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Fat Boy
December 15, 2012, 10:31 PM
I see 9mm guns now and again (Budsgunshop, JG sales, etc) as imported by CAI (Century Arms?) Right now they list a MAC 98 or MAG 98? They also list ARCUS guns that look like copies of the Browning Hi Power. JG Sales currently lists a Grand Power p1 mk 7-

These are typically less expensive than other 9mm's and I am curious about how much of a bargain these might be-

Also, if anyone knows which brands/models are better than others?

Thanks!

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Rockyriver
December 15, 2012, 10:35 PM
:barf:


http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/AR15%20Stuff/CenturyArms.jpg

Robbins290
December 15, 2012, 10:44 PM
I agree rocky river. Even tho the last ak I bought (3 months) ago was built right. I shoulda marked it on the calendar

TheGloriousTachikoma
December 15, 2012, 11:40 PM
Rocky...Century just imports them. They don't touch them aside from an electric pencil. My CZ-85 pre-b was brought in by them and is in petty good condition. There's a new SN EP'ed on the front strap of the grip and Their boilerplate EP'ed between the CZ SNs on the frame and slide.

scar_47
December 15, 2012, 11:59 PM
My understanding is that Century just imports the weapons so anything being imported whole is going to be fine, most issues I've heard of stem from imported parts kits that Century outsources the builds on, since these different builders have varying degrees of skill you can get anything from a superb example to a POS may never run right. So whole weapons should be fine and I personally wouldn't risk a parts kit weapon without being able to examine it in person.

ifit
December 16, 2012, 03:30 AM
its so funny nowadays with technology and more info for the masses at their finger tips, just cause they hear century arms the always post the dumb picture, which has been discussed a million times w/thier aks..never heard of century arms building a pistol from a parts kit....LOL. back on topic

fat boy, i have purchased canik sting ray-c (chrome) and the full size grand power mk-7, sting ray-c another copy of the cz compact pistols but for $369 with all the features it offers it cant be beat. as for the mk-7 the prices droped i would seriously think about this one cause its one of those sleepers in this polymer pistol world. gonna update my old post w/mk7 after adjusting the rear sight. some pics of the pistols
sting ray-c
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg544/sr16ve2/212fefb2.jpg
http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg544/sr16ve2/013.jpg

trickyasafox
December 16, 2012, 11:16 AM
I know other people have had horror stories of Century builds, but I've owned 3 'CIA' kit guns and never had a problem. I'd say go for it. Especially if these are imported whole- which I believe CIA also imported my CZ-82, which has been completely fine. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think they also imported my PA-63, which is also fine.

Stringfellow
December 16, 2012, 03:14 PM
Yeah, that picture is funny, but in a snarky kind of way.

I can't speak for any of their "builds", but I appreciate the stuff they import--especially the brands with great potential (e.g., Canik and Grand Power).

Rockyriver
December 16, 2012, 09:45 PM
If Century Arms has their name on a gun, chances are its a lower end type gun.
I'm not saying its on the bottom of the totem pole like a Hi-Point but its about mid way on a scale or a little less.
Yes I know you guys with guns that are marked imported by CAI are going to cry you have a great gun, but face it its not a SIG or H&K or FNH.

dallascj
December 16, 2012, 10:12 PM
Century is an importer. I just bought a Beretta Vertec 96 through Gunbroker that was imported by Century. It was a foreign police trade in.

ifit
December 17, 2012, 12:31 AM
Rocky river, we know its a great gun for the price, nobodys cryin here..were all adults. sure it aint no Sig/HK/FN but i will gladly put it up against those top dollar pistols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxHIKfyFuDU
did i mention theres the happry trigger model k105r
tha man himself Mr. Jaroslav Kurcina:cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgKNbprfSI

Paul7
December 18, 2012, 12:06 PM
I've got a Century Arms A1 5.56 that is my favorite AR, works great.

wojownik
December 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
The Mag 98 is a Polish service pistol (prison guards, etc), and is fairly well balanced and accurate - and pretty darn durable.

Good pistol overall, should come with 2 mags (15 round). For IDPA, though, you'll likely find that you want more mags than that, so look into mag availability (yes, you can compete with two mags, but I go with up to 8 mags to save time futzing around with reloading mags when I could be helping out with other things).

