Is the Colt Python worth the $?


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Johnny Lightning
December 21, 2012, 01:40 PM
If I can hold groups like this at 25yrds w/ my gp100 is it still worth it to look at a Colt Python? I would shoot the python at the range mostly at 25 yrds.

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788Ham
December 21, 2012, 02:03 PM
Good shooting! Looks as if you've gotten things honed in. As far as buying a Python, maybe not, but have you ever driven a Bentley? I've got a 6" Python I've had for several years, premium firearm. I just picked up a S&W 15-4 about 3 weeks ago, very nice revolver, will it replace the Snake? No! But I now have that option when I choose to try something else. You'll more than likely get some various comments about the Snake, good, bad, indifferent, but those that have them will swear by them hands down. Its what one wants in firearms, just like different makes of automobiles, if you once shoot a Python for awhile, you might have some varying degrees on whether or not they're that good, worth that much money. IMHO.

smkummer
December 21, 2012, 02:08 PM
and they will show a preference to certain loads. Short and sweet.

PabloJ
December 21, 2012, 02:14 PM
No. The Colt equivalent is called 'King Cobra' not the 'Python'.

CajunBass
December 21, 2012, 02:18 PM
Probably not if you just want a 38/357 revolver. Most any of them will do if that's the case. Your Ruger is a good example. I doubt a Python will shoot any better.

You have to want a Python, because you want a Python. If that's the case, nothing else will scratch the itch. I know, because I've owned most of the others over the years. Ruger Speed/Service Six, Smith & Wesson 13, 19,27 and 28, Taurus 66. They were all good guns, but none of them were the Python I wanted back when I was 21 or so and you could walk into a gun store and expect to find a NIB Python, but, even then they cost a fair amount more than something else.

I finally got a Python about a month or so ago. It really didn't cost much more than something else, but I had to look for it, and (1) be there at the right time, and (2) be ready to strike when the iron was hot. It's got some finish wear, but mechanically is in great shape. Made in 1964, I gave $800.00 for it.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0469.jpg

Yea...it was worth it.

CraigC
December 21, 2012, 02:55 PM
Is the Colt Python worth the $?
Not to me but I do understand why it appeals to some folks. I'd rather spend my heavy coin on a nice single action.

PabloJ
December 21, 2012, 03:00 PM
Not to me but I do understand why it appeals to some folks. I'd rather spend my heavy coin on a nice single action.
They cost more now then second-hand Freedom Arms big-bore revolvers. It's 'Mitt Romney Style' kinda thing. IF you are curious (very doubtful) do Mitt Romney style Gangnam parody search on U-tube.

CraigC
December 21, 2012, 03:31 PM
Looked at one yesterday for $1400. I'd rather have a really nice single action or two nice S&W's.

Hammerdown77
December 21, 2012, 04:30 PM
$1400???!!! That's a DEAL! :)

f4t9r
December 21, 2012, 04:37 PM
One of the most beautiful pistols made. It is worth the money to me

4v50 Gary
December 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Buy a Python because you want one. If you're worried about being able to punch paper, you're doing fine with the GP-100.

BigJimP
December 21, 2012, 05:53 PM
Personally I'd rather have a S&W model 27 ...over any Python...or King Cobra / or a S&W model 29 over an Anaconda..../ primarily because the S&W's fit my hands better...

but are Colts worth the money ...sure.../ depends on what you want...

are the colts more accurate ...not in my hands...

ColtPythonElite
December 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
I doubt if your groups would be any tighter from switching gun makes....Is a Python worth the money? That depends on what the money is and what the Python is.

Kymasabe
December 21, 2012, 06:13 PM
OK, call me crazy, but check out the Rossi 851 revolver.
Looks alot like a python to me !

rcmodel
December 21, 2012, 06:27 PM
O.K.
You are crazy! :D

It might look like a python, but it most certainly isn't a Python, or even close.

rc

budman46
December 21, 2012, 07:28 PM
years ago, i had a 5" s&w 27 and a 6" security six; i wanted a python, but wouldn't shell out the $$$.

after getting an s&w 586 because it looked like a python, i realized i preferred it to the much pricier colt and still do.

bikemutt
December 21, 2012, 07:38 PM
It's worth the money from the standpoint that, unless you grossly overpay for it, you will easily get your money back and then some if you change your mind later.

