Your opinions on two CCWs


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gator1gear
December 16, 2012, 06:56 PM
I will be picking up a new CCW this week, and I'm just about narrowed down to the Bersa BP9cc and the Beretta Nano with a slight lean toward the Bersa. I will be carrying in an OWB slide type holster. There's one more out there that creeps into my thoughts every now and then, and that's the Sig P250 subcompact. Anyway, just wanted to see what you guys think and read any suggestions you may have. Oh yeah, I already have a Glock 27, and XD9sc. The newbie will also serve as double duty for when I'm out cycling.

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hardluk1
December 16, 2012, 07:17 PM
You are the only one that can really deside. Seeing you own a can a compact with the g27 and a larger xdsc If you need a smaller pistol for cycling how a bout a reall light weight like pf-9 or p11 or maybe a cm9 for truely a smaller handgun instead.

Plan2Live
December 16, 2012, 07:31 PM
Seeing you own a can a compact with the g27 and a larger xdsc Huh?
Overal Length
G-27 6.29"
XDsc 6.25"

Height
G-27 4.17" (measured without the common magizine extensions)
XDsc 4.75"

I would say that's about a draw.

MICHAEL T
December 16, 2012, 09:11 PM
Bersa !

gator1gear
December 16, 2012, 09:50 PM
Michael T, I had one in my hands at the gun shop today, and just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger ( pun intended) I went back and forth between the BP9cc and the Nano. If I have more than one choice, that's one too many LOL! I have a Thunder40UC and it has been solid!

MedWheeler
December 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
I really like the look and feel of the Bersa . Never fired one, though, and never handled the Beretta.

bannockburn
December 17, 2012, 06:20 AM
I checked out the Nano last year when I was looking for an ultra compact 9mm. While I liked its design and overall size it just didn't feel as good in my hand as a comparable Kahr did. So I would say go with the one that feels the best to you.

wally
December 17, 2012, 01:47 PM
IMHO, try to find some way to try shooting them first, how they "feel" is only tangentially related to how they actually shoot for you, especially with sub-compacts.

PabloJ
December 17, 2012, 01:54 PM
I will be picking up a new CCW this week, and I'm just about narrowed down to the Bersa BP9cc and the Beretta Nano with a slight lean toward the Bersa. I will be carrying in an OWB slide type holster. There's one more out there that creeps into my thoughts every now and then, and that's the Sig P250 subcompact. Anyway, just wanted to see what you guys think and read any suggestions you may have. Oh yeah, I already have a Glock 27, and XD9sc. The newbie will also serve as double duty for when I'm out cycling.
You already have two excellent pistols which is good because everyone needs two. I would not throw money away by buying next one.

gator1gear
December 17, 2012, 05:52 PM
I would like something a little thinner to hide under my "fruity" little cycling clothes (there I said it):eek:

Dmath
December 17, 2012, 06:16 PM
I have two of the tiny ninies, as they are being called, a Kel-tec P11 and a Ruger LC9. Either would serve as a self-defense gun, and either would ride very comfortably on the hip in an OWB holster. I think a bigger gun would get bulkier and heavier than I would like for myself.

Also, "CCW" usually refers to the license to carry. How are you using the term?

gator1gear
December 17, 2012, 10:10 PM
I am a licensed to carry, but I'm using the term CCW to refer to Concealed Carry Weapon. I know that it's hard to tell if someone is being a smart aleck from a forum post so PLEASE know that I'm not being smart, but I've always used the acronym CCW to shorten Concealed Carry Weapon. Am I missing something? In Georgia, the license is a GFL...Georgia Firearms License.

