Taylor's sale on 1860 sheriff


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wheelyfun66
December 16, 2012, 08:07 PM
Hey All,
Was just dreaming over on the Taylors & Co website, and noticed an incredible sale on the Pietta 1860 Sheriff model.
$199. Holiday sale:
http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/holiday-specials/1860-army-sheriff-steel-frame-44-half-fluted-cylinder-with-free-black-powder-cylinder.html

Love to have one of these, along with a conversion cylinder....:p

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Malachi Leviticus Blue
December 16, 2012, 08:57 PM
Wow, nice deal, and it includes a FREE spare cylinder

Tommygunn
December 17, 2012, 12:42 AM
NICE!
But a FIVE shot .44 caliber Sheriff? This is not historically correct.

But it IS SURE PRETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Malachi Leviticus Blue
December 17, 2012, 10:10 AM
She's a 6 shooter

Crawdad1
December 17, 2012, 10:37 AM
I just ordered their '49 Pocket with conversion cylinder. Their guns are great and I still say that they inspect their revolvers before selling them and reject those that don't meet their standards. I buy from Taylor's exclusively regardless of price because I always get a revolver that is smooth as silk and functions flawlessly. And, more importantly, they're good people to deal with.

bdejong11129
December 17, 2012, 11:01 AM
Stop, please stop with all these temptations.. My gun credit card is smoking already... That place is very cool. Thanks for sharing this one. I am new to the older classic gun scene. I recently bought my first single action army style revolver and I am hooked..

Disclaimer-this is my opinion and yours may vary.

Tommygunn
December 17, 2012, 01:51 PM
She's a 6 shooter

Hmmmm. Looking carefully at the cylinder as pictured it sure LOOKS like a five shooter.* The specs do say six shot. Both can't be right though.
Wonder what is going on here . . . . . . .

*Look at the configuration carefully. The hammer is down on a chamber. About 1/3 the way down you see a nipple where another chamber is located. The third is partially hidden by the frame. This hallmarks a five shot C&B gun. A six shot would have two clear nipples on the side as long as the hammer was down on a nipple at the top.

Prairie Dawg
December 17, 2012, 01:57 PM
Just ordered a pair.
Thanks for the heads-up!
--Dawg

Claude Clay
December 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
perhaps the pictured fluted cylinder is 5 chambered ( it sure looks like it is)
and the "free" BP unfluted cylinder is 6 shots as noted in the specs.

Tommygunn
December 17, 2012, 02:20 PM
You devilish snake-oil selling trail-dust spewing, dirty-rotten-stinkers!!!
I had to buy one! Missed out on a 1860 with a full-fluted cylinder and DANG IT I will NOT miss out on this even though I've been trying to PAY DOWN MY CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT!!!

:cuss::cuss::cuss:

:what:

;)

Anyway I hear Taylors is a greta place to buy from!!!!:D

bdejong11129
December 17, 2012, 04:11 PM
OK, so I do not own any blackpowder guns. Is this a good one to have for your first one?

Disclaimer-this is my opinion and yours may vary.

Noz
December 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
I have shot a pair of Pietta 1860 Sheriffs for SASS for 3 years.

Just try to get them away from me!

unknwn
December 17, 2012, 05:32 PM
Thank you Wheelyfun66 for the heads-up on the Taylor's deal.
It will make a nice companion for the "62 .36 Police that I added to the display last month.
And, it helped me avoid the pair of '51s that Cabelas was dangleling before us last weekend.
(Gawd!, I really dislike those Pietta Navy grips!).
Another great thing about Taylor's that I discovered (and took advantage of!) is that they have a tremendous parts inventory. Along with the revolver, I was able to get every part on my list (and a few that VTI doesn't carry! for the same price & on some things even cheaper) and thier shipping costs were quite tolerable.
I think $10.01 to ground ship a revolver and what ended up being a$125.00 worth of bits & pieces was really fair. Being in the state next door doesn't hurt in that respect either though.

JohnnyCremains
December 17, 2012, 06:23 PM
Sure looks to me like the picture is wrong. The gun pictured looks to be an 1862 Police 36 cal 5 shot. Unless they made a bigger historically inaccurate version of one in 44 caliber.

Tommygunn
December 17, 2012, 08:14 PM
OK, so I do not own any blackpowder guns. Is this a good one to have for your first one?

