Sell, wait and sell, hold forever, what to do with AR15?


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breakingcontact
December 28, 2012, 12:14 PM
Please vote in the poll.

If you had an extra AR15, would you sell now, wait a bit and sell, never sell or?

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Gtscotty
December 28, 2012, 12:43 PM
Hmm, I'd suspect that we are currently seeing the peak in prices, I really don't expect the average selling price for a basic AR to go much over $2k. Also, I really don't think an AWB will go through as the talk seems to be subsiding somewhat in the face of real issues (Fiscal Cliff). BUT, even if it does most of the AWB proposals that I've seen floating around call for a ban on, amongst other things, the TRANSFER of "Assault Weapons". If that were to pass, there would obviously be no legal market for ARs...

All in all, I'd say if you are going to sell, you should do it pretty soon. I saw a used S&W M&P15 ORC like mine go for $1875 on Gunbroker the other day. :eek: Every bit of my financial education is screaming at me to sell off one of my AR's for a cool $1k profit... don't think I can quite bring myself to actually do it though.

breakingcontact
December 28, 2012, 12:48 PM
I dont have the quantitative data to support it, but it looks like prices are cooling a bit already.

TIMC
December 28, 2012, 12:57 PM
I have 6 AR's but none of them I consider "EXTRA". I have bought and sold them for years and finally have exactly what I want so no I'm not selling.

sixgunner455
December 28, 2012, 01:19 PM
If I had an extra, I'd be hanging on to it.

If I had a dozen, I'd consider selling a few of them.

redneck2
December 28, 2012, 01:33 PM
I visited the LGS about 30 minutes ago (11:30 am on 12/28). They had just gotten in seven S&W M&P's. They are selling for $1,499. If i could make $1,000 right now, I'd be all over it.

J_McLeod
December 28, 2012, 01:33 PM
if I had an EXTRA AR15, I'd sell it now. However the only gun out my dozen that I consider to be extra is my Tomcat. I'd have to have a lot AR15s to consider one extra.

Starz26
December 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Not selling my better AR-15s, but a base model...

hell ya I am selling it...No need for the base models and they are just bringing too much profit not to sell.

One thing I have not heard discussed much is this:

I know everyone thinks the prices have peaked and people think that they will drop BUT.....


A few of my LGS that I am friends with and one that sells wholesale have all stated that the MFR has increased their prices to the dealers buy an average of 60%

If that is the case, I am afraid that prices may not come down for a while after the craze. It will take a slump in sales for the MFR's to reduce their prices...

Also, keep in mind that the LGS and online stores you think may be gouging you may be getting gouged themselves...

breakingcontact
December 28, 2012, 02:03 PM
Redneck2, we talking the M&P model not M&P Sport right?

okespe04
December 28, 2012, 02:12 PM
I can find another way to make money. I am keeping my rifles.

Inebriated
December 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
I would keep. I'd love the money, but if anything nasty happens down the road, I'd feel like I screwed myself out of an AR. Also, I generally don't sell guns. Once it's mine, it's MINE!

Cosmoline
December 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
I can't see a scenario where the AWB passes again, even in its original form. It's widely regarded as having been a failure and a mistake. The high cap ban has a theoretical chance of going through but it's remote. The Dems may go with a plan they know will lose in order to keep this issue alive for the next election cycle. Or they may come up with a taxation scheme to make what they need most of all--money. I think that's where Biden's mind may be going. But we shall see.

And as far as where the blow will fall, think of it this way. If you're going to cut off water supply you don't try to build a dam across the lake, you build it at the narrow points. That means primers, powder and key components at the manufacturing end--not finished products in the hands of hundreds of millions. So that's what I've been stocking up on. There are only a few companies making these things, but they're the sine quo non of everything post-flintlock. And they're already highly regulated with very narrow profit margins and small work forces. How hard would it be to tax the life out of them? Not difficult at all.

Dreamliner787
December 28, 2012, 05:59 PM
At this point it's not about the money. If I absolutely need the money then yes, but it'll be one of the last things of all of the other things I can sell first.

CoRoMo
December 28, 2012, 06:02 PM
...an extra AR15...
Is there such a thing?
...it looks like prices are cooling a bit already.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=323452026

Cooling from what? A plain jane 6920 selling today for 225% of it's fair market value. What were they selling for last week?

breakingcontact
December 28, 2012, 06:33 PM
Who's that?

Reloadron
December 28, 2012, 06:35 PM
Not selling, it's mine.

That would be my choice. I have a few and nope, no reason to sell.

Ron

Ro1911
December 28, 2012, 07:57 PM
I thought about selling my spare gun but I decided not to, I think things are only going to get worse

Hokkmike
December 28, 2012, 08:08 PM
If it was my only one I would keep it. If it is truly and extra then I might sell it and stock up on ammo, accessories, etc.

