Best shotgun characteristic for bird and deer?


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Orion8472
December 21, 2012, 10:29 AM
A co-worker asked about her husband wanting to get a shotgun for both bird and deer. I'm not a hunter, and definitely not when it comes to using a shotgun for deer.

The bird hunting is easy. Shotgun 101, really. However, what is the best way to use a shotgun for deer? In my limited knowledge, I basically told her . . . "Remington 870 that has two barrels [one smooth, one rifled]". I have seen where a second rifled barrel will have a rail attachment on it for a scope, and assume that would be the best to use on deer, using sabots?

They have "deer slugs", I know, . . . which I believe are used in smooth bores, but am not sure if you would still want a scope, or just a good set of front and back irons.

Any knowledgeable replies would be appreciated.

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Arkansas Paul
December 21, 2012, 10:36 AM
I would not want a smoothbore for slugs. They do make rifled slugs for smoothbore barrels but the rifled barrels and saboted slugs are the cats meow. 150-200 yd shots are very doable with todays equipment and loads. That being said, I would definitely want a scope for shots that long.

Orion8472
December 21, 2012, 10:47 AM
Good word, Paul. :)

Arkansas Paul
December 21, 2012, 11:25 AM
http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-pump-action-500-combo/54243

Give her this link. It's a great, reliable gun and you get it with both barrels for less than $500. It has the integral scope mounting system too. Good deal for the money IMO.

Orion8472
December 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
Thanks Paul. That looks to be a great choice for him. :)

huntsman
December 21, 2012, 12:34 PM
A co-worker asked about her husband wanting to get a shotgun for both bird and deer.

IF he is only going to hunt birds a couple of times a year or they have limited means then a muti-barrel pump is the way to go BUT if he wants to really get into it then an o/u for birds and clays and a dedicated slug gun is the way to go.

Deer_Freak
December 21, 2012, 02:27 PM
A shotgun with 2 barrels solves that problem. Mossberg makes a 500 combo.

There is nothing wrong with a pump for shooting birds or sporting clays. Yes, two chokes does help a bit but the third shell is mighty handy as well. I shoot sporting clays with a 28 ga citori and a 500C. I do shoot better scores on a 100 shot course with the double barrel due to my health. the 28 ga is kind during a test of endurance. But just shooting skeet or trap there is no difference.

rcmodel
December 21, 2012, 02:42 PM
What part of the world is the deer hunting going to take place??

Hunting whitetails out of a tree stand in eastern Kansas at 20 yards?
A smoothbore bird gun barrel, Forster slugs, and the bead front sight is all you need.

Hunting Mulies in Western Kansas at 200 yards?
The rifled barrel, Sabot slugs, and a scope would be a necessity.

rc

RSVP2RIP
December 21, 2012, 08:16 PM
Hunting whitetails out of a tree stand in eastern Kansas at 20 yards?
A smoothbore bird gun barrel, Forster slugs, and the bead front sight is all you need.


I don't see any disadvantage to getting a rifled barrel for shots at 20 yards. But all things considered, while a smooth bore is all thats needed, he might not want to hunt in the same spot for the rest of his life. Also, a rifled tube can and will shoot foster/brenneke slugs just fine, but a smoothie will not shoot sabots well enough to hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.

jmr40
December 21, 2012, 11:49 PM
I assume this is for a shotgun only area. If so then I have nothing to add. Good advice above. But if in an area where rifles are allowed I'd skip the slug barrel altogether and add a rifle.

Uniquedot
December 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 with appropriate accessory barrels. One can choose between the quality of the Wingmaster or the economy of the Mossberg for example.

Virginian
December 22, 2012, 06:34 PM
I have a different take. Deer are easy, but the gun better fit right to kill birds. A good bird gun needs to come up naturally, and shoot were you are looking. When shooting like a rifle you have time to adjust and aim. A Mossberg or a Remington is made to fit a majority of people reasonably well. If he is far from average either way he may have an issue and need a gun with stock fit adjustment capabilities. They say average is approximately 5'-10". I'm 6'-1" (used to be 2" !) and can shoot either with no issues. Just food for thought.

Uniquedot
December 22, 2012, 06:48 PM
A Mossberg or a Remington is made to fit a majority of people reasonably well.

Either of the above can be fit to the shooter and Mossberg has made it easier with their flex system.

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