Allen (Uberti) F A Mfg Santa Fe


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jpconnell
December 21, 2012, 04:54 PM
I got this SAA-type in .44-40 several years ago at auction.
Problem is the cylinder locks up and refuses to spin at half cock.

It will advance only one chamber, then the cylinder stop locks it up nice and tight.
Any ideas on what needs to be done to fix it ?

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BCRider
December 22, 2012, 12:21 AM
You likely need to get a new cylinder stop bolt. There's a spring leaf which is integral to the part which is supposed to ride on and eventually skip over a pawl on the hammer. If it's broken then it won't lower and stay lowered like it's supposed to do.

You could take it to a gunsmith but really this is as good a time as any to view some videos on You Tube about how to fully strip and deep clean an authentic Colt style SAA. It's not that hard and it'll get you familiar with the insides.

Given that this is likely an older Uberti it's also likely that the hand has the original style leaf spring. But some newer replicas replaced the leaf spring with a small coil spring and plunger that is exposed when you remove the upper rear ears of the frame. So when you first take the grip frame/trigger guard off the reciever look for a spare hole on the left side of the hammer that is next to the threaded hole for the frame screw. If it's not there then you have the original style hand spring.

DPris
December 22, 2012, 01:39 AM
If it's an Allen, predecessor to Cimarron, I can guarantee it'll have the older spring. :)
Denis

jpconnell
December 22, 2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks to you both for helping clear this up.
Does anyone have a possible supplier to recommend or should I contact whoever succeeded Uberti ?
Might it be better/faster to contact Colt if the design is similar ?
Jim

DPris
December 22, 2012, 07:46 PM
Colt won't even talk to you about it.

Uberti is still around as the maker, but Allen Firearms is long gone as the importer.
You MIGHT try talking to Cimarron, they're under no obligation to do anything about it, but they might be willing to refer you to somebody who works on the Ubertis.
Cimarron doesn't work on their own guns.

Uberti USA is a current importer of Uberti Italy products, but Uberti USA won't work on it either.

Find a local gunsmith familiar with the clones & see what he can do.
They have a simple mechanism, not too difficult to work on, but you do have to know what you're doing & parts sold for current Uberti-made guns may or may not fit your older one.
Denis

jpconnell
December 23, 2012, 05:45 PM
Thanks again to all .
Looks like the best possible approach might be tosee if the part might be available from Cimarron ( they do have an exploded diagram/parts list on their website) and then see if I can get a replacement spring and bolt, for starter. I am fairly handy so making minor adjustments should not be too bad ,assuming the parts are available.

Will let you know how it turns out.

Jim

DPris
December 23, 2012, 07:38 PM
Do you know how to time those?
If not, you may still want to take it to a pro.

You can call VTI to talk about just replacement parts, they have a great stock of Italian repro parts for a number of those clones.
Denis

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