Ammos that are plentiful inspite of Ammo Scare


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nathan
December 26, 2012, 11:43 AM
Theres still plenty in the ff that ive seen at Walmart and Academy Sports : 12 g birdshots , .22 WMR, .17 HMR, .243s, .3006, .308s, .30 30, 7 RM, 300 WM, .premium SDs like .45 ACP JHPs, cowboy .45 Colt, .357 SIG, .204, etc. So maybe next time around you know what calibers to buy.

The ones that go quick are the .223s, 9mms, 7.62 x 39,.22 LRs, etc... These are the SHTF ammo that are popular to the general public . For me the important ones to have are plenty of .22 LRs for survival and future plinking. Then .45ACP (sidearm), 12 gauge 00 bcks and 7.62 x 39 for defense of lives and limbs.

Whats yours?

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mberoose
December 26, 2012, 11:46 AM
Haven't seen any real shortage or price gouging on 7.62x54R. Got a spam can last week for the same price I could've gotten it for 6 months ago.

Certaindeaf
December 26, 2012, 11:48 AM
Well the way I see it is that that ammo is actually plentiful, it's just in the hands of the end-user now (pretty much), not in stores or supply lines.

nathan
December 26, 2012, 11:56 AM
$100 worth of .22 LRs goes a long way for me as i dont shoot much in a year. I wish i got more before Sandy happened. I only got about 1000 rds of .22LR and various brands right now. Half of which are the crappy Remington Golden Bullet (dirty as hell, hehehe). But I got more surplus 8 mm mauser and 7.62 x 54 R to keep me company .

Trent
December 26, 2012, 12:04 PM
Haven't seen any real shortage or price gouging on 7.62x54R. Got a spam can last week for the same price I could've gotten it for 6 months ago.

It's the only rifle caliber one of the wholesalers I have access to inventory on, that is actually still in stock.

Handgun ammo is still in good supply at wholesalers.

This being said, given what's going on it might not be a bad idea to pick up some if you're low. You know.. while it's still in good supply.

Doc7
December 26, 2012, 12:08 PM
Still haven't been to a store since Sandy, it sounds like I am way late to the party but is .22LR really sold out most place??

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Trent
December 26, 2012, 12:09 PM
I haven't seen any of the local shops to me sell out of 22LR yet, but don't know what neck of the woods you're in.

Zeke/PA
December 26, 2012, 12:10 PM
I was at Dick's this morning and they have an ample supply of 9mm, .40 S&W and .38 Special.
I was after Remington 9mm's but they were sold out so I setteled for two boxes (50 rds ea) of American Eagle Stuff.
A few weeks ago Dick's had Rem's on sale for $12.00/50 which I thought was a good buy.
I reload for the .38's so shooting to my hearts content is not a problem.
I like the 9 Mikes too!

Ranger Roberts
December 26, 2012, 12:14 PM
The Cabela's near me in PA has a ton of .22lr. Trying to find primers on the other hand was no simple task! I bought a few boxes of 30 30 at Wally World on Sunday and there were plenty more on the shelf. There was plenty of 12ga target loads, but no 20ga. I couldn't find any buckshot though. Not long until people resort back to "cut" shells... haha

texasgun
December 26, 2012, 03:07 PM
"Theres still plenty in the ff that ive seen at Walmart and Academy Sports : 12 g birdshots , .22 WMR, .17 HMR, .243s, .3006, .308s, .30 30, 7 RM, 300 WM, .premium SDs like .45 ACP JHPs, cowboy .45 Colt, .357 SIG, .204, etc. So maybe next time around you know what calibers to buy."

That doesn't help me though when the only .45 ammo in stores are JHPs in 20rd boxes ;) kinda expensive to shoot that stuff during a fun day at the range.

I'm heading to my local dealer later today and to WalMart ... last week all they had left were some revolver ammo and SD rounds in .45 and .40.

Dreamliner787
December 26, 2012, 03:21 PM
Huge difference in what a couple of days make with supply/demand on guns and ammo.

jrdolall
December 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
As of Monday there were no .22 rounds to be found anywhere around here. Academy, Dick's( I stopped in to see while the kids were in Petco next door), 2 Wally worlds, all were OOS on .22 and .223. That may change daily as these warehouse stores have product delivered multiple times per week.
Why the mad rush on .22 anyway? I have 5k+ rounds on hand but we can shoot those up in a month easily. Did this happen in 2008? I don't recall stores being out of .22 but maybe I just didn't need any for a while so I didn't notice.

flatlander937
December 26, 2012, 04:32 PM
I'm OK on 9mm and .45 but I've been able to buy a couple boxes here and there since the CT shooting. I JUST bought a Ruger 10/22 a few weeks ago, never got around to buying some bulk packages of .22lr and now it sucks. The only .22 in stores I've seen is the overpriced Swamp People .22lr crap and .22 shot shells which do me no good.