For me, I'd buy a nice L-frame Smith and be just as happy, bank the rest of the cash.

L-Frame
December 21, 2012, 07:50 PM
I agree with some of the above posters in that the Python is the most beautiful gun ever made. From a functional standpoint I would my put 686-5 and my Gp-100's up against a Python any day (I've owned a few very nice ones). Personally, I prefer a nicely tuned S&W to a Python and the GP can be given a very nice action. While you might get a tad bit more accuracy due to the slight tapering of the python barrel, it's nothing that most people could ever take advantage of (1/2 inch at 25 yds...maybe) GP's and 686's are ridiculously accurate, as obviously is the Python.

It costs tons of money because it is gorgeous and has a mystique like no other gun in my opinion. It is off the charts in the cool factor (once again my opinion), and whether anyone wants to pay the prices people are asking is a personal decision only they can make. I would never pay 4 figures for one but I would have no problem with anyone who did.

Deer_Freak
December 21, 2012, 07:53 PM
Just keep your money. You don't have to buy anything right now. By and large new guns are over priced. If I found the exact python I wanted I would buy it. I would wait until I found a motivated seller with the python that I wanted to curl up on.

Ky Larry
December 21, 2012, 08:06 PM
I wanted a Python for 30 years before I got one. It has been worth every penny.

snowpro440
December 21, 2012, 08:08 PM
I too thought I needed a python but after going to gun show after show and seeing unbeleivable prices I decided that I would get something else and send it out for a custom action job . This will be better than the python. I want something to carry and if receives a few scratches so be it. Just adding character as it ages. Functionality and accuracy means more than the name on the side to me.

Tequila Mockingbird
December 21, 2012, 08:26 PM
I've never had much interest in Pythons...I think it's due to the ventilated rib which looks, to me at least, like an unnecessary affectation.

1KPerDay
December 21, 2012, 08:43 PM
Your honda civic will get groceries as well as your Mercedes... is the Mercedes worth the money?

mr.trooper
December 21, 2012, 08:57 PM
If all your worried about is decent mechanical accuracy, a Charter or a Rossi will do.

You buy quality revolvers because they have an intangible quality. They exude an air of craftsmanship, and hint of a mystical and romantic past that is gone from modern society.

9mmepiphany
December 21, 2012, 09:22 PM
Well, I think it is worth it.

I picked up an early GP-100 with the thought of carrying it as a duty gun so I could rebarrel my Python to shoot in competitions. It seemed like a good idea as I could use the same speedloaders

The GP-100 was OK out to 10-15 yards, but at 25 yards it just couldn't keep up with the Python. There really wasn't much comparison at 50 yards.

That is really pretty good shooting in the OP's target, but a Python would have easily kepy all the shots in the orange...if not in the black square.

...and because we all like to see pictures

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/Orans%20Pistols/LewsPistols033.jpg

...and a couple of very nice S&W M-627s

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/Orans%20Pistols/LewsPistols037.jpg

CharlieDeltaJuliet
December 21, 2012, 09:31 PM
I parted with this one just about a year ago. It was a 1968 2 1/2" Python. It was fired a total of 18 times. I miss the old pistol, but to be honest it was one of those I was afraid of scarring and scratching up. I wish to this day I had not let it go. It didn't go far, so I might have to see it back home. But yes, IMO, these are great top notch revolvers. I bet the accuracy can be rivaled or surpassed with the lesser expensive revolvers, but that action is slick as a ribbon. I am tempted to offer the guy one of my AR's for it back. He has been wanting one of them...

