Post ban 80% AR-15 lower legality


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CApighunter
December 22, 2012, 11:23 PM
I would love to own an AR, but due to limited funds I can afford to drop $800+ on a full rifle right now. I like the fact that the AR has so much aftermarket support and is easy to piece together as funds allow. In the event Feinstien gets her way with "Assault rifle ban" how will the whole aftermarket industry be effected? Could I still buy parts(barrels, uppers, etc.) Would I still be able to buy an 80% lower as it is "not a firearm" per the ATF? I like the idea of buying an unfinished lower and milling it out with my drill press. I'm very good with my hands and enjoy difficult projects despite being only 17. Also this way the government would not be aware of the lowers existence(puts on tinfoil hat hahaha). What are your thoughts?
CApighunter

Edit: AR would be CA compliant of course

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gfpd707
December 23, 2012, 12:28 AM
All these ban questions are meaningless no legislation is ready to be voted on. All anyone is doing is speculating.

Quentin
December 23, 2012, 01:57 AM
If a ban did come down the pike how would you prove that your completed lower is preban? Save the original receipt for the non-firearm? Was it made into a firearm before the ban? Questions that might matter and I have no answer, just something for you to consider.

ApacheCoTodd
December 23, 2012, 01:28 PM
Let that idea go. Remember, you've gotta finish the machining, unify the texture and get teh rascal anodized by a shop with an FFL after a possible ban?

I watched this movie in California and the state was full of fellas who either didn't have their lowers papered, messed them up in attempting to complete them or had the all-to common failures in getting them anodized.

Just look at the California experience if you're worried and buy the next finished/stripped lower of quality you come across with paper to CYA if that matters to you and commence to amass the remaining needed parts.

BBBBill
December 23, 2012, 01:38 PM
Building guns is fun. Finishing "pre-guns" can be fun, too. If you have the knowledge, skills, and access to proper tools to do it. All of those are critical. It will be more expensive than buying a finished part by the time you are finished, maybe twice the price. Most drill presses do not have adequate bearings to ensure drilling/milling to the accuracy level required for such. You might get something that functions, but it will never be to the standards or quality level of one that is properly finished on a mill. If you can rationalize all of that and are still determined, it might be a viable project. Most folks will step away from it when they realize just what an endeavor it is.
Pony up for a stripped lower and buy your other parts when you can afford them.

aubie515
December 23, 2012, 02:12 PM
Building guns is fun. Finishing "pre-guns" can be fun, too. If you have the knowledge, skills, and access to proper tools to do it. All of those are critical. It will be more expensive than buying a finished part by the time you are finished, maybe twice the price. Most drill presses do not have adequate bearings to ensure drilling/milling to the accuracy level required for such. You might get something that functions, but it will never be to the standards or quality level of one that is properly finished on a mill. If you can rationalize all of that and are still determined, it might be a viable project. Most folks will step away from it when they realize just what an endeavor it is.
Pony up for a stripped lower and buy your other parts when you can afford them.
This is sound advice.

aubie515
December 23, 2012, 02:15 PM
All these ban questions are meaningless no legislation is ready to be voted on. All anyone is doing is speculating.
Agreed...people are in a panic and there isn't even a ban.

daytrip
December 23, 2012, 03:03 PM
I found some 80% receivers at Tactical Machining's website.

CApighunter
December 23, 2012, 10:09 PM
Lowers are impossible to find around here. The only one I saw was $200+ for a brand I can't remember.
CApighunter

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