Brand new Glock 26 problem


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Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 07:53 AM
Hi everyone. I am new to semi autos, I have always had revolvers before.

I just bought a Glock 26 new in box today, 3 Gen. While at the store, I failed to notice that the spring recoil plug on the muzzle looked kind of tilted, not straight as it should. Upon further inspection, I realized the rear of the recoil spring (0-8) is not sitting down on the notch of the barrel lug, you know, on that half moon notch; instead, you can clearly see it has moved down a little.

I pushed it back down with my fingers to make it fit on the notch, and I proceeded to reassemble the gun. Once I inserted the slide through the rails, I could feel the recoil spring moving back out of the right position again. The plug on the muzzle looked tilted again. I made sure I pushed it down and it was on the notch when I put the slide back.

I haven't shot it yet, but I am afraid to do so due to this issue. Also, I am afraid it will scratch the heck out of the frame.

Obviously, I am frustrated being a new gun, in box and all. I understand lemons happen but I want to make sure that's the case. I am sure you guys can shed some light on to this subject.


I attach a picture here so you can see part of the problem. Is the recoil spring doing the right thing on this pic? It seems way up to me. Shouldnt it be straight? Thank you for your help.
http://s10.postimage.org/sucyicdhl/original_3.jpg

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west.22
December 22, 2012, 08:56 AM
If I am understanding it correctly it sounds like normal operation to me. every time the glock is disassembled you have to move the guide rod assembly back up into the groove because during operation it moves down a little, to rest directly in front of the slide stop ( I think ). If it function checks OK then I wouldn't worry about it. That is if I understood your question correctly.

rbernie
December 22, 2012, 08:57 AM
It's supposed to sit on the lower notch of the barrel lug.

ku4hx
December 22, 2012, 10:38 AM
Perfectly normal; here's mine at a slightly different angle. Shoot yours and enjoy it.

eam3clm@att.net
December 22, 2012, 11:10 AM
The recoil spring catches on the locking block after the slide is installed on the frame. Yours looks normal.

WinThePennant
December 22, 2012, 12:53 PM
100% NORMAL!!! :)

Go shoot that thing and have fun with it!

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
Perfectly normal; here's mine at a slightly different angle. Shoot yours and enjoy it.
Thank you for the replies guys.

I compared it to other pictures online and I'd swear that the rod looks straighter on those guns.

Now that I see ku4hx picture, yours looks very similar to mine...but it is the angle. I believe the angle on mine is slightly different. Either way, the plug on yours seems to be coming out a bit too.

Winthepennant, the reason I got this gun was to replace my old j frame revolver, as I found it wasn't getting reliable and I knew Glock would be able to give me reliability. I certainly hope that's the case.

One more question, if I were to change the recoil spring for a new one, do you think the situation would change?

hentown
December 22, 2012, 06:21 PM
The guide rod is only supposed to rest in the half-moon cut during assembly. Even if you bought 1000 guide rods, that's where they're supposed to sit, only during assembly.

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 06:30 PM
I understand Hentown. Check this pic out, even if the rod is only supposed to rest on the half moon during assembly, it seemed odd to me that the rod plug on the muzzle looked not even. See the empty space between the frame and the plug? You can actually see the spring wire from the front, metallic. Sorry for the quality.

http://s14.postimage.org/4ywst50y9/original_2.jpg

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 06:52 PM
I also forgot to ask, the factory rod on the Glock 26 3 Gen is supposed to be metal right? Mine is not plastic.

sappyg
December 22, 2012, 07:17 PM
I would shoot the gun. Put about 500 rounds through it and see how it goes.

I see nothing wrong with it but, you never know.

hentown
December 22, 2012, 07:22 PM
Hard to compare with my daily carry G26, as I change out the factory guide rod/springs for a Wolff steel guide rod when I acquired the G26. Had a guide rod break on a G26 and G30. Never had the steel ones break.

powder
December 22, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nothing wrong. Shoot the gun: do not jump the shark to a lemon shark for cryin out loud. Put away the keypad and go to the range. :D

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 07:35 PM
I will shoot it as soon as I can. The weather is not allowing right now...:fire:

Hope everything goes alright. The thing that worries me the most is safety. I don't want any AD's or lack of reliability. So I guess I won't be able to tell until I shoot it.