What I've learned: I need a .22 magnum or .17hmr bolt rifle, I need a .22lr revolver, and basically any handgun NOT chambered in 9mm, .40, or .45.

Also learned that I should have bought some 25rd mags for my 10/22 immediately after getting it.:banghead:


And reloading is a new priority to get into.

nathan
December 26, 2012, 05:23 PM
I checked with another Walmart today and the same, no more .22 LRs. The .17 HMRs were plenty from Winchester , CCI and Remington around $12-13 for 50 rd s. I guess .17 HMR is a pretty good round than .22 WMR but theres more of the latter around. The cost too is a big factor. The former can do what the .17 HMR can do .

Doc7
December 26, 2012, 06:10 PM
I picked the wrong time to get .22 rifles and a 20 gauge sounds like! Maybe I will need to take a trip (2 hours) to that Cabela's in PA to stock up before they're empty too...

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texasgun
December 26, 2012, 07:19 PM
just got back from WalMart and my local firearms dealer (WestCoast Armory in Factoria, WA)...

WalMart was OUT of 9mm / .45ACP range ammo. All gone.
They had one 250rd value pack for .40 S&W left.

JHP was available for 9mm/.40/.45 and they had plenty... but not of any value to me for range time.

.22LR bulk ammo was GONE. nada. just a few "100rd" mini-bricks from Winchester for something like $8 / 100rd. far too expensive.

WestCoast Armory was crazy. The store looked so empty... all "black rifles" on the wall gone except 3 used ARs of which one sold while I was there. Shotguns and 10/22 were pretty much gone too. Just empty walls. There was a very long line for handguns and I think 6-8 people were waiting in line to buy handguns. They did have a CCI bulk pack for .22LR (375rds or so) ... but it came out to around $8/ 100rds as well.

Surprisingly CCI Stingers and CCI Velocitors were available in good supply and the same price as before the panic buying started. So I picked up 100rd Stingers and 50rd Velocitors since I was already there... I always keep a few hundred of these "little plastic boxes" of .22LR high-velocity ammo around as that would be my go to ammo for a worst case scenario... probably decent for SD too if I had to use it.

Warp
December 26, 2012, 07:44 PM
RE: Walmart and ammo, I took this today

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/austin3161324/Firearms/20121226_155246_zps3a9e7e94.jpg

Stress_Test
December 26, 2012, 08:38 PM
Man that's crazy. I figure people have gotta run out of money sooner or later. If we're still in a recession then where are people getting all this money to go out and buy arm-fulls of ARs and pallets of ammo??

Warp
December 26, 2012, 08:41 PM
Man that's crazy. I figure people have gotta run out of money sooner or later. If we're still in a recession then where are people getting all this money to go out and buy arm-fulls of ARs and pallets of ammo??

Few, if any, are buying that much.

What we are seeing is the many United States residents who own guns, or want to own guns, voting with their wallets.

The next time somebody pretending to be a 2A or gun rights supporter admits defeat...before battle has even been joined in earnest...and proclaims that there will be some kind of a ban, remind them of just how many people in this country wouldn't be happy with that...and how the legislature cares about their votes

Fishslayer
December 26, 2012, 10:25 PM
The next time somebody pretending to be a 2A or gun rights supporter admits defeat...before battle has even been joined in earnest...and proclaims that there will be some kind of a ban, remind them of just how many people in this country wouldn't be happy with that...and how the legislature cares about their votes

I'd love to know the breakdown of how many are first time buyers in this present panic. From what I've been hearing (pure scuttlebutt) the gunshops are awash in people who know diddly about ARs except they gotta have one NOW!

I got my first handgun in Nov '08 (;)) and have since spent a lot of time in gunshops & at the range. It's been my observation that a LOT of newbies have joined our ranks in the past four years with a goodly portion of them women. Easy to spot at the range. The n00bs generally have an ear to ear grin. :D

guitarguy314
December 26, 2012, 10:32 PM
Definitely Plenty of 45 colt out there

colorado_handgunner
December 26, 2012, 10:41 PM
No 22lr anywhere here. I picked up 6 bricks Saturday, (2400 round total) and haven't seen any since. Thankfully I already had a few thousand on hand. I mostly shoot 22lr and 9mm. What I picked up should hold me for 6 months or so until this all dies down.

