Heavy recoil ?


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tahoe2
December 19, 2012, 01:21 AM
"Classic" stock design or "Monte Carlo" style to handle heavy recoil ?
Like 9.3x62 mauser, 375 H&H, 405 Winchester, 450 Marlin, 450/400 Jeffry etc...
I'm thinking 9.3 or 405 Winny, the others are up for comparison.
I have noticed the Ruger No. 1 has a "Classic" style stock, and have heard many reports that they don't kick too bad.
True or False?

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Dr. Sandman
December 19, 2012, 12:32 PM
Will you please rephrase your question? I am confused.

adelbridge
December 19, 2012, 01:47 PM
any given cartridge has a measurable amount of recoil usually in the 15lb-40lb range. You can lessen felt recoil with a heavier rifle or a semi auto action. Stock design is going to do little to lessen felt recoil. I have heard of raised stock profiles recoiling into the shooters face but I have never experienced that.

urbaneruralite
December 19, 2012, 02:31 PM
There are variations your query does not take into account. A straight stock with minimal drop will direct more recoil straight back, making recoil more manageable and staying on target easier if maintain your shooting form between shots.

A sort of direct comparison would be the Weatherby Mark V and Browning ABolt. I have owned both in a .300 Magnum. The Browning was easier to ride and shoot consistently. The Weatherby left my shoulder less sore.

Flatbush Harry
December 19, 2012, 02:37 PM
I put my Rem 700 XCR II in .375 H&H into a B&C Medalist sporter of Weatherby design. It has a Monte Carlo and a castoff to allow good cheek weld and directs recoil straight back and to the right, away from my head. It's quite comfortable and I like it.

BTW, the stock has to be inletted in the fore end because of the magnum barrel.

FH

CraigC
December 19, 2012, 03:16 PM
Stock design is going to do little to lessen felt recoil.
Stock design and more importantly, how it fits the shooter, has everything to do with felt recoil.

jmr40
December 19, 2012, 04:54 PM
Stock design is huge in dealing with recoil. Generally speaking the Monte Carlo design helps quite a bit for most people. I generally like the Classic style stock better, but I don't own any real heavy kickers. This was a big part of the Weatherby design when they develped their magnum chamberings.

The Classic style has more drop and allows the muzzle to rise up under recoil and the cheek piece is more likely to hit the cheek. The Monte Carlo brings recoil straight back and the shape of the comb allows the face to slide away from the stock instead of into it.

tahoe2
December 19, 2012, 11:16 PM
I am six foot tall and only 200 lbs, recoil can be an issue for me.
I have guns with Monte Carlo style and Classic designed stocks,
but they are on lesser caliber/low recoil rounds, and I don't have any issues with these.
example;

monte carlo - 8mm mauser, 7mm mauser

classic - 280 Remington, 300 Savage, 30-30 winchester

I did have a synthetic Rem 700 in 30-06 that pummeled me so I sold it, the stock was a classic style the rifle weighed 7lbs with a scope.

I would like to step up in caliber, possibly a 9.3x62 mauser or a 405 Winchester, but I don't want to dislocate my shoulder. LOL ...but seriously!

Coal Dragger
December 20, 2012, 12:51 AM
I have both styles, and as long as either one is well executed and well made they are both comfortable to me. Then again I am the prototypical average sized 5'10" right handed male, so just about everything fits me pretty well.

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