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/ChadJohnson1976/Python_zps4d9b5d8d.jpg

lowercase
December 21, 2012, 10:02 PM
If you want a Python, you have to pay the going rate. It's no different from buying a Rolex over a Seiko. Both tell time, right? Well, Rolex has no trouble selling every watch they make.

Does that make them "worth it"?

Well, a commodity is worth what people are willing to pay, and Pythons aren't cheap.

I also am a GP100 owner, as well as a S&W 19-3 owner. They're fine guns. However, I wanted a Python, and therefore had to pay the price of admission.

richkratz
December 21, 2012, 10:12 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? Well, I'm in the camp that finds a Python to be one ugly sumbiatch. To me, that vented rib is ridiculous. The frame is anything but symetric, least of all not attractive. Would I turn one down if offered to me? Heck no. Not to own and cherish, but to sell to someone who does slobber all over them at a HUGE profit. Give me a mint condition 60's-70's S&W anyday, they float my boat.

rcmodel
December 21, 2012, 10:17 PM
+1

I have plenty of fine old S&W & Colt revolvers every bit as good if not better then a Colt Python.

I always wanted one.
But the grip shape, and weight for holster carry always put me off of buying one.

However, even at this late date, if I ever run across a nice one at under a grand?
It's coming home with me to reside with the other S&W's & Colts.

I don't need one, and I don't lust after one.

But it is one of the few high points in American handgun manufacture never to be seen again.
So I still need to add one to my battery.

BTW: I no longer own a single Ruger handgun.

rc

skidder
December 21, 2012, 10:30 PM
Poor man's Python.... $380 OTD.


http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/exlogger/Colt/ColtLeft.jpg

Johnny Lightning
December 21, 2012, 10:48 PM
Do you think Colt will ever make the python again?

ColtPythonElite
December 21, 2012, 10:51 PM
Nope

Jim K
December 21, 2012, 10:51 PM
Each Python was hand tuned by Colt experts to give the best trigger pull with least stacking possible with the old Colt mechanism. The result was that the Python is a superb gun IN COMPARISON TO OTHER COLTS. But it is not (IMHO) significantly better than many stock S&W revolvers and certainly not better than a tuned S&W.

The Python finish and workmanship is top notch, as one would expect from a custom, hand built, gun. They are truly works of art. Accuracy is excellent, but all Colt revolvers are accurate, the Python no more so than an OMM.

Naturally, all that hand work and TLC came at a price, and the Python always was expensive.

Jim

wgsigs
December 21, 2012, 11:18 PM
There are a lot of other reasons for buying a Python than just how accurately you shoot it. It is up to you whether any of those reasons mean anything to you - unless you were just looking for a reason to brag. ;)

Cast of One
December 21, 2012, 11:27 PM
I just got a Python today. Let me tell you, they are worth it. The trigger is amazing. I cannot wait to shoot it again. I was in gun nirvana today at the range. If only I had brought more ammo.

highpower
December 21, 2012, 11:53 PM
To any individual an object is worth only what they are willing to pay for it.

It seems that all these type of posts become either a "I have this other gun and like it better" or "I have one and love it to death" type of discussions.

A Python is a wonderful revolver with a great single action and a smooth double action trigger. I wanted one for years and when I stumbled across one a year and a half ago for $850 I bought it without hesitation.

I have Colts, Smith & Wessons and a few Rugers. All of them have a place in my safe and I appreciate them for what they are.

Is a GP100 "better" than a Python? No it's not. Will it shoot with reasonable accuracy for multiple lifetimes? Yes it will.

I have both and to me, all my guns have different personalities and I quit trying to compare them with each other to see if one is "best".

And as a side note, I have a four screw S&W M29 that has hands down, the best trigger of any handgun I own, but it is not quite as accurate as the Colt.

To the OP, if you can shoot that good with your GP100 you really don't need a Python. However, if you had one you just might find that your groups might improve a bit.

jmorris
December 22, 2012, 12:06 AM
I have spent more than a few hours shooting old golf balls with mine, it has a leupold scope on it though. Worth the $475 I paid for it 27 years or so ago. Wouldn't have been as much fun if it cost $2K back then, because someone else would have it.