Wally world is completely sold out of everything, but Palmetto Armory still has a good stock of most things except 22lr and 223

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence"
George Washington

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have,"
Gerald Ford

Warp
December 26, 2012, 10:55 PM
I'd love to know the breakdown of how many are first time buyers in this present panic. From what I've been hearing (pure scuttlebutt) the gunshops are awash in people who know diddly about ARs except they gotta have one NOW!

I got my first handgun in Nov '08 (;)) and have since spent a lot of time in gunshops & at the range. It's been my observation that a LOT of newbies have joined our ranks in the past four years with a goodly portion of them women. Easy to spot at the range. The n00bs generally have an ear to ear grin. :D

From what I have seen and heard there are a lot of first time buyers, and not just of rifles that were banned under the 1994 AWB. When I was in an LGS recently the guy buying a gun as I walked up to the counter was getting a Glock, and it was his first gun

morcey2
December 26, 2012, 10:58 PM
One of our local stores had to put a sign up on the 9x18 makarov ammo stating that it would not work in 9x19/9mm luger/9mm parabellum/etc. They were having lots of people trying to return.

Matt

Fishslayer
December 27, 2012, 01:46 AM
When I was in an LGS recently the guy buying a gun as I walked up to the counter was getting a Glock, and it was his first gun

The range I belong to also has a pretty well stocked gun shop and I always cruise by the used & consignment case when I go there. Probably 1/2 to 3/4 of the times I go there the staff is helping a person/couple pick their first HD gun.

As for ammo, the .22LR has always been a crapshoot at my local WallyWorld. They get a lot of it in but it sells out quickly.

I wish everybody shared the hate for the Remington Golden bulk. It works great in all my rimfires. :D

jrdolall
December 27, 2012, 11:20 AM
No .22 in my closest WM or two LGS as of this morning. I will run short of 380 in about a month as I try to fire a couple of mags per week with my primary CCW and have never kept a lot on hand. I have enough 9mm to last quite a while and enough 38 to last a year. I don't shoot a LOT of .223 so I have enough to last several months at normal usage. I am really low on ammo for my AK-74s but ordered some from Graf's early this week and will be good if it shows. The .22 bothers me because we shoot it 10 to 1 over the others what with kids and AR conversion kits. Hopefully that round will resolve itself pretty soon or there will be a lot of happy hay bales for the next few months.

y2k600f4
December 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
Have not posted in a long while anyway the last week I have scoured several walmarts across NC, TN, AR, and OK...basically seeing the same thing....they all have been wiped with no bulk 22 whatsoever. Some 40SW and typical high end stuff but defineatly no 9mm or 45 ACP bulk.

This makes me sick and looks like target shooting is no longer a feasible hobby. Will have to downsize to a select few for hunting and personal protection. What ammo I do have is probably worth more than the guns. Anybody think I should bundle ammo with the gun ? Eg Taurus 1911 with maybe 500 rounds ? Im considering getting into reloading but will limit it to 9mm and 38/357...selling some stuff can fund some of the equipment and supplies. That and keepng my 22lr and 12 gaugee should suite my needs.

Trent
December 27, 2012, 01:50 PM
Shooting can be much cheaper with reloading, particularly if you cast your own "Booolets!"

I figure I've got about 2 cents per lead bullet wrapped up in 9mm, closer to 3 cents in 45. :)

Add a primer and 1000-rounds-per-pound powder, now you're shooting 9mm or 45 for 6 to 7 cents a shot.

Or, $3.00 / 50 for 9mm, $4.00 / 50 for 45 ACP. That's about 1/5th of the going rate.

texasgun
December 27, 2012, 03:06 PM
true... but if you do not cast your own bullets - the savings become much, much smaller. I looked the the Midway catalogue and when I take the cheapest 9mm bullets they have and the cheapest casings/primer + gun powder .... the savings get fairly small. not to mention the reloading equipment and learning curve... that being said: if 9mm for cheapo range ammo stays above $28/100rds.... it's something worth considering. but definitely not when prices come back down and I can get Blazer 9mm for $21/100rds...

Warp
December 27, 2012, 06:22 PM
9mm still isn't a very good cartridge to reload on a money saving basis, for most people.

