Shootin' Josey Wales Style


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duelist1954
December 23, 2012, 02:45 PM
I got a new Uberti-made Colt Walker replica from Taylor's & Co. and I couldn't resist grabbing my old ASM Walker for some Josey Wales action.

Eastwood made it look so easy...it aint..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk603K7RjyY

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col.lemat
December 23, 2012, 03:48 PM
awsome!

rodwha
December 23, 2012, 04:37 PM
I've read of some using their's with nothing but full loads. I'm curious as to how many of you that do find that it stresses the wedge or damages it in any way.

I've felt that I need one of these for hunting as well as the cool factor, but if a reduced load is needed it seems you may as well get a Dragoon, except that most claim a reduced load they find more accurate. I can fit 45 grns in my Old Army with a RB using T7, which wouldn't give me much of a reason to need a Dragoon.

How many of you with a Walker use T7?

Quoheleth
December 23, 2012, 05:04 PM
Another nice vid, Mike.

Couple questions:

What do those Walkers weigh each? About 4lbs right? What's recoil like with 40gr? 60gr? (Compared to, say, a .357, .45 Colt, or .44 Mag) I bet after a couple cylinder fulls Josey Wales style, your forarms were aching.

Looks like fun, but I don't have the patience blackpowder takes.

Q

Mictlanero
December 23, 2012, 05:20 PM
Great video - those are really nice pistols. I love in Outlaw Josey Wales when he does the road agent spin with those Walkers.

Beetle Bailey
December 23, 2012, 05:52 PM
First BP revolver I ever shot was a replica Walker and you can't help but notice the enormous size and balance (or lack thereof). I would definately have trouble shooting one in each hand! Thanks for the video :D

72coupe
December 23, 2012, 07:30 PM
I enjoyed your video Mike. A pistol in each hand is hard to master.

CraigC
December 23, 2012, 08:52 PM
What do those Walkers weigh each? About 4lbs right? What's recoil like with 40gr? 60gr?
The Dragoons are well over 4lbs and the Walker is heavier still. Never shot a Walker but shooting the Dragoon with full loads makes a lot of noise but the recoil is negligible.

Beetle Bailey
December 23, 2012, 11:59 PM
According to their website, Uberti's Dragoon weights 4.1 lbs and their Walker weights 4.5 lbs. All I know is the Walker is a beast.

towboat_er
December 24, 2012, 01:39 AM
Cool video. thanks.

Jim K
December 24, 2012, 02:33 AM
That "cool" video leaves me cold. I DON'T LIKE GUNS POINTED AT ME, even in a video. Guns are NOT toys, not even repro Walkers. Anyone who does not believe that, please let ME fire a .44 caliber ball at YOU!

Jim

arcticap
December 24, 2012, 04:46 AM
What about fitting a leather strap around those loading levers that keep dropping to show folks a practical field fix for the problem.
At least you showed folks that the lever dropping can be a constant problem.
Sometimes folks will cock their gun and then attempt to fix the dropped loading lever which places their hand in front of a live cylinder or causes them to point in awkward directions, or with their finger seemingly touching the trigger or close to it.
Not necessarily in your video but in another Walker video I've seen just that.
Although it wouldn't be shooting Josey Wales style, the Walker is one of those revolvers that folks have said can hit a target at up to 100 yards with some regularity.
I realize that this Uberti is a new gun, but I wouldn't mind seeing if some shots could hit a target that was set up at one or two rifle distances anywhere between 50 -100 yards.
And I can imagine that heavy loads shot from it would be able to penetrate as many water bottles as the Ruger Old Army did if not more. But to me that's not an important test to perform on camera since I realize that there was a bullet deflection problem when shooting through many water bottles in a previous video.
However trying to fire at a target that's large enough to hit at longer range could be interesting. Even if the groups were relatively large it would still be an accomplishment. The Walker's longer barrel should provide a better sighting plane and it shouldn't require excessive powder loads. Maybe you could try it with some Swiss or other target grade powder, and fire at a large metal silhouette or at a large paper target to see how accurate the Walker can shoot at longer range. A long range test would help confirm that the Walker has a higher degree of accuracy than some of the other .44 reproductions on the market, and can do it with more power and consistency. :)

duelist1954
December 24, 2012, 08:34 AM
My Walkers each weigh 4.5 pounds on my RCBS trigger pull scale.

Filing the T-spring is the classic fix for dropped loading levers. As you saw, it isn't always 100% effective, but it is a big improvement. On the ASM gun, the lever fell every time until I made that mod.

There are a series of mods that correct the Walker's deficiencies. When you're done making them you find yourself holding a Third Model Dragoon...:D

72coupe
December 24, 2012, 10:05 AM
In 1968 I did a lot of shooting with an 1860 and a 2nd model dragoon. One day I decided to try to hit the fence post at the center of a section from the southwest corner of the section with the dragoon. I was using a round ball over a full chamber of DuPont 3F.

Holding over the post several feet I could get very close to it on a regular basis. The distance across the diagonal of a quarter section is 1244 yards.

Steel Horse Rider
December 24, 2012, 10:28 AM
I think there is a bit of a difference between shooting a camera and shooting a human, get over it.

NCWanderer
December 24, 2012, 12:09 PM
I agree with Steel Horse Rider

Patocazador
December 24, 2012, 12:50 PM
A safety note concerning shooting with both hands: Except for a few individuals who are completely ambidextrous, the rest of us have trouble controlling the weak-hand gun. This was brought home to me by a friend at a public gun range who witnessed a guy with 2 Colt SAAs practicing 2-handed quick draw. He lost control of the gun in his weak hand (left),tried to grab it with his right hand while holding the cocked revolver, and shot himself in the gut. He was airlifted to the hospital but died on the way.

Shooting is fun; dieing is not.

raa-7
December 24, 2012, 01:09 PM
I enjoyed the video Mike and thanks. I could imagine to fire like that would be tough after a few rounds with a heavy revolver like the Walker. Is the Walker able to shoot more accurately than say, the Colt, or Remington,at longer distances because of it's powder capacity, or was it more of a reason of power at shorter distances that it was used back in it's time? Thanks for another great video and merry Christmas. -ron-

duelist1954
December 24, 2012, 02:51 PM
The Walker was conceived as a main battle weapon for cavalry. It was expected to be shot at 75 to 125 yards. By the time they were within what we consider typical modern handgun distances, it was saber time.

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