Interesting - a bulletproof kid's packpack cannot be purchased by Conn. residents


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roscoe
December 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
According to CNN, bulletproof backpacks for kids are going like hotcakes. Yet, I just saw this on the Bulletblocker (maker of such kids' backpacks) site:

Residents of Connecticut are prohibited from buying Body Armor unless the sale is face to face (or unless the buyer is a police officer, Police Department, or military). We can't ship to Connecticut, or even accept credit cards billed there...

I am not necessarily advocating such a backpack, but it is ironic that the one thing that a kid might be able to have to help in a school shooting is illegal to buy online (and I can't imagine you can buy one in a store in Conn.) And, yes, I am aware IIIA is not going to stop a rifle round.

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mister_murphy
December 21, 2012, 10:34 AM
Rather tragic indeed, but such is life.

Seems they are proposing some new laws in Ct as well.

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/20/news/doc50d36e589462a039563574.txt

The two also want to expand the definition of assault weapons, which would cover the Bushmaster .223 M4 carbine rifle...

The two legislators also want to prohibit the sale and possession of any rifle, shotgun or pistol magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. Their proposal also would require registration, and the biennial renewal, of all firearms by model and serial number with state law enforcement officials...

They also would make it illegal to prohibit the storage of firearms and ammunition in a manner that allows access by persons under 18...

He thought a prohibitive 50 percent tax was probably illegal, registration was unnecessary and he asked how the state could stop sales on the Internet...

Who knows what will pass, or what other ideas they will come up with.

Dr. Sandman
December 21, 2012, 10:41 AM
bulletproof kid's packpack

That is a really good idea.

kalel33
December 21, 2012, 11:40 AM
That is a really good idea.

Not really. No kid has their backpack on them when sitting at a desk. Most backpacks are held in another room, only cover a part of the child, and wouldn't have done anything in the Newtown shooting because it doesn't stop .223 rounds.

MedWheeler
December 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
This would take a lot of training.


Imagine trying to get twenty-five first-graders to run to the pack-rack, grab their backpacks, and put them on before fleeing the classroom.

I still like the Israeli idea better.

gc70
December 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
Is it a surprise that a state with an AWB also limits body armor? Body armor controls are another item on the gun control wish list representing a knee-jerk reaction to an object involved in some incident. Somebody, somewhere misused body armor, so the legislature had to 'do something' about body armor.

Too bad body armor is now limited for the citizens of Connecticut who might want it for self defense, but that is the price they chose to pay to be made 'safe' by gun control laws.

Bubbles
December 21, 2012, 12:28 PM
No kid has their backpack on them when sitting at a desk.
Maybe not at your kid's school. When I was at a class party for my daughter earlier this year, the backpacks were all hanging from each child's chair.

ETA: That said, if my believe that my child needs a bullet-resistant backpack at school, I'm pulling her out and homeschooling.

M-Cameron
December 21, 2012, 12:36 PM
Another thing to note is have you seen how kids treat their backpacks...

They toss them around, write all over them, get them wet, lose them and generally treat them poorly......All of which is not good for the ballistic material.

And I can't see many parents shelling out several hundred dollars every few years for something that has almost 0 chance of ever needing to be used.

Twiki357
December 21, 2012, 11:14 PM
Those backpacks are another knee jerk reaction to make parents feel good. In the pictures I saw on the news, they didn't look big enough to do much good unless a 5 year old can be taught to hold it between a assailant and themselves.

I think that a lot of the body armor prohibitions came about after the B of A shoot out in North Hollywood , CA.

Texan Scott
December 22, 2012, 12:24 AM
Imagine trying to get twenty-five first-graders to run to the pack-rack, grab their backpacks, and put them on before fleeing the classroom.

I still like the Israeli idea better.

Imagine the teacher hearing shots and shouting "DANGER DANGER DANGER!" whereupon 25 first graders get small under their desks, just like the drills, and the teacher covers behind her desk and trains her Beretta nano on the classroom door....

Yeah, me too.

TRX
December 22, 2012, 12:06 PM
> And, yes, I am aware IIIA is not going to stop a rifle round.

If it slows it down enough to turn a trip to the morgue to a trip to the hospital, that's enough for me.

mgkdrgn
December 22, 2012, 02:21 PM
Those backpacks are another knee jerk reaction to make parents feel good. In the pictures I saw on the news, they didn't look big enough to do much good unless a 5 year old can be taught to hold it between a assailant and themselves.

I think that a lot of the body armor prohibitions came about after the B of A shoot out in North Hollywood , CA.
+1 on that

Please show me any kid, anywhere, at any time, ever, who's life has been saved by a "bullet proof" backpack.

Just a great idea for separating liberal sheeple from their money.

AirForceShooter
December 22, 2012, 02:54 PM
Get in your car and drive to another state to get one.
If you think's it going to make your kid safer do it.

AFS

Lost Sheep
December 22, 2012, 03:33 PM
Twiki-357, MedWheeler,

First-graders are pretty smart. They know they can hide behind things. If your 5-year old knows a backpack has the potential to stop or slow down a bullet, you bet they will hold it between themselves and a threat.

The trick is to keep them from losing it (short attention span in addition to their developing intelligence), abusing it (as M-Cameron said) or depending TOO MUCH on it.

There are other bulletproof materials that would probably be more resistant to abuse than kevlar. I recall at least one law enforcement agency has "bulletproof" clipboards for their patrol officers. (This was before the wide availability of body armor.) When approaching a vehicle in a traffic stop a 10"x12" rectangle gives pretty good coverage, considering the threat generally is limited to the car window only. Cheap, unobtrusive, non-threatening and provided a writing surface for the traffic ticket.

I don't know how heavy a 10" x 14" piece of the same material used in body armor for the "trauma plate" chest insert would be, but as a child grew out of one backpack, it could easily transfer to the next year's backpack.

Now, the idea of adding another 10 pounds to a middle-schooler's already too-heavy load of textbooks does not appeal to me. Not when the threat of a bullet is less than the danger from most other threats.

Lost Sheep

LiENUS
December 24, 2012, 03:41 PM
> And, yes, I am aware IIIA is not going to stop a rifle round.

If it slows it down enough to turn a trip to the morgue to a trip to the hospital, that's enough for me.
TRX,
Looks like it wont come anywhere near turning a morgue trip into a hospital trip. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_3.htm

Derek Zeanah
December 24, 2012, 04:16 PM
Looks like it wont come anywhere near turning a morgue trip into a hospital trip. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_3.htm
OK, I don't want anyone to complain about the ads here ever again.

That was horrible.

M-Cameron
December 24, 2012, 04:22 PM
There are other bulletproof materials that would probably be more resistant to abuse than kevlar. I recall at least one law enforcement agency has "bulletproof" clipboards for their patrol officers. (This was before the wide availability of body armor.) When approaching a vehicle in a traffic stop a 10"x12" rectangle gives pretty good coverage, considering the threat generally is limited to the car window only. Cheap, unobtrusive, non-threatening and provided a writing surface for the traffic ticket.

thinkgeek sells bulletproof clipboards that can resist a 9mm handgun....

if you are really concerned, ide imagine you could keep that in your kids bag....coupled with a text book or two that would provide a pretty decent level of protection...if you were to go the "bullet proof back pack" route, i think that would be the most durable and economical..

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e769/

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