The P1 Mk7 is based on a Slovak military pistol. I am looking at that one myself. But, again for IDPA, make sure you can get enough magazines.

Don't know much about the Arcus.

Regarding other comments on Century, I concur that Century is fine as a simple importer of product, but they have churned out some questionably quality stuff over the years when they contracted out to some shops here in the U.S. that built up firearms from parts, or substantially modified the imported version (as in the early Tantal barrel fiasco, the out-of-spec Golani's, bolt gap issues on C93's and so forth). On the other hand, some other Century-built product has been OK.

bensdad
March 31, 2013, 05:24 PM
Don't know much about the Arcus.

I know a little. Got one at Fleet Farm a few weeks ago. So far, about 500 rds. through it. Zero issues. The finish is crap, the trigger is average, the ergos are pretty ok, the accuracy is good, and the reliability (granted it's only been 500) is perfect.

It's an all-steel gun. BHP clone. Cheap as heck (about $300new). Fits perfect in a Bianchi thumb-break I had layin around.

ETA: Granted it doesn't prove anything about reliability, but if you shoot is stationary, you could cover your spent casings with a pillowcase. It seems to be doing the exact same thing every time I pull the trigger.

YZ
March 31, 2013, 06:06 PM
I know a little. Got one at Fleet Farm a few weeks ago. So far, about 500 rds. through it. Zero issues. The finish is crap, the trigger is average, the ergos are pretty ok, the accuracy is good, and the reliability (granted it's only been 500) is perfect.

It's an all-steel gun. BHP clone. Cheap as heck (about $300new). Fits perfect in a Bianchi thumb-break I had layin around.

ETA: Granted it doesn't prove anything about reliability, but if you shoot is stationary, you could cover your spent casings with a pillowcase. It seems to be doing the exact same thing every time I pull the trigger.
It is Bulgarian.

Ash
March 31, 2013, 08:58 PM
Funny, I own a Ruger Police Service Six in .357, a Swiss-made ITM AT-84, a CZ-75, and a SIG P6, all were imported by Century. So, SIG, Ruger, CZ...well, they are used guns, though some are quite rare.

As far as new guns, Century also imports Zastava pistols, which are excellent guns. They also imported Republic Arms pistols from South Africa. Arcus pistols have had a good reputation, as have others. Remember the HS-2000? It was a real nobody pistol, right? That is, it was until Springfield Armory slapped their name on it, called it the XD, and the rest is history. Many of the pistols Century imports lack an established importation channel, otherwise they'd be better received.

wally
March 31, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nothing wrong with Century *imports* Its when they assemble parts kits on US made receivers that things get dicey.

wojownik
April 1, 2013, 02:09 PM
Nothing wrong with Century *imports* Its when they assemble parts kits on US made receivers that things get dicey.
This, for the most part. The Mag 98 is a Polish manufactured pistol, robust and reasonably accurate. No monkey shenanigans from Century on imports like these. I've got a good number of milsurp items that were imported by Century - no complaints (though I've stopped even with Century imports due to the monster-sized billboard import mark they've been putting on their products over the past few years. The old stuff had a tiny mark, simetimes just a little C.A.I imprinted in an unobtrusive area. Not any more, the markings are very much "in your face".

As far as products that Century (re)constructs (i.e. has subcontractors assemble from kits, etc), their track record has been very uneven. I generally won't even look at a Century build.

mgmorden
April 2, 2013, 09:32 AM
Yes I know you guys with guns that are marked imported by CAI are going to cry you have a great gun, but face it its not a SIG or H&K or FNH.

I need to check my SIG P6. It might have actually been imported by CAI . . .

wojownik
April 2, 2013, 05:14 PM
I need to check my SIG P6. It might have actually been imported by CAI . . .
LOL - same here - two Sig Sauer P6 pistols, imported by Century

as well as several Maks imported by Century, two Luger P.08s imported by Century ... Mosins, Mausers, etc. etc.

Again, as a straight importer, they've done OK (aside from the aforementioned importer stamps, which have grown ridiculously over the years). As an assembler/manufacturer/builder, then caveat emptor ...

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