Let's use the Law against THEM
CaesarI
March 4, 2004, 04:06 AM
Anyone know the odds we could sue the VPC, or the Brady Bunch, or whomever for lobbying, on grounds that as non-profits they must avoid doing so? Even if we fail, they gotta pay lawyers.
Additionally, why not sue the prosecutors for the cities bringing the lawsuits against firearms manufacturers on grounds that they are trying to violate our civil rights. We wouldn't sue the minicipality, but the prosecutor, which we can do since he is violating our civil rights (otherwise he would be protected by virtue of being a government employee).
Shoot, I bet if we put our minds to it we could sue all sorts of'em for all sorts of reasons. Just gotta find a sympathetic judge.
-Morgan
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Slimjim
March 4, 2004, 05:30 AM
Too bad we cant sue them for passing laws that are unconstitutional. Or can we?
Pheonix
March 4, 2004, 08:18 AM
Can I sue the auto maker if I get into a car accident. Can I sue (insert name of a company who makes plates or silverware) for obesity or heart desiese or better yet "I Chipped my tooth on your fork!!" If the gun makers are responsible then every corporation in the world is responsible.
Eskimo Jim
March 4, 2004, 08:36 AM
Ceasar,
From my limited knowledge of the legal system, I believe that pretty much anyone can sue any other person or company for whatever reason you want. The problem is getting a judge to hear the case.
Your cost would be whatever the court charges for filing the case and possibly finding a lawyer to work up the paperwork.
That being said, I wonder how a series of small claims court cases against VPC and company would work.
Good luck.
-Jim
lee n. field
March 4, 2004, 08:51 AM
Anyone know the odds we could sue the VPC, or the Brady Bunch, or whomever for lobbying, on grounds that as non-profits they must avoid doing so?
The Million Myrmidon March got nailed on essentially that point.
cpileri
March 4, 2004, 08:55 AM
we have to pay our lawyers as well!
Maybe sue in civil court where the burden of proof is less, and therefore the likelihood of a cash-out-of-court settlement is greater?
Its pure BS in my opinion but I do agree that we should start using the dirty tactics against them.
I'll just wash up real good when its over.
C-
boofus
March 4, 2004, 12:19 PM
I think a good way to get them in trouble is the next time they pick up an 'assault weapon' to demonstrate how evil they are. You slip in a NFA registered machinegun onto the table and report it 'stolen'. Then the next time Feinswine picks up the AK she is now in possession of an unregistered machinegun. She goes to federal-pound-you-in-the-??? prison for 10 years and leaves us alone in the meantime. :scrutiny:
Lol I came up with this scheme when someone that went on one of those open-carry marches in Ohio said some stupid anti kept trying to take his holstered handgun. Be funny if a bunch of them idiots went to the pen for violating the NFA for snatching your MAC10 or silenced Beretta 92 out of your pocket. :p
MBG
March 4, 2004, 12:31 PM
Might be a RICO case, if they are coordinating too much on the junk lawsuits.
Along the lines of unlawful extortion.
I’ve bounced this idea against a few lawyer type friends, but have not completely fleshed it out yet. I think it would be tough to get any DOJ to pursue it.
Marty
Battler
March 4, 2004, 12:52 PM
We don't have the same latitude to sue as they do.
The big lawsuits against the industry are backed by the taxing power of city/state governments.
If you sue, you have to pay the lawyers yourself, not with the "rent" from a shopping mall.
cpileri
March 4, 2004, 12:56 PM
must be a pro-2A pro bono lawyer around here somewhere...
I don't know any but mathematically the possibility exists.
C-
Zedicus
March 4, 2004, 01:07 PM
Wish I could Sue the Local Goverment here for supplying water with such a High Acidity that it ruined my teeth...:(
I could Try, but I Seriously doubt I would get anywhere...:rolleyes:
patentnonsense
March 4, 2004, 01:15 PM
There was indeed a case where one of the advocacy groups, which was pursuing a pattern of baseless litigation, was hit with a big judgement - late 80s I think, in Florida, but I don't recall the parties.
NRA is doing some good pro bono litigation - I wish they'd pick this up.
And if you multiply the premium added to the price of guns due to BS litigation activities times the number of guns sold, I think you get a pretty good total number.
I'm pro-2A, but don't have the resources or competence to launch this sort of campaign.
braindead0
March 4, 2004, 01:39 PM
Hmm, here's a crazy idea... perhaps not legal..perhaps so...
What if 1000 gun owners sued VPC in small claims all over the U.S.? And kept doing so, over and over and over again. It costs very little to file a small claims case, you don't need to be a lawyer, if they don't show up you win. Least of all it would nibble away at their time and finances.
Or would this qualify as a consipiracy?
:evil:
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