.38spl and .357 magnum...that's one of the biggest differences between reloading cost and off-the-shelf cost among common cartridges, I think

Trent
December 27, 2012, 07:11 PM
My second firearms purchase as an adult was a Savage in 300WM. I started reloading pretty much from the beginning. That ammo was expensive then.. it's exhorbitant now.

Texasgun;

If you buy all new brass, to start the process with, you don't save much. But you can reload straight walled pistol cases over and over .. and over.. and over.. and over again (I've got some 45 cases with 15+ loads on them - I don't even bother to sort the stuff by "generation").

One pound of Unique will do a thousand 9mm loads: $16.99

Bullets: $112 / 1000 (source: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900176936/winchester-bullets-9mm-355-diameter-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-flat-base)

Casings (assuming worst case, you have NONE): $35/1000 (Source; http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=684818)

Primers: $29/1000

That gives us a total of $193 for 1000 rounds (19.30 ea)

NEXT time you load though you don't need the brass, so your cost goes down to 158.. you save the $35 on casings. So now you've beat Blazer pricing by $52

Now, you could buy lead bullets (instead of casting).

I just picked the first entry off Google search, I'm sure more thorough shopping would yield better deals: http://www.badmanbullets.com/OnlineStore/9mm-115-rn.html

$75 (shipped) per 1000.

So now you're down to $121 / 1000 - and saving $89/1000 over the cheap, non-reloadable Blazer junk at 21/100 (210/1000)

Hell, if you found a case of 1000 rounds of ammo at $89 under the cheapest price anywhere, you'd think you had the deal of the century.

You do. It's in your basement on a press. Get a Dillon or other progressive press and you can crank out those 1000 rounds after work, and still have time for a shower, supper, and a movie.

Jenrick
December 27, 2012, 07:20 PM
I recommend Precision Delta for bullets, best jacketed stuff out there and at a dang good price.

Anyway back to the OP: LGS had pretty much everything in stock, they weren't letting anyone purchase more then 100rds of 5.56/.223 per day to prevent a run on it.

-Jenrick

Onward Allusion
December 27, 2012, 07:34 PM
22LR is not going to be in short supply anytime soon. It just isn't one of those panic calibers to most people. Local Wally World is out of 9mm, 40S&W, & 45ACP, however.

mizer67
December 27, 2012, 07:52 PM
true... but if you do not cast your own bullets - the savings become much, much smaller. I looked the the Midway catalogue and when I take the cheapest 9mm bullets they have and the cheapest casings/primer + gun powder .... the savings get fairly small. not to mention the reloading equipment and learning curve... that being said: if 9mm for cheapo range ammo stays above $28/100rds.... it's something worth considering. but definitely not when prices come back down and I can get Blazer 9mm for $21/100rds...
Quit shopping in the Midway catalogue if you want to save any money reloading.

Montana Gold or Precision Delta bullets and large lots of powder and primers from PVI and you can reload 124gr 9mm for ~$125/1K.

Good luck finding any decent new production ammo for 2X that amount at the store.

JFrame
December 27, 2012, 08:09 PM
I'm OK on 9mm and .45 but I've been able to buy a couple boxes here and there since the CT shooting. I JUST bought a Ruger 10/22 a few weeks ago, never got around to buying some bulk packages of .22lr and now it sucks. The only .22 in stores I've seen is the overpriced Swamp People .22lr crap and .22 shot shells which do me no good.

What I've learned: I need a .22 magnum or .17hmr bolt rifle, I need a .22lr revolver, and basically any handgun NOT chambered in 9mm, .40, or .45.

Also learned that I should have bought some 25rd mags for my 10/22 immediately after getting it.:banghead:


And reloading is a new priority to get into.


Interesting that you say that about the .22 WMR. During the last "ammo scare" back in 2009, I noticed that my local Wally World was TOTALLY depleted of ALL ammo except .22 WMR and .22 CB shorts.

I thought, "Hmmm...", and within the next year, acquired a .22 WMR semiauto rifle and a couple of .22 WMR handguns. I'd wanted to get into .22 mags for the past few years anyway, so it's not like I forced myself into the move. But it just seemed like a nice "tweener" caliber to add to my repertoire...


