If they ban "high capacity clips"...


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Skribs
December 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
If they ban "high capacity clips, which can hold more than 10 rounds", does that mean my magazines are safe? Because, you know, they're not clips...

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Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 11:43 AM
Wow, Skribs, that's a dazzling legal loophole you've found there.

We haven't had a single person mention something about someone saying clips instead of magazines during any of these discussions.

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 11:44 AM
Don't go away, I'm doing a Google image search to find a gold star for you.

Tommygunn
December 28, 2012, 11:44 AM
:scrutiny: You're kidding ...... right? :what:

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 11:46 AM
There's no way we can lose when we've got such clever tactics on our side!


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=176749&d=1356709548

Damn, that was some brilliant and hilarious stuff, Skribs.

Mind = Blown

leadcounsel
December 28, 2012, 11:49 AM
If the law bans anything that holds 11+ rounds, does that mean a cardboard box or ammo can will become illegal!?

Skribs
December 28, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jorg I woke up 40 minutes ago and I don't drink coffee. Are you being sarcastic?

Tommygunn
December 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
I sense a pattern forming.............

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 11:57 AM
If the law bans anything that holds 11+ rounds, does that mean a cardboard box or ammo can will become illegal!?

Woah! Check out this zinger from someone who purports to be a lawyer! Clearly with your extensive legal expertise you know the law will read exactly like that: "We hereby ban anything that holds 11+ rounds."

Just when you thought we were in trouble with potential legislation, we are saved at the last minute by some clever quips.

Alan Gura has nothing on you guys.

19-3Ben
December 28, 2012, 12:01 PM
I feel like any more silly comments and any minute now the men with the white coats are going to collect Jorg and put him in a nice comfy room with lots of pads!!! They'll even give him one of those jackets where he gets to hug himself a lot!!!

I really feel for the mods the past two weeks.

crazyjennyblack
December 28, 2012, 12:02 PM
In seriousness, I believe the law will say something about an "ammunition feeding device" or another type of all-inclusive term. Make of that one what you will, but please no photoshopped images of ammo sitting at the dinner table with a fork and knife.

Truly, before 10am this kind of stuff just falls flat.

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
For those curious about the actual language rather than just trying to be clever, I suspect it would be similar to the 1994 ban that read like this:

(b) DEFINITION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 110102(b), is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
`(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
`(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
`(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.'.

Jorg Nysgerrig
December 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
They'll even give him one of those jackets where he gets to hug himself a lot!!!
That doesn't sound half bad, I could really use a hug. :(

Eleanor416Rigby
December 28, 2012, 12:17 PM
Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.

Above was quoted from an NRA source purporting to be quoting the actual language of the Senator Feinstein to-be-proposed bill. Other language prohibits manufacture and import of 11+ round magazines.

IMHO Way worse than a high capacity magazine ban is that "Gandfathered" weapons would all have to be registered, with a fee to be paid to Uncle Sam, and then turned over to Uncle Sam (Big Brother Sam) when the owner dies, according to the same NRA source.

She's asking for a lot. If she gets it, she'll ask for more.

Disclaimer: All the above language regarding the possible future bill is from an NRA source, and I did not do any independent research to verify it.

gp911
December 28, 2012, 12:59 PM
The gold star bit cracked me up! Now if only I could find the part in the new bill about the shoulder part that goes up. I need help justifying having one of those things...

edfrompa
December 28, 2012, 01:00 PM
I need more duct tape my head is about to explode.

AlexanderA
December 28, 2012, 01:22 PM
Speaking of "ammunition feeding devices," Feinstein seems to be fixated on "feed strips," since she mentions them at every opportunity. What uses "feed strips"? Japanese LMG's? Hotchkiss guns? Benet-Mercie Machine Rifles? She can't be serious focussing on these antiques!

I'm worried about belts and links for belt-fed guns. Registering each individual link under the NFA? Ridiculous!

R.W.Dale
December 28, 2012, 01:28 PM
If they ban "high capacity clips, which can hold more than 10 rounds", does that mean my magazines are safe? Because, you know, they're not clips...

I've been waiting a couple weeks for the excuse to post this.

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rduckwor
December 28, 2012, 02:25 PM
Will the news media still be able to get them to wave around on TV?

RMD

Girodin
December 28, 2012, 03:34 PM
The language off the bill will likely state something like "ammunition feeding device."

Disclaimer: All the above language regarding the possible future bill is from an NRA source, and I did not do any independent research to verify it.

This language is what is coming from Feinsteins summary of her bill posted on her website. Her assault weapons ban would outlaw this:

http://img1.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/495/media/images/Remington_552_BDL_Speedmaster_Rifle_1.JPG

What she has put on her website is amazingly expansive. It sweeps in guns that I do not think even the biggest chicken littles thought they would target. It is a step shy of simply being a ban on all semi autos. I think it may be a strategy to have a position to "compromise" from. However it is such a tall order it may serve to really rally opposition too it.

To go with the technical theme of the OP, I'm intrigued as to how my 10 round 458 Socom mags are going to be treated, as opposed to my strikingly similar 30 round 5.56 mags.

Plan2Live
December 28, 2012, 08:12 PM
Another thread speculating on 10-22s was shut down with the following Modertor comment. "Until something is actually filed, it's just speculation."

Just curious, has anything actually been filed referencing magazine size, clip size or ammunition feeding device size or are we just speculating here?

gbran
December 28, 2012, 09:08 PM
Don't kid yourself, no clips will be safe.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/gbran/Banana_Clip.jpg

klyph
December 28, 2012, 10:29 PM
I'm intrigued as to how my 10 round 458 Socom mags are going to be treated, as opposed to my strikingly similar 30 round 5.56 mags.
Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I'm guessing that sales of 458 socom mags would become very popular even with people who don't own one.

Robert
December 28, 2012, 10:33 PM
Ug enough.

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