Dmath
December 17, 2012, 10:27 PM
I am a licensed to carry, but I'm using the term CCW to refer to Concealed Carry Weapon. I know that it's hard to tell if someone is being a smart aleck from a forum post so PLEASE know that I'm not being smart, but I've always used the acronym CCW to shorten Concealed Carry Weapon. Am I missing something? In Georgia, the license is a GFL...Georgia Firearms License.
No, sorry; I did not mean to sound like a jerk. I'm in Minnesota, and we don't have an abbreviation like that to refer to the gun that's carried. The common usage I hear nationwide is "In states where they have CCW" or "Ever since I got a CCW." In other words, it usually seems to stand for "Carry a Concealed Weapon."

gator1gear
December 18, 2012, 12:09 AM
You didn't sound like a jerk at all. I hope I didn't come across that way either. I was just wondering if I was off base with the way I was using the term.

C0untZer0
December 18, 2012, 02:05 AM
It doesn't make sense to me to get guns that are basically the same dimension and weight.

Unless you just getting guns - which I definately do.

But from a pragmatic point of view, it doesn't make sense to me to get a pistol that's only marginally smaller than what you already have and basically in the same class.

If I thought I needed something smaller for back up then I'd really go small like a PM9/CM9 or Rohrbaugh R9.

If weight is not a concern then the MK9 is a great little gun too - all steel 9mm slightly smaller than the PM9/CM9, but of course heavier.

armsmaster270
December 18, 2012, 02:10 AM
I am partial to Sig's

hardluk1
December 18, 2012, 12:26 PM
gator buy db9 or pf-9 or cm9 and go peddle'n. Nothing will be that much smaller till you get to the micro pistols then buy a taurus TCP 380. Kinda foolish to look at pistol in the same weight and size range.

The Lone Haranguer
December 18, 2012, 04:55 PM
I wish I could recommend the Bersa, but the one I had displayed some reliability problems with double-feeds. As a thin holster gun it really has a lot going for it. I don't have personal experience with it, just picking it up off a gun show table, but the S&W M&P Shield is a nice feeling gun of about the same size that is getting very good reviews.

gator1gear
December 18, 2012, 06:13 PM
The guns I'm looking at are not in the same weight and size range. The Bp9cc or the Nano are significantly thinner and lighter than either my Glock or XD. I will definitely give the CM9 another look. The M&P Shield are like Bigfoot around here, we all hear about sightings, but no proof.

needmorecowbell
December 18, 2012, 08:56 PM
Agree with the CM9 recommendations.

golfer_ray
December 18, 2012, 11:57 PM
I have the Bersa. It fits in my large hands well. I've had one FTE in 300 rounds of breaking it in. The mags can be tough to eject, & it's not fun to clean, but I had reliability issues with a Kahr, & this hits the target as well or better than the Kahr. It's my CCW & I plan on keeping it.

hardluk1
December 19, 2012, 08:06 AM
gator1gear. You may want to look again at size and weights of the bp9. It weight 21.5oz is longer at 6.6" and taller at 4.8" only skinner by 1/8th".

Yea the nano compaired to the g27 is a bit shorter by 1/2" but the same height it is almost 1/8th inch narrower but with in 1oz of the weight of the glock 27 when the mag in each is installed. Some companies advetrtise weight now with out the mag so they pass them off as lighter than they really are. Don't believe weight or check berreta's own sight. Nano also has a heavyer trigger by a few pounds pull weight than the glock.

Now for the person wanting smaller if the sheild is on your want list also look at the kahr CW9 as it is smaller and lighter than the sheild but nowt quit as small as the cm9 and the p11 and pf9 and db9 are smaller yet

WinThePennant
December 19, 2012, 08:44 AM
A lot of people LOVE that Sig P250 subcompact as their CC gun. I have the full size as my night stand gun.

jim243
December 19, 2012, 11:05 AM
Which one can you shoot better??? Having a gun with is the first rule, but if you can't hit the side of a barn with it, what good is it to you??

I have gotten away from the 2 1/2 and 3 inch guns (all sold) and wnet with the CZ 75 P-01 9mm (3.8). I did keep my Bersa 380 it has been the most accurate with it's fixed barrel design.

Jim

pat701
December 19, 2012, 01:22 PM
You better make up your mind and get something SOON! I like SIG.

beatledog7
December 19, 2012, 01:30 PM
My opinion on two CCWs is that two is probably all you can reasonably manage at any one time and should suffice.

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