.

heeler
December 27, 2012, 08:17 PM
I walked into Academy Sports on the way home along with $150 worth of gift cards and they had quite a few of those plastic ammo boxes that have Blazer Brass in seven box 350 count rounds for $99 in both 9mm and 40.
Grabbed two.
They also had some 38 Special,22,357,but no 380 or 32 ACP.
did not see any 223 OR 7.62X39.

jrdolall
December 27, 2012, 11:28 PM
Academy tonight had .22 LR in the Swamp People box for ......$44 for 325 I think it was. No other 22 LR at all.

jrdolall
December 29, 2012, 10:22 PM
I found some Armscor bulk .22 on CTD and ordered some for $18.69-500. Not my favorite .22 but fine for plinking. Blazer is non-existent anywhere. I bought a couple of pistol mags and a couple boxes of .223 hunting ammo and shipping was around $18.00.
As always when using CTD make sure everything comes from the same warehouse or they will hit you with double shipping charges. Everything I ordered came out of A.

Quick Shot xMLx
December 30, 2012, 02:35 AM
Easier to say what ammo I can't find around here. 9mm, .223, 7.62x39, .45, .357mag, .22lr, and 12ga buckshot/slugs are impossible to find. Everything else is still in stock.

XD Fan
December 30, 2012, 03:58 AM
I just bought 150rounds of 45acp at WM. there were three boxes still on the shelf. No 9mm or bulk .22lr though.

ColtPythonElite
December 30, 2012, 04:02 AM
22LR is not going to be in short supply anytime soon. It just isn't one of those panic calibers to most people. Local Wally World is out of 9mm, 40S&W, & 45ACP, however.
You obviously haven't been shopping for .22lr lately.

alsaqr
December 30, 2012, 09:47 AM
You obviously haven't been shopping for .22lr lately.

Indeed, both Wal-Marts in Lawton are out of .22 ammo. Not one round on the shelves.

rodinal220
December 30, 2012, 10:21 AM
577 Snider
577-450 Martini-Henry
All my loose Black powder and ball/shot,flint,slow match
38s&w
44 russian
44 colt
Air rifle pellets

xjsnake
December 30, 2012, 10:46 AM
Academy tonight had .22 LR in the Swamp People box for ......$44 for 325 I think it was. No other 22 LR at all.

:what:

And here I thought I overpaid when I spent $24 on that same box at my LGS yesterday to feed my new Mark III.

Silent Bob
December 30, 2012, 11:10 AM
Everybody is saying "reload, save money" but all my shops are cleaned out of reloading supplies as well.

I noticed after the IDPA match yesterday one guy stayed behind to dig lead out of the berm.

tech30528
December 30, 2012, 11:11 AM
Interesting that supplies of 22LR are among the scarce considering how many consider it a substandard round. Something interesting to note: when the government contracted for 450 million rounds on 9 mm there were people who were worried about it. 22LR production is about 2.5 BILLION per year and it's almost all sold out along with basically all existing stock of 223, 9mm and around here 308. Kind of makes you wonder....

jrdolall
December 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
I was a bit surprised that .22 was selling out at the local stores. Just didn't see it as a panic type of item. I mean you can still find 30-06 everywhere so why would .22 dry up. Now 22LR is almost sold out on all the websites unless you are looking for Match ammo and want to pay $10 per shot. I got a CTD catalog in the mail this week and decided to look on the site. Just go to CTD and look up different types. They show out on more than they have in stock but they were the only place I saw any bulk .22 in any kind of reasonable price range. I used ammoseek.com and the sites they listed as having bulk .22 were all OOS.
Assuming most of the gun control talk dies out over the next month it will still take a month or two to re-fill the pipeline and then it will get interesting. How many manufacturers will raise thei prices to distributors who will raise their prices to dealers? How many dealers will buy extra anticipating that sales will stay sky high? How many people have stocked up on more ammo than they will shoot in 5 years?
IF the assault weapons ban withers then I think there will be an abundace of ammo for a while. I don't think guns will be plentiful for quite a while though.

ColtPythonElite
December 30, 2012, 11:57 AM
If I recall correctly, Brownells shows they don't expect Federal 36 gr Champion .22lr until September 2013.

Batty67
December 30, 2012, 12:33 PM
No matter what happens, plenty of 22LR will be available in the near future.

WCraven
December 30, 2012, 12:44 PM
Well if we was at war (which we kind of our) and people buying up ammo, i have 200 rounds of 45acp but in no way could i carry those 200 rounds with me all day on a battlefield lol..:what:

Onward Allusion
December 30, 2012, 09:15 PM
ColtPythonElite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onward Allusion
22LR is not going to be in short supply anytime soon. It just isn't one of those panic calibers to most people. Local Wally World is out of 9mm, 40S&W, & 45ACP, however.

