difference between tula small rifle and 223 primers


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Reefinmike
December 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
Does anyone know the difference between the two? Im loading for a couple 357 revolvers, a 380 and an AR. as of recently, I have locally purchased and used a couple thousand small rifle primers in the ar and 357's, cci and winchester with no problems. I have loaded up a box of 380 using SRP for my TCP but havent shot them yet. honestly im not too worried if small rifle primers arent 100% reliable in the 380 as I rarely shoot it and have a couple years supply of reloads for it at my current shooting pace.

I have used tula small pistol primers without a hitch and havent heard anything bad about rifle primers. This primer rush came at a very unfortunate time :banghead: I usually do an order every 6 months, and well, christmas cash was supposed to fund this next one so I had to wait. in six months time I'll probably use 6,000 small pistol and 2,000 small rifle. would I be fine just ordering 8k tula small rifle or should I order 6k small rifle and 2k tula 223 primers?

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medalguy
December 27, 2012, 12:56 AM
The Tula 5.56 primers have a slightly harder cup. I think that's the only difference.

bds
December 27, 2012, 01:08 AM
I tested both Tula SR and Tula .223 primers on this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7806985#post7806985) and their cups seemed softer than some Tula SP primer cups. ;)

I would get the .223 primers for the AR and use the SR for the pistol loads (picture below shows rifle primers fired in Glock).

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=154977&stc=1&d=1324243701

Otto
December 27, 2012, 01:16 AM
I don't use rifle primers in pistol cartridges due to the risk of breach face erosion.
Some people get by with it....others don't.
I especially wouldn't use Tula's 223 primers in pistols, the cups are too hard for handgun loads.

Canuck-IL
December 27, 2012, 05:52 AM
Same description as the Wolf labeled primers ... 223 is harder cup and hotter.

SMALL RIFLE PRIMER (part # QQQSR) - Used as a standard small rifle primer. Perfect for the 30 carbine and 223 standard loads. Many people use this primer in bench and other loads for the 223. This primer is a copper colored primer.

SMALL RIFLE MAGNUM PRIMER (part# QQQSRM) - This is the primer we had before for use in the 5.56 loads and hot 223 loads. A thick cup for the higher pressure. We sold a lot of these primers earlier this year. The new lot is brass colored instead of nickel.

SMALL RIFLE 223 (part # QQQSR223) NEW NEW This is the newest primer available in the Wolf line. It is ever so slightly hotter than the small rifle magnum primer and it comes with a brass or copper colored thick cup. This primer can be used in place of the SRM primer or used when a different powder is used that is hard to ignite.

/Bryan

JLDickmon
December 27, 2012, 06:08 AM
I can't think of any powder used in the double-deuce-trey that would be "hard to ignite"

stubbicatt
December 27, 2012, 03:00 PM
I can't think of any powder used in the double-deuce-trey that would be "hard to ignite"
Guess that depends to some extent on how cold it is outside, no? I was at or below negative 40 farenheit the other day. Rifles perform differently when it is that cold.

mizer67
December 27, 2012, 07:55 PM
I can't think of any powder used in the double-deuce-trey that would be "hard to ignite"
Many users have experienced hang-fires and failures to light H335/WC844 with the Wolf SRM primers.

I've had this experience as well using H335.

The only issues I've heard of are with this powder or its pull down equivalent.

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