That is in fact, what I am doing.

breakingcontact
December 28, 2012, 09:42 PM
Think the prudent move is to wait and see what becomes reality in terms of law. Not to make decisions based out of fear. But I definitely get why some would sell and others would buy at this stage of the game.

bannockburn
December 28, 2012, 09:53 PM
Not interested in selling anything at this time. Will wait and see how this round plays out.

tactikel
December 28, 2012, 10:16 PM
I will never sell, nor will I turn in. :fire:

gobysky
December 28, 2012, 10:26 PM
I enjoy shooting the AR more than any of my other rifles. Worried about prices dropping and loosing my profit opportunity? Nah. My cars depreciated more in the last two years than the value of my entire gun collection.

highpower
December 28, 2012, 10:28 PM
I have a couple AR's. Why? because I want to have a couple AR's. I have had a A2 for over twenty years and for many years I wanted an Mforgery, so I built one from a PSA kit.

If I sold one I would be mad at myself for getting rid of a rifle that I like. People act like money is everything, yes it is nice to have, but what is it for? In my case beyond the basics like food and shelter, I go to work every day so that I can afford the other things that I like to have (old cars, motorcycles, guns).

So you make a grand on the sale of your AR, what are you going to do with it? For me, the only reason to sell a gun is if I don't particularly like it. Then I'll sell it and use the money to buy another that I want to have.

Coal Dragger
December 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
I do have an extra, and I'll be holding on to it.

I have a CMMG and a Colt, if I had to sell one the CMMG will go after being returned to its original condition.

Sgt_R
December 28, 2012, 10:32 PM
So you make a grand on the sale of your AR, what are you going to do with it?

Buy another gun or two, of course. I'm not cashing in, just trading up.

R

Walkalong
December 28, 2012, 10:35 PM
Standing pat here. Not selling. Not buying.

helotaxi
December 29, 2012, 10:05 AM
What's this "spare" word mean with regard to firearms. Not familiar with the term.

Girodin
December 29, 2012, 10:30 AM
That is the trouble with bubbles, you don't know when they will burst. Much of the gun control chatter has died. However, that may be in part to the much more pressing issue of the fiscal cliff.

I imagine when we see the actual wording of feinstein's bill and she actually introduces it things could get vamped up again. If the Senate passes some version of it that could do the same.

The real question is do you think it can pass the house? If so then prices may well climb as that looks more likely to people. I personally think the democrats will have a fight to get something through the senate, anything that gets through will be less expansive than what feinstein is proposing and that it wont get through the house anyways.

In sum, we may see more panic and fear, but prices are already so high that unless legislation looks as if it is very likely to pass I can't imagine prices going that much higher. I think the bubble will burst when it becomes apparent there will be no AWB. Those that paid $50 for $13 Pmags and $2500 for $900 guns will feel silly. Of course it is very hard to say when the bubble will pop. And of course non of us are clairvoyant and events could change the trajectory of some of this.

wally
December 29, 2012, 03:56 PM
"Two is one, one is none."

goldie
December 29, 2012, 04:11 PM
Im not letting my ar go,even though i can make a profit, but i am very very tempted to sell my hk usc.I got it for 1100, they are going for 2k,& 3 weeks ago you couldnt give this gun away.....

76shuvlinoff
December 29, 2012, 05:09 PM
If I could see into the future I'd bought into Microsoft in the late 70s.

Even though they are up 200% lately, not to mention beating my 401K all to hell, I'll probably keep my 6920.

Quentin
December 29, 2012, 10:59 PM
I have three and if pressed could sell two. But I'm hanging on to them because if I sell now it guarantees that there will be a ban and I'll never be able to replace them at any cost. But if I hang on then there won't be a ban.

Anyway, that's the way things work out for me so thank me for making it work out right for you guys! :D

MilliradianDOT
December 29, 2012, 11:38 PM
Am I the only one that thinks maybe, just maybe, the fiscal cliff issue is the single best thing that could have come up at this particular time? I mean, what else could possibly take the often narrow eyes of the American people off the the "terrifying and murderous" assault weapon than potential economic tragedy? If there is such thing as a silver lining, gun owners might be the only ones who recognize this one.

Rem.222
December 30, 2012, 01:24 AM
2 Months ago I sold a Mini 14 for peanuts compared to what it would bring today. I don't have an AR or AK or Mini or any other semi auto cf rifle. Ammo is gone for now, reloading supplies for 223 dried up for most part and I'm to broke to know. I'm hoping loading supplies by summer pdog season comes around I can pop some of them if not I'm not hurt to bad. What stinks I have been in broke so long my reloading supplies are running low. Hoarders:( have had same effect as a new gun bill would to me.

Bobson
December 30, 2012, 01:31 AM
There's a gamble involved here. There are two basic potential scenarios:

1. Feinstein's bill won't go anywhere. Prices will drop within six months.
2. Feinstein's bill will be signed into law, and you're stuck with whatever you have for the next decade, minimum.

If you believe option one is more likely, may as well sell it.
If you believe option two is more likely, I wouldn't sell an AR15 for anything under ten grand. Maybe not even then.

I don't have enough faith in Congress to believe option one. I wouldn't sell it for anything.

ColtPythonElite
December 30, 2012, 01:36 AM
If you can make a big profit and would rather use the money somewhere else, then sell.

M1key
December 30, 2012, 12:09 PM
If I could see into the future I'd bought into Microsoft in the late 70s.

