700-M4-BDL/Detail

$200 + $130 = $330. Find some of the picture threads or look around at bench style target rifles. The above will get you a laminate if you prefer the look and a BDL conversion for $30 more than your proposed budget for an ADL stock.

Honestly, for 100 yd. work I would encourage you to consider having a finished package to shoot and enjoy then save for a stock. With the exception of close outs, Stockys sale prices are year round. I have bought from them and am pleased with their service and products (not affiliated). You could always call and discuss your needs with them.
Thanks everyone. I have some thinking to do. I appreciate all of your advice.

mcdonl
December 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
Trigger has been pulled. I was debating between the Choate USS, Choate Varmint and Boyd's.

Was just doing my price/review/spec check for the millionth time and the stock for SA ADL's is starting to go out of stock. I went with the USS in olive green. Can't wait to mount my barrel and nikon scope on it!!!

Darn... That's right, I need rings!!


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mcdonl
January 6, 2013, 11:44 AM
It is almost done for now.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/07/bezymuqe.jpg


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