You obviously haven't been shopping for .22lr lately.

Original post was on the 27th. I just checked today. What a difference a few days make. This is crazy! Absolutely crazy.

WCraven
December 30, 2012, 10:05 PM
Just get back from Wally -World and it's empty .. saw afew boxs of 40 S&W and that was it on common ammo.

Grassman
December 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
The Academy sport store here just got a shipment of .223 in, they even had em at the check out lanes.

xjsnake
December 31, 2012, 12:34 AM
I stopped in at the local Academy today and they had almost nothing. Only match grade ammo in random calibers but nothing of use to most shooters. Oh and tons of 20 gauge shells.

JBrady555
December 31, 2012, 02:09 AM
I honestly haven't had trouble getting any kind of ammo. Sure the 9mm isn't as plentiful but it comes through walmart weekly and leaves as soon as it hits the shelves but if your on your game you can get your share. Also the local pawnshops around here that sell their ammo for a few more bucks a box than wally world is still stocked up for a last resort.

Ebbshot
December 31, 2012, 02:55 AM
So, when is the best time of day to hit Walmart? Does anyone know when they stock the shelves, generally?

rdhood
December 31, 2012, 02:13 PM
Our local Wally World had 3 or 4 boxes of centerfire/rimfire ammo on the shelves. They had a couple more boxes of some kind of shotgun ammo. I didn't even bother to see what caliber of this was.

Academy has a little more ammo, but even they have been heavily hit.

nathan
December 31, 2012, 03:47 PM
aimsurplus just sold out of 7.62 x 54 R Bulgarian in tins.

Warp
December 31, 2012, 05:30 PM
So, when is the best time of day to hit Walmart? Does anyone know when they stock the shelves, generally?

First thing in the morning, 7ish, give or take. Call and try to get a hold of sporting goods and see if anything came in that morning

ColtPythonElite
January 1, 2013, 12:18 PM
I can't believe there is one best time. Last week my local store stocked .22lr about 7 pm...My phone rang, I rang others...It was gone quickly.

jrdolall
January 1, 2013, 01:06 PM
I placed an order for .22 from CTD on the 29th and got an email asking me not to call and check the status of the order because this slowed them down. It stated that all employees were coming in early and working late to get caught up. Yesterday I got an email that my order had shipped.
They still show the .22 ammo in stock as of today but they are out of most everything else in .22.

Jon Coppenbarger
January 1, 2013, 08:05 PM
went to walmart this mourning and my local one still had most ammo in stock. they had like 5 sealed cases of standard ball 9mm and I went ahead and bought a case of 1000 made by fed.
The funning thing is when I got home I realized I did not own a 9mm. might make for good trade stuff. Think I better get some 32acp and 380acp and some more 45acp next time.

robertn
January 1, 2013, 09:35 PM
went to my wallyworld yesterday and they had a bunch of remington 22lr bulk packs (225 per) instead of the normal 525 bulks... walked out with 2250 rounds of plinking ammo... probably should have picked up the other 10 boxes as well... but i wasn't hurting for 22lr... so I figured I leave them and share with the next guy...

Slipknot_Slim
January 2, 2013, 03:02 PM
So, when is the best time of day to hit Walmart? Does anyone know when they stock the shelves, generally?
My Walmart gets shipments on a daily basis. What will be in them is anybody's guess. Mornings are usually the best time to check. Keep in mind that stocking guns and ammo is not the same as just stocking the shelves. Guns and ammo have to be secured.

jrdolall
January 2, 2013, 11:50 PM
Walmart in Alabama this evening. They did have some 9mm FMJ but that was the only pistol ammo. .17 HMR, hunting ammo and some shotgun shells.
Of course there was no employee in the department even if I had needed some 9mm.

ID-shooting
January 2, 2013, 11:54 PM
Did some gun shop browsing this week. Multiple places had stacks of 9mm and 7.62x39. Just picked up a few boxes of 9mm for the wife on the way home from work tonight. What is still running low is .223. It is out there but certainly not as plentiful

leadcounsel
January 3, 2013, 02:04 AM
I don't recall .22lr and x54R ever selling out!!!

TreeDoc
January 3, 2013, 03:42 AM
Learned my lesson after the last ammo scare, "buy cheap and stack it deep" was my creed.