22-rimfire
December 22, 2012, 12:30 AM
Python worth the cost today?

For me it depends on how badly you want a Python and what kind of disposable income you have available. I've owned a few Pythons. They were all sweet. But I was more interested in other Colts, so eventually the Pythons departed my accumulation as with limited funds, I had to prioritize my purchases. I knew I couldn't own everything.

A new Colt Python was my second Colt. First a H&R Sportsman M999 was purchased and shot lots for a couple of years. Next, came a 4" Colt Diamondback 22 which forced the H&R into retirement... it's about 5x the gun to me. No. 3 was a 6" Python. I liked the Python but it and they have never made me do the dance. A Colt Trooper Mark III is my primary 357 mag shooter now and I like it just as well. But I bought it after production stopped and my interests shifted back to 357' revolvers.

What caused the shift back to 357's and 38spl's? Very simple.... CCW.

So, worth it? I would buy one if I felt it was a tremendous bargain simply because I know I can resell it for more if I choose to get rid of it. As far as shooting goes, I think they are right up there with M27 Smiths and I would prefer the Python. But I am very happy with my Trooper Mark III.

Better than a Ruger GP-100.... definitely yes. But can you afford a Python? I have a GP-100 too. Nice functional gun, but I prefer the Colts.

wlewisiii
December 22, 2012, 12:30 AM
The question, in my mind, is do you shoot single action or double action?

If you shoot double action, then no, a Python with it's classic Colt V mainspring is not worth it as a shooter. It may well still be worth it as a collectible but you might just find, as I did with several Colts over the years, that you just like shooting S&W revolvers more and can shoot better with them. That's my preference - it may or may not be yours.

Now if I found an old Smyton at a gun show that I could afford, I'd probably hurt my arm getting out my wallet... ;)

Enjoy either way.

skidder
December 22, 2012, 02:01 AM
Now if I found an old Smyton at a gun show that I could afford, I'd probably hurt my arm getting out my wallet...

A Smython (Model 19/Python) or a Couger (Security Six/Python) would be nice. The Python half always seems to be the barrel. That is where you find the accuracy .

I collect gun magazines. I have thousands dating back to the 60's. Several articles about the hybrids. Back then the articles were less tainted by commercial interests, so when I look for a review that is where I turn.

One article describes a test with the model 19 in its original configuration. Then they test the model 19 with the Colt Python barrel (Smython). The accuracy shows an improvement with the Colt Barrel. The article goes on to explain the improvement lies in the twist and taper of the Colt barrel. They tested several bullet speeds, and found the higher velocity bullets grouped about the same in both models, but the Colt barrel clearly had the advantage with the slower bullets.

RON in PA
December 22, 2012, 06:43 AM
Since I shoot my revolvers DA only I consider the Python inferior to the Smith L frames.

content
December 22, 2012, 08:02 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // Yes, they are worth the extra dollars.

If you offer me a holster worn, Pac. Myer gripped Python for $800 you won't have it long.
Especially if it is a late 50s early 60s DOM.

If you offer me a NIB with all accessories Python for sub $1600. I'd at least check DOM and probably buy if I had the funds.

The rare .38special only, or 2 1/2",, or Colt Guard or Elite would be a bit more.

Well done with the GP100, my favorite or go to revolver is the S&W, 586, 6".
I have and shoot Colt, Dan Wesson, Ruger and S&W .357s and enjoy them all.

Trigger pull, balance, grip size, front and rear sights...there is a lot going into comparing one revolver to another but I never met a Python I did not like.:D

j frame
December 22, 2012, 01:45 PM
CajunBass, would you like your money back on that four inch Python? :)

Johnny Lightning
December 22, 2012, 02:20 PM
I'm going to save up some more coin and look for a deal on a used tuned smith or python in my travels. I will keep my gp100 though...built like a tank!

Kymasabe
December 22, 2012, 02:50 PM
Keep it. I think Pythons are ugly as hell. I'd rather keep a giant chunk of cash in my pocket and buy Rossi or S&W.