It's a very good revolver. The only "strike" against it, IMHO, for a first BP gun is due to the short barrel, it may be a little harder to plunge the bullet down on the powder charge due to lack of leverage that you would have with a full length barrel.
But that doesn't mean it would be very hard or require Guido the Italian gunmaker gorilla (who is responsible for stamping in the Colt repro barrel wedges).

unknwn
December 17, 2012, 08:34 PM
To reduce the wear and tear on my C&B revolvers I pull the cylinders on ALL of the guns and reload on a cylinder loading press like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-BLACKPOWDER-CAP-BALL-CYLINDER-LOADER-/170947245215?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D4230692321018886659%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D170929489928%26

it not only keeps the loading rams from getting bent, and makes certain that I get a more reliable pressure & depth on each ball/chamber , but it keeps the cylinder arbor on my Colts from suffering from lateral stresses of loading in the frame = much longer gun frame life brassers AND steel frames included.

arcticap
December 18, 2012, 03:01 PM
Taylor's told me that if ordering on-line, their shipping calculator may not quote the correct amount for shipping, and that shipping could cost more.
They couldn't provide an exact shipping quote on the phone because it's determined by the actual weight of the package and Zip Code.
They also said that both cylinders have a 6 shot capacity.
That's one sweet deal on a fluted Colt 1860 Sheriff.

Prairie Dawg
December 18, 2012, 03:48 PM
Cost $10.01 to ship a pair to Ohio.
Hard to beat that.

I also use a cylinder loader.
Mine is from Powder Inc.
http://http://www.blackdawgecartridge.com/catalog/bd_cyl_loader.html

Had it for years.
Works great with Colts, Remmies, & Rugers.
A fast way to load -- for me anyway.
--Dawg

Noz
December 18, 2012, 04:25 PM
Cut a piece of 1/2" plastic tubing to slip over the short loading lever. Works.

Tommygunn
December 19, 2012, 07:47 PM
UPDATE: December 19th, 2012 5:15PM Central Standard Time.

Just received via the Big Brown Truck the 5.5" Sheriff's model.
It is a very nice revolver, typical of Pietta's modern production. Pretty rich color case hardening, brass TG & BS as advertised. It is stated to have the 1860 Army size grip but has the Navy size.
The answer to the questions arising from the photo on Taylors site has been answered. The photo there showed a cylinder that looked to be five shot and fluted like the 1862 Police model, which is nice, but never seen on the 1860.
What actually comes on the revolver is a standard 6 shot .44 caliber (as advertised) 1860 Army cylinder which is fluted in the manner seen commonly on the 1873 Colt Peacemaker. Pietta has made this cylinder available on some of ther regular 1860 Army models with an 8" barrel & Steel backstrap. It is thought by some to be non authentic to what Colt produced during the time it was making the original flavor of this model, but in fact Colt DID produce a revolver fluted like this. They were apparantly quit rare and had to be special ordered this way.
BTW, as advertised it does come with the spare non fluted cylinder. Surprisingly it is free of any engraved scenes and is marked "Spare cylinder for Navy Cal. 44 our code A341." Oh, this is printed on the box NOT ON THE CYLINDER ITSELF. It IS the correct .44 caliber size.
I wonder if the gun in the Taylor's photo was some production prototype. The wierdest thing about it to me was the five shot configuration which would have been rather odd for this gun....and require somewhat altered internals, especially the pawl.
But in any case I am pleased with what I have, it is a very nice looking gun and even the shiny smooth-surfaced nonfluted spare cylinder should give it an unusual look.

ozarkguy
December 19, 2012, 09:12 PM
If you get a chance, would you post a pic or two?

Tommygunn
December 20, 2012, 12:07 AM
Tomorrow if I get a chance.

Tommygunn
December 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
OK, it's not a terrific picture, but here it is (I think):

Tommygunn
December 20, 2012, 11:33 AM
Ooooops. Sorry, double tap.

kbbailey
December 20, 2012, 09:17 PM
Looks like a pretty good deal to me.

Nice revolver tommygunn.

unknwn
December 21, 2012, 07:01 PM
I just got off the horn with a rep. from Taylor's to learn that thier software outsold the inventory as early as Monday noon.
I opted for a backorder, but was told not to expect fulfillment before the end of January.
She told me that there is a strike on the docks where Pietta exports thier goods and its a "who knows" about when that could clear up and allow the containers to trundle thier way to this side of the pond. Damn !
She also mentioned that there was a pretty fairly long list of folks to contact with the bad news....

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