Batty67
January 3, 2013, 09:39 AM
The Wal-Mart close to my work, which is fricking huge, had no 45 ACP in FMJ (just some expensive JHP SD rounds, and not many), had several bozes of WInchester 22 LR in 555 so I bought two. Takes me to 5500 rounds and I have one Ruger 10/22 total so I think that will do...

jrdolall
January 3, 2013, 09:52 AM
The Wal-Mart close to my work, which is fricking huge, had no 45 ACP in FMJ (just some expensive JHP SD rounds, and not many), had several bozes of WInchester 22 LR in 555 so I bought two. Takes me to 5500 rounds and I have one Ruger 10/22 total so I think that will do...
.22LR is the only ammo I really worry about as far as long or short term shortages. I shoot a lot of 9mm and a decent amount of .380 but I have enough of those to last me a while with a little bit of caution. 5.45, .223, 7.62x39 and 54 I shoot purely for funsies and targets so I can, thoeretically anyway, go without that ammo for a while. 2,000 rounds of .22 can easily be gone in a weekend since we shoot so many different guns in that caliber. If the current shortage on ammo lasts 6 months I would be in trouble on .380 and .223 and .22. I just bought a bunch of .22 from CTD, should arrive tomorrow based on the UPS tracking data, but a "bunch" of .22 is relative.

musicman10_1
January 3, 2013, 10:34 AM
went to walmart this mourning and my local one still had most ammo in stock. they had like 5 sealed cases of standard ball 9mm and I went ahead and bought a case of 1000 made by fed.
The funning thing is when I got home I realized I did not own a 9mm. might make for good trade stuff. Think I better get some 32acp and 380acp and some more 45acp next time.
I wish that people would not do stuff like this.

Havok7416
January 3, 2013, 11:01 AM
I wish that people would not do stuff like this.
I agree. Let the people who DO own and shoot in that caliber have access to ammo they can use. No sense joining the panic and driving down availability.

pockets
January 3, 2013, 11:27 AM
A few years ago it dawned upon me that ammo and it's components were never going to go down in price......so I stocked up at that time. Then I add to it all when I see deals.
If you are just now buying, it's been too late for quite awhile.
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gunNoob
January 3, 2013, 11:30 AM
My ammo shipped from ammotogo yesterday! WOOO!!!

jrdolall
January 4, 2013, 10:09 PM
I got all my ammo from Graf's on Monday. 5.45, 6.5x55 and 7.62x39. The order from STD showed up today. 5,000 rounds of .22lr, .223 hunting ammo and a couple of pistol mags. I really need some bulk .223 but that will have to wait I guess.

bayesian
January 4, 2013, 11:26 PM
So the problem with ammo is something unique relative to almost every other consumer product. So, imagine if people got twitchy about milk, or cheerios, or whatever. I guarantee you that we would see the exact same thing with these products. The principle problem with the ammo market is that ... so many people have a very low panic threshold.

No product could cope with this kind of spikey demand that we see in the gun and ammo market. If everyone would just chill out, and not get our collective undies in a knot, then even if we wanted to buy more than we did last year, we could smoothly move the market towards producing more of the product that everyone wants to buy.

Frankly, this kind of spikey panicky market would make any decent venture capitalist think twice before entering it.

Things will even out, production capacity with gradually expand, and if we could all take a collective deep breath, everything will be fine (in an absolute sense, granted there may be relative changes but in an absolute sense, we'll be fine).

I looked at how much ammo I expended over the last year, and i've basically set out a schedule so that if i wanted to lay a little bit away, i'd buy just a little bit more at each time that i would typically buy.

If you are buying your year's supply of ammo in one purchase, then you are part of the problem. Just like if you were trying to buy all the milk that you would buy in one year at once, that would be a problem (yeah, i know, ammo has a longer shelf life, but you get the picture).

Frankly, if you are buying ammo and you don't even have a gun to shoot that ammo, then you are the absolute worst of the worst, at least as regards the gun and ammo situation. In that respect, I quite severely dislike you.

Warp
January 5, 2013, 01:21 PM
So the problem with ammo is something unique relative to almost every other consumer product. So, imagine if people got twitchy about milk, or cheerios, or whatever. I guarantee you that we would see the exact same thing with these products. The principle problem with the ammo market is that ... so many people have a very low panic threshold.

No product could cope with this kind of spikey demand that we see in the gun and ammo market. If everyone would just chill out, and not get our collective undies in a knot, then even if we wanted to buy more than we did last year, we could smoothly move the market towards producing more of the product that everyone wants to buy.