When I first saw the rod I was alarmed...I dont want it to explode on my face.:uhoh:

Plan2Live
December 22, 2012, 07:36 PM
Had a guide rod break on a G26 and G30It's a "perfection" thing, you wouldn't understand.

mr.trooper
December 22, 2012, 08:22 PM
I hate to sound like 'that gun jerk' ...

But you are posting about the sky falling when your gun function tests fine, and you haven't even shot it yet. That's silly.

Don't go around convincing yourself there are problems with your guns when you have no evidence. It will drive you crazy in this hobby.

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 08:53 PM
Mr. Trooper, nah...you have a point, you don't sound like the "gun jerk" or anything.

I am new to semi autos, and I was afraid that after comparing the parts of the pistol to other pics online, it would hurt me or something when shooting it. I want safety first, if the gun breaks I don't care, but I want to feel 1- safe when shooting it, knowing it wont hurt me due to some mechanical issue and 2- reliability for protection.

See, the way the spring rod looked like was "alarming" to a person that doesn't know much about semi autos. That's why I came here and you guys kind of gave me peace of mind and not be afraid to shoot it thinking it will blow back on my face.

I can't wait to try it out, once I do, I will get back with results.

That being said, somebody may come by and add something new to the discussion.

Thanks

:)

WinThePennant
December 22, 2012, 08:57 PM
Mine sits just about like that, too. I've fired hundreds of rounds through it, and no problems.

It's not a concern. That part of the guide rod sits 'almost' flush to the slide. Mine doesn't touch the slide -- There's a very slight gap when I look at it from the side.

Martin Briefner
December 22, 2012, 09:05 PM
Thanks Pennant. I just watched this youtube video and it shows the rod almost sitting at the same angle as the one on my picture. I am beginning to feel much better about it. The only thing that bothers me now is the plug on the front, it still looks strange to me...but if it doesn't affect the pistol functions...then there shouldn't be any worries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VolLnSrCSlw

wheelyfun66
December 23, 2012, 07:33 AM
Don't worry about the strange (offset) way in which the guide rod assembly sits in the slide (when viewed from the muzzle/front)

It is the nature of Glock/polymer to have some flexibility or play in the way that certain components fit together.

Yes, the guide rod assembly will pop up from being "properly" seated, once the slide goes on. NOT a problem.

I have owned gen3 and gen4 Glock subcompacts, and can assure you that you have NO cause for concern. (well....except maybe the price gouging for ammo!)

Here is a pic to get you inspired!
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/spec4towle/018-1.jpg
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/spec4towle/027.jpg
http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/spec4towle/020.jpg

Ben86
December 23, 2012, 09:32 AM
It looks normal to me, now go shoot the darn thing already. It's good to be cautious, but sometimes when you are not familiar with the gun you can misunderstand how things are supposed to fit together.

hentown
December 23, 2012, 10:06 AM
There's nothing that the OP could do with a recoil spring assembly, short of using it to pull the trigger, that would cause his G26 to magically fire. THERE IS NO SAFETY PROBLEM!!!!!

Martin Briefner
December 23, 2012, 07:56 PM
lol Thanks guys, I am completely inspired now. It stopped raining, I will go to the range this week and get back with a report.

One last thing, I want to make sure the guy at the store didn't mess or replaced the rod or anything. Is this the Glock factory one? It also says 0 8

http://s7.postimage.org/ge6505jhn/original_4.jpg

sappyg
December 23, 2012, 08:05 PM
I'm going to stop reading this thread now. Enjoy your new glock. it's fine.

wheelyfun66
December 23, 2012, 10:36 PM
That recoil assembly looks BAD!
Do Not Use it!!!!

Send the whole pistol to me (pm me for address) and I will field test it for about three years.....get it back to you when all is deemed safe! :evil:

OK already....just shoot the darn thing, will ya? :neener:

Martin Briefner
December 23, 2012, 11:04 PM
Haha ok I'm done asking. I honestly thank you all for your help.