Even though they are up 200% lately...

How about silver at $4 and gold at $300 just 10 years ago? :cool:

M

helotaxi
December 30, 2012, 02:51 PM
How about silver at $4 and gold at $300 just 10 years ago? :cool:

M
Nothing more than a real indicator of the devaluation of the US dollar.

nwhunter
December 30, 2012, 03:04 PM
No, I won't sell my ar style rifles, but I took a tec-dc9 on part trade last month just to sell or trade it in this time of inflated paranoia. I would not even considered taking it in trade even 6 months age. Keith

cpirtle
December 30, 2012, 03:40 PM
I have 6 AR's (one is a pistol) that aren't going anywhere.

I made a nice buy for a match grade AR locally, once I put a collapsible stock on it I'm going to list it on Gunbroker.

I think if someone only has one or two AR's they'd be crazy to sell, who knows what's coming down the pike. Best case scenario in 6 months they will be worth what they were worth 3 weeks ago, worst case scenario they will be the last ones you ever own. I've learned not to speculate the intentions of crooked politicians, just prepare for the worst and hope for the best (and burn up the phone lines calling the ones in your districts).

TanklessPro
December 30, 2012, 09:05 PM
I have been toying with the idea of selling one of my "assault rifles" and rolling the money into a few 1911's. I really don't want to but a few nice 1911's are tempting. After reading this post I'm second guessing what to do?

texgunner
December 31, 2012, 06:19 AM
I would wait and hang on to your ARs. That awb may not pass and if it does it'll be watered down.

552BDL
December 31, 2012, 09:18 AM
You can never have too many ARs.


Hold and maintain em all. Children and grandchildren, nieces and nephews in the future come first.

Girodin
December 31, 2012, 10:35 AM
Am I the only one that thinks maybe, just maybe, the fiscal cliff issue is the single best thing that could have come up at this particular time? I mean, what else could possibly take the often narrow eyes of the American people off the the "terrifying and murderous" assault weapon than potential economic tragedy? If there is such thing as a silver lining, gun owners might be the only ones who recognize this one.

I figured the AWB talk was one part anti democratic forces seeking to push their agenda of disarment and control and one part politicians that have done a shockingly woeful job on the economy looking to distract people from their abdominal handling of the fiscal cliff while we all go over the edge and our pathetic economy takes a turn for the worse.

cfullgraf
December 31, 2012, 11:06 AM
I will keep mine. I am concerned that i would not be able to replace them, at any cost, in the near future.

Swampman
December 31, 2012, 12:46 PM
I know what spare ribs are.
What's a spare gun?
Even if I don't need it at a particular moment, I've got friends and family that might.
The only good reason for selling a gun is to buy a better gun, or ammo and components.*

*Unless you need the money for basic survival, medical bills etc.
Read Steinbeck's 'The Grapes of Wrath' to see how long people can continue to hold onto their guns in the face of adversity.

"...politicians that have done a shockingly woeful job on the economy looking to distract people from their abdominal handling of the fiscal cliff..."

It makes me sick to my stomach too!

AlexanderA
December 31, 2012, 02:01 PM
What's an "extra" AR-15? You can never have too many AR-15's!

tomrkba
December 31, 2012, 02:42 PM
If you are going to sell, wait until the ban is passed, but has yet to take effect. A $1,000 rifle will suddenly become very expensive.

I think Feinstein does not have the votes and there will be no AWB. Prices should return to normal--unless manufacturers decide to raise prices. I remember how low cost pistols used to be. Now I can get a Savage bolt action rifle for under $500, but a SIG can cost $1049! Pricing seems completely arbitrary.

smithman 10
December 31, 2012, 10:52 PM
I kept my Colt A2 Sporter and had my local gun shop sell my Smith and Wesson Sport. They made money, I made money and a guy who didn't have an AR got one. Everyone wins.

I like the longer barreled fixed stock gun better anyway. I'm 65 - one AR is good enough for me.

2zulu1
January 1, 2013, 02:51 AM
No transactions here, no need to bring attention to myself.

kp
January 1, 2013, 11:49 PM
Can't sell mine. As a father with two sons, I feel its my responsibility to ensure these AR's are available for them when they get older. My ARs have provided me with a sense of security in the event of a SHTF incident. I cannot leave my sons defenseless.

rondog
January 1, 2013, 11:51 PM
Extra? How can you have an extra one?

coloradokevin
January 1, 2013, 11:59 PM
I don't have a pile of AR-15's laying around here. If I did, I'd probably sell a few. I have probably 1 or 2 less than I'd like to have if a ban were to go into effect, and probably just the right number as things are at the moment.

justice06rr
January 2, 2013, 02:41 AM
Only sell if you can make a handsome profit (which you can nowadays) and have a few extra AR's on hand.

If you only have 2 AR's, keep them.

targetshooter22
January 2, 2013, 06:52 PM
I guess I'm a little different. Note, in my case this is hypothetical; I have no AR (or any other semi-automatic centerfire rifles), but if I did, I would gladly doubly my money. Heck, I could have (another) really nice centerfire bolt rifle with nice glass, and a grand left over for the price of one AR. :)

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