Frankly, this kind of spikey panicky market would make any decent venture capitalist think twice before entering it.

Things will even out, production capacity with gradually expand, and if we could all take a collective deep breath, everything will be fine (in an absolute sense, granted there may be relative changes but in an absolute sense, we'll be fine).

I looked at how much ammo I expended over the last year, and i've basically set out a schedule so that if i wanted to lay a little bit away, i'd buy just a little bit more at each time that i would typically buy.

If you are buying your year's supply of ammo in one purchase, then you are part of the problem. Just like if you were trying to buy all the milk that you would buy in one year at once, that would be a problem (yeah, i know, ammo has a longer shelf life, but you get the picture).

Frankly, if you are buying ammo and you don't even have a gun to shoot that ammo, then you are the absolute worst of the worst, at least as regards the gun and ammo situation. In that respect, I quite severely dislike you.

Being prepared is a good thing.

And if you think that lots and lots of Americans wanting lots and lots of guns, magazines, and ammo is a "problem", I quite severely dislike you.

Lots and lots of people wanting lots and lots of guns, magazines, and ammo is precisely why I think there will be no significant legislation and no (national) AWB.

I am not quite sure why so many of us think that the popularity of guns/shooting is a bad thing. This thought process perplexes me.

Batty67
January 5, 2013, 02:00 PM
I agree that buying ammunition for a gun a person has no plans to get would be irksome (and stupid).

Warp
January 5, 2013, 02:02 PM
I agree that buying ammunition for a gun a person has no plans to get would be irksome (and stupid).

I don't think anybody said that.

Somebody did comment about buying ammo for a gun you don't have...but a gun you don't have a gu you have no plans to get are two entirely different things. ;)

toivo
January 5, 2013, 02:18 PM
I'm lucky that I have a fondness for mouseguns. Caliber war discussions aside, I've had no trouble finding plenty of .32ACP and .25ACP. As for .22LR, I bought when it was much cheaper, and I have enough to last me several years. There are bricks of Federal 510 in my cabinet with sticker prices of less than $10.

Fishslayer
January 5, 2013, 02:18 PM
You MBAs can clarify this for me. As I understand it a lot of companies will let inventory get to zero or close to it at year's end for tax purposes?

Add that a lot of personnel are on vacation around Christmas/New Year.

Add a demand spike like the current one and "poof." Instant shortage.

Am I on the right track?

jrdolall
January 5, 2013, 04:12 PM
Don't know that I have ever bought any ammo for a gun I didn't have. I HAVE bought a gun for which I had no ammo though. I bought one earlier today:)

Alaska444
January 5, 2013, 04:16 PM
Theres still plenty in the ff that ive seen at Walmart and Academy Sports : 12 g birdshots , .22 WMR, .17 HMR, .243s, .3006, .308s, .30 30, 7 RM, 300 WM, .premium SDs like .45 ACP JHPs, cowboy .45 Colt, .357 SIG, .204, etc. So maybe next time around you know what calibers to buy.

The ones that go quick are the .223s, 9mms, 7.62 x 39,.22 LRs, etc... These are the SHTF ammo that are popular to the general public . For me the important ones to have are plenty of .22 LRs for survival and future plinking. Then .45ACP (sidearm), 12 gauge 00 bcks and 7.62 x 39 for defense of lives and limbs.

Whats yours?
No shortage of my .444 Marlin either. Imagine that.

Warp
January 5, 2013, 04:17 PM
Don't know that I have ever bought any ammo for a gun I didn't have. I HAVE bought a gun for which I had no ammo though. I bought one earlier today:)

I have, but the only time it was more than a few boxes I planned on getting a gun in that cartridge within a month (and did).

jrdolall
January 5, 2013, 04:19 PM
Lots of personnel on vacation around Christmas is more of a amanagement situation as hourly employees dont generally get that much vacation. I nmy line of work I can barely get anything done between Dec 15th and Jan 5th.

We always tried to get inventory low for our FISCAL year end but not for the calendar year end. Many companies do not use the calendar year because for a lot of reasons.

I think the shortages we see right now are more an issue of the huge, nearly unprecedented, sale of guns since the CT disaster. These new gun owners had to buy ammo for their guns added to the fact that ammo sales are high right before Christmas as people try to buy last minute gifts. Then people like me went pick up a few boxes of .223 and saw what was going on so we bought extra if we could find it. We have a demand situation right now. That will be replaced, assuming no major new gun legislation, with a supply situation.

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