777TRUTH
December 24, 2012, 03:00 PM
nothing wrong. Shoot the gun: Do not jump the shark to a lemon shark for cryin out loud. Put away the keypad and go to the range.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^what he said!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

psyopspec
December 25, 2012, 01:57 AM
It is the factory one most likely, and if it's not it's a good enough knockoff that I'd be fine shooting it. Speaking of that, how does yours perform at the range? If you have any other safety or manufacturing concerns I'd be happy to buy it from you for the right price.

Hit_Factor
December 25, 2012, 02:24 AM
One last thing, I want to make sure the guy at the store didn't mess or replaced the rod or anything. Is this the Glock factory one? It also says 0 8


Hey, is that a black helicopter behind you? ;)

The recoil assembly is fine, I've been a Glock Armorer since the '80s. Go shoot it, have fun.

Martin Briefner
December 29, 2012, 10:40 PM
Thanks for the replies and sorry for the delay, I've been busy.

I am new in town and I just found a range. Weather has been bad so I haven't been able to shoot the pistol yet.

I saw a Glock 17 recoil spring and it looks all polymer, whereas this one looks steel. Thus my question hoping it was the factory recoil spring.

By the way do you always fill out the Glock warranty card? Is it necessary?

I'll be reporting back soon.

hentown
December 30, 2012, 07:28 AM
You don't need to fill out the warranty card; however, nobody's mentioned the obvious that you need to be aware of when firing a Glock: make sure that the end of the pistol that has a large hole at the end of the slide is pointed downrange, when/if you ever get up enough courage to actually pull the trigger. :evil:

Martin Briefner
December 30, 2012, 07:42 AM
ok...;)

ku4hx
December 30, 2012, 07:49 AM
By the way do you always fill out the Glock warranty card? Is it necessary?
I seldom register anything ... basically never. "Warranty Cards" are just info gathering and that's not something I do voluntarily. I can't think of anything I own that was refused warranty work because I didn't submit the card or register online. As is the usual case ... YMMV.

I've had several old hand loading dies adjusted totally free of charge and they were decades old. Same for my Dillon RL550B. If only the rest of the world had customer/warranty service as good as I've found the shooting industry to have.

ku4hx
December 30, 2012, 08:00 AM
You don't need to fill out the warranty card; however, nobody's mentioned the obvious that you need to be aware of when firing a Glock: make sure that the end of the pistol that has a large hole at the end of the slide is pointed downrange, when/if you ever get up enough courage to actually pull the trigger. :evil:
+1 ...

Enachos
December 30, 2012, 01:52 PM
That metal recoil spring u posted a picture of is a new recoil spring assembly. I bought a Gen. 4 Glock 27 about 4 months back and it came with the recoil spring pictured above and I had trouble with the slide not going fully into battery when I rode the slide forward. I would have to give it a slight bump at the rear of the slide for it to fully go into battery. This is a common issue with these Gen 4 glocks apparently. Anyways, I called Glock and they sent me a new recoil spring and it resolved the issue. I prefer the plastic recoil assembly simply because I never had a problem with it and I'm not quite sure why Glock made the switch. I feel as though Glock tried to fix something that was never broken. This was my second Gen 4 Glock 27. The first one came with the all plastic recoil assembly (which never gave me any problems). I'll be honest, that faulty recoil spring made me lose faith in the Gen. 4 Glocks. I sold that Gen. 4 Glock 27 and went back to 3rd Gens. I now have the Gen. 3 G29 SF... And it reminds me why I fell in love with Glocks in the first place. Considering I hear more problems involving Gen. 4's, I'll probably just stick with Gen 3's from now on! YMMV.

Enachos
December 30, 2012, 02:00 PM
Btw... the replacement recoil spring assembly they sent me looked idential to the one that was giving me issues going into battery. But was marked 0-8-1 or 0-1-8. Can't remember which one! And it took two tries fo get the correct recoil assmebly. Never recieved the first one that was sent to me... Read quite a few reports on this issue.

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