9mmepiphany
December 22, 2012, 02:50 PM
If you offer me a holster worn, Pac. Myer gripped Python for $800 you won't have it long.
You mean like this one?

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/Orans%20Pistols/LewsPistols031.jpg

Sorry, $800 isn't going to pry it from my hands...it has saved my life too many times

MrBorland
December 22, 2012, 03:32 PM
Strangely, perhaps, but I'm drawn more to 9mm's shooter than to a pristine example. Very nice.

Sorry, $800 isn't going to pry it from my hands...it has saved my life too many times

No worries here - 'tis a fine reminder that some provenance must be earned, not bought.

9mmepiphany
December 22, 2012, 03:59 PM
Thanks. It has a special place...like Bilbo's Sting

The other side has about the same wear...but it is honest wear...the backstrap is so devoid of finish that I've had folks ask, when it was holstered, if it was a brushed stainless finish

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/Orans%20Pistols/LewsPistols032.jpg

slick6
December 22, 2012, 05:49 PM
Poor man's Python.... $380 OTD.


http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/exlogger/Colt/ColtLeft.jpg
skidder:

That is a real nice trooper you got there! Congrat's! You are right about these being a poor man's Python! I picked up an identical 6" Trooper to yours recently-but(Gasp)here in CA I had to pay $200 more! It's vintage year is dated 1968.

content
December 22, 2012, 06:26 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // 9mmepiphany that is a fine example of a "well" used Python. Glad it has served you "well".

That is a little more finish challenged then the one I bought but it would certainly do for $800 compared to other offerings. Especially with the history.

My 1935, Colt, Official Police, with vintage TylerT looks almost like your Python.:D

PabloJ
December 22, 2012, 08:13 PM
Actually poor mans Python is Dan Wesson Model 14 or 15.

22-rimfire
December 22, 2012, 08:17 PM
You used to be able to easily buy Colt Troopers in 22 for that $380 in about the same condition (just a few years back). Times change.

Added: Then again, you could buy Pythons for $300-$350 new in the mid-1970's and around $450-$500 in the mid-80's.

Johnny Lightning
December 23, 2012, 09:11 AM
Actually i had a Dan Wesson 15v-2 (almost sure that was the model) w/ 6" barrel and sold it for the ruger gp100. The action & trigger on the Dan was very stiff but the accuracy was there. If i ever find a Dan Wesson pistol pack at a good price I may jump on it.

jmorris
December 23, 2012, 05:08 PM
Since I shoot my revolvers DA only I consider the Python inferior to the Smith L frames.

While I shoot L and N frame smiths in competition, it's not because that have a better than my python. Be nice if they did.

bc1023
December 25, 2012, 11:21 AM
The Python is my favorite revolver by far.


http://imageshack.us/a/img387/2773/0001563lf5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img387/4872/0001561zw8.jpg

Bubba613
December 25, 2012, 01:20 PM
No, if you want a revolver to shoot. Smith's 686SSR is probably more accurate and certainly more durable for a lot less money. If you want a safe queen to admire and show off to friends then it's worth it for bragging rights. I don't know if the Python or the Colt 1911 is the most over-hyped handgun in history. But it's close.

highpower
December 25, 2012, 01:48 PM
While I certainly can't speak for others, I shoot my Python on a regular basis. Once a gun has been shot, it is no longer new and if you are careful they will stay in nice condition.

All that being said, just because I have a particular gun doesn't mean I feel I have to shoot it. I have a couple of low number Springfield 1903 rifles that I won't shoot, but I still enjoy them for their historical significance.

This is the one I mentioned in my earlier post, made in '64 and no safe queen:
http://highpower.smugmug.com/Firearms/Python/i-m48KJ3M/0/XL/IMG_1396-XL.jpg

I usually put these Herrets Shooting Stars on it for range work.
http://highpower.smugmug.com/Firearms/Python/i-8gtcpLx/0/XL/IMG_0741-XL.jpg

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