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mljdeckard
December 19, 2012, 08:03 PM
Within a few hours of KSL shutting down gun ads, a couple of friends of mine had this up and running. Help them get some momentum.

http://utahgunexchange.com/

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splattergun
December 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
And let KSL.com and Deseret Media know that yo do not approve of their decison. I did.

I will not conduct business with that organisation until they see the error of their ways.

SuperNaut
December 19, 2012, 10:07 PM
Noice!

rspeters
December 19, 2012, 10:50 PM
Dang KSL for doing that. It literally happened as I was on there looking at guns. One second there was a bunch there, the next minute they were all gone. I was not happy.

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The Grand Baboon
December 20, 2012, 02:05 AM
Way to go, mljdeckard. That's wonderful. I'll sure be using that service.

mljdeckard
December 20, 2012, 08:41 AM
Even if you have nothing to sell, throw up a "want to buy" ad for an accessory or something.

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 20, 2012, 10:06 AM
You should tell your buddies that if they are going to "borrow" Gunbroker's user agreement, they should try a little harder than just doing a search and replace to update it.

From: http://utahgunexchange.com/user-agreement/


You may revoke your authorization by sending us a written request to UtahFirearmExchange.com, LLC, PO Box 2511, Kennesaw, Georgia, 30156. We may continue to bill your credit card or direct payment account for any fees for any services rendered or actions by you or by us taken prior to the receipt of your written revocation. Our billings may appear under the name “UtahFirearmExchange.com, LLC” or “UtahFirearmExchange.com.”


From http://www.gunbroker.com/user/UserAgreement.aspx:

You may revoke your authorization by sending us a written request to GunBroker.com, LLC, PO Box 2511, Kennesaw, Georgia, 30156. We may continue to bill your credit card or direct payment account for any fees for any services rendered or actions by you or by us taken prior to the receipt of your written revocation. Our billings may appear under the name “GunBroker.com, LLC” or “GunBroker.com.”

Emphasis mine, in both cases.

mljdeckard
December 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
That is certainly something worth mentioning. :)

mljdeckard
December 20, 2012, 10:35 AM
They said "oops". :)

Steve H
December 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
So far the site looks good. I hope it takes off in southern Utah as well as the SLC area.

Girodin
December 20, 2012, 02:04 PM
I used to browse the KSL ads for some friends in UT to apprise them of deals they may want to check out. I find KSL's actions absurd and plan to write them. When my friend told me about this last night I predicted someone would fill the void. Glad to see it happening so soon.

Help them get some momentum.

Just inform "the Clinton guy" that will get a few hundred listings. :)

I'll pass this on to the Utah folks I know.

Girodin
December 20, 2012, 02:09 PM
The only benefit to KSL being down was it may have discouraged people from panic buying with the intent of price gouging and profiteering if they didn't have a ready means to advertise their stuff. I see some ****** is already listing Pmags for $50 a pop.

mljdeckard
December 20, 2012, 03:05 PM
These guys are young, aggressive, and uncompromising. They plan to drive it as hard as they can.

I gave up on KSL a few months ago when their 'anonymous cop' started writing anti-gun editorials.

JHansenAK47
December 20, 2012, 06:00 PM
The only benefit to KSL being down was it may have discouraged people from panic buying with the intent of price gouging and profiteering if they didn't have a ready means to advertise their stuff. I see some ****** is already listing Pmags for $50 a pop.
I was down at impactguns down in ogden and noticed they had cut the price tags off the guns. I'm just glad that I bought everything that I needed before hand.

Steve H
December 20, 2012, 06:18 PM
I see some ****** is already listing Pmags for $50 a pop.

Now they are up to $60 :eek::eek:

Girodin
December 20, 2012, 11:24 PM
Is anyone buying at that price? It doesn't seem that they are. I sure hope so; I have 20 or so extras I'd happily sale for that. Of course I see people aren't even silly enough to buy the ones for $50 so why go to $60. Some other guy is asking $75, bawhahahahaha. I have extra Pmags I could sale and I wish they were worth $75 a pop or near 6X what they were selling for 3 days ago but they aren't. They are still being made and shipped to sellers. Another guy is asking $100. :rolleyes: These people are kidding themselves.

mljdeckard
December 20, 2012, 11:45 PM
That's the beautiful thing about free markets. You will find out really fast how stupid you really are. :)

BearGriz
December 21, 2012, 12:13 AM
Just inform "the Clinton guy" that will get a few hundred listings. :)

Funny, and true.

I remember a while ago when there were plenty of people complaining about Sierra Guns (aka the Clinton guy), but I found that company to be a good resource (they stock a lot of firearms, great variety, and pretty good prices). It seems like it was the guys trying to sell one or two privately held used guns who resented Sierra's hundreds of ads (ads they had to paid for, but I'll admit that they did "bump" the ads way too frequently sometimes).

What is NOT funny is how knee-jerk reactions like this by KSL have the potential to ruin lives and livelihoods. AFAIK, Raymond & Co. there at Sierra relied on two forms of marketing: Gun Shows and KSL. Perhaps that isn't a sound business plan to put all your eggs in two baskets, but it was a strategy that worked for a guy running a business out of his house. Situations like this with KSL worry and sadden me.

The tragedy was so horrific. Words can't describe how sad it still makes me.

I just wish it had never happened. I also wish these poor decisions by business and political leaders would stop.

Edited to fix a typo.

The Grand Baboon
December 21, 2012, 01:40 AM
Even though I resent KSL's decision to remove the firearms section I can see their desire to remove themselves from any sort of legal retribution if something terrible where to happen here in Utah. It's not that they are making any statement about the 2A, rather just let someone else who's sole priority is providing such a service do the legwork and a more professional job.

I didn't like the KSL classifieds anyway. Their search engine was poor, cluttered, clunky, and often brought up completely irrelevant items. To be honest this is what I was hoping for, it's just that there were too many people using KSL in the first place.

Girodin
December 21, 2012, 01:43 AM
You will find out really fast how stupid you really are.

I'll make the bold prediction that if the dude trying to get $50 for one hasn't sold them then the guy asking $100 on the exact same site isn't going to get any bites. We will see.

mljdeckard
January 14, 2013, 05:19 PM
I just did a transaction, a very helpful gentleman in South Jordan hooked me up with some range brass.

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