Will prices ever fall back to pre election levels?


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vamo
December 28, 2012, 10:17 PM
So I've noticed that a few guns I have had my eye on for some time have predictably increased in price on buds(and I assume everywhere else). The guns in question aren't the evil semi-auto rifles that everyone is so concerned about right now (though they are on the wishlist). Since I am a bit new to the scene maybe someone who has seen restrictions and buying panics can answer the title question for me. I am assuming no new restrictions will pass with this question (I know not a safe assumption and I have written my congresscritters). But assuming after all the hysteria dies down we're left with basically the status quo, does the reduced demand generally lead to reasonable prices or do manufactors/sellers see what people are willing to pay and leave things at the inflated price.

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JohnnyK
December 28, 2012, 11:16 PM
my assumption is yes... prices will fall... due to a variety of reasons... including I want a sig 556 patrol swat and don't want to pay 2k for it... :) they won't be able to ban the rifles in and of themselves... maybe normal cap mags... and I know sure as heck that the various manufacturors won't just roll over and die... they will all fight like hell to stay in business... our economy can't afford to lose those jobs... so they have to make more evil black rifles for us to enjoy... these things come and go in cycles...

wyohome
December 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
They will never go down to the prices of 6 months ago. They will go down though, IMO. Gas is looking pretty cheap now at $3.10 per gallon, how quickly people forget that it was 1/2 that 4 years ago.Life goes on.

pendennis
December 29, 2012, 12:08 PM
When Obama was first elected in 2008, gun prices, especially AR-types really skyrocketed. But a couple of years later, they were back down to pre-2009 levels. This, too, shall pass.

nathan
December 29, 2012, 12:41 PM
ARs will only soar more higher and higher as we hear more crazies using them to shoot people. ARs made in USA , no longer the cheapo Chicom AK 47 . Loonies are using American made weapons now guess what the economy is doing well. The more demand for AR and 5.56 , it will only lead to higher and higher prices. So i see it not going down anytime soon even two years from now.

musicman10_1
December 29, 2012, 03:25 PM
I hear/read people say this but I sure as heck was not paying $1.55/ gallon 4 years ago. It has been a really long time since I remember seeing gas under 2 bucks a gallon.

YMMV (seems appropriate)

cfullgraf
December 29, 2012, 03:30 PM
Prices may drop a bit, but I doubt they will go back to pre-election prices until the gun ban issue is decided in our favor.

Any move on the ban in their favor will begin a new round of panic buying worse than before.

Redlg155
December 29, 2012, 04:30 PM
I 'm not certain imported firearms will fall to pre panic levels. Ak prices continue to climb. I'm glad I got my SCAR 17 FDE for $2600. 4-5k is the going price now.

joeschmoe
December 29, 2012, 05:44 PM
Everything is getting more expensive. As long as the value of the dollar keeps falling, our buying power will drop.

Food, gas, clothes, etc.

rule303
December 29, 2012, 06:19 PM
IF restrictive legislation is not passed in the next few months, I believe prices will drop drastically. The market was pretty saturated with AR type rifles prior to the current situation. Look at the number of sub-$700 AR's on the market a few weeks ago compared to 10 years ago. People who never really even wanted one are now sitting on them. If the economy does not improve, and they are not legislated out of existence, these will be on the market at fire sale prices. Newly manufactured rifles will come down in price also, to compete with the glut of used ones on the market.

Balrog
December 29, 2012, 06:35 PM
I would not expect fire sale prices. People have made that type of claim many times before, but the fire sale prices never actually happen. Things will return to near normal prices, but dont expect to buy anything cheap. There is too much uncertainty.

Warp
December 29, 2012, 06:38 PM
I would not expect fire sale prices. People have made that type of claim many times before, but the fire sale prices never actually happen. Things will return to near normal prices, but dont expect to buy anything cheap. There is too much uncertainty.

This is roughly what I think

ColtPythonElite
December 29, 2012, 06:52 PM
I predict within a year, it will be a buyer's market for pre-owned, rarely fired if ever fired AR rifles. Right now there are hoards of people buying one even though they didn't really want it for fear that they may not be able to in the future. Ban or not, a lot of those people will likely decide they really didn't want the gun to begin with and want to part with it to free up the cash.

Warp
December 29, 2012, 06:56 PM
I predict within a year, it will be a buyer's market for pre-owned, rarely fired if ever fired AR rifles. Right now there are hoards of people buying one even though they didn't really want it for fear that they may not be able to in the future. Ban or not, a lot of those people will likely decide they really didn't want the gun to begin with and want to part with it to free up the cash.

It's a decent theory, but it has kinda been proven wrong in the recent past. People said the same thing about 2008 election panic buys, and it never really happened


People will generally hold onto them. If it was their first/only, they are still going to want it 'just in case'.

If they are an enthusiast they will want it because they like it and use or will use it.

Nobody wants to sell at a loss

d-dogg
December 29, 2012, 06:56 PM
I've bought a couple of guns recently - not the AR type. I was surprised that the Mossberg I just bought cost about $75 more than I expected it would. To sanity check, I priced a Taurus .454 Casull. I paid $650 for mine about 15 years ago and it goes for about $1,000 now. I'd call that inflation rather than hysteria.

ARs? Well supply and demand rule supreme. If an extra 10,000 people or however many decided they needed one in the last month, surely retailers will jack their prices up.

ColtPythonElite
December 29, 2012, 06:57 PM
It's a decent theory, but it has kinda been proven wrong in the recent past. People said the same thing about 2008 election panic buys, and it never really happened


People will generally hold onto them. If it was their first/only, they are still going to want it 'just in case'.

If they are an enthusiast they will want it because they like it and use or will use it.

Nobody wants to sell at a loss
I saw lots of AR's on the market after the 2008 election. Asking price was one thing. Selling price was another.

I agree an enthusiast will be into the equipment usually no matter the cost. The thing is I don't think alot of the recent buyers are enthusiasts. I think they are bandwagon riders.

huntsman
December 29, 2012, 07:40 PM
I'm still waiting for 03 prices again

Warp
December 29, 2012, 07:43 PM
I'm still waiting for 03 prices again

During the assault weapons ban?

22-rimfire
December 29, 2012, 08:07 PM
Prices will drop if the proposed AWB is defeated.

Hacker15E
December 29, 2012, 08:24 PM
I'm still waiting to see the "good deals" from the 2008 buying frenzy.

Most of what I've seen is just people with sale prices that reflect what they have in the weapon, and nobody buying them.

Maybe right now they're able to recoup the cost in the current seller's market.

ronnyreagan
December 29, 2012, 08:26 PM
It took awhile for prices to drop after Obama was first elected but they did. PSA sold stripped lowers for less than $60 including shipping at the beginning of this year! If the new AWB fails as I expect it will, prices will drop again. Maybe not quite to the same levels but close enough.

HDCamel
December 29, 2012, 08:30 PM
I would argue that the panic from 2008 never really went away, it stayed about the same until this AWB was proposed.

Now we have double panic.

CZguy
December 29, 2012, 11:37 PM
I would argue that the panic from 2008 never really went away, it stayed about the same until this AWB was proposed.

Now we have double panic.
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Warp
December 29, 2012, 11:42 PM
I think that, that's true.

I disagree.

Two months ago a reputable online retailer had brand new magpul 30 round PMAGs for $10.42 each, shipped. For DAYS. Without running out. Everybody else had them for $14.x or $12.x, shipped.

ARs were available anywhere and everywhere, for as low as ~$600 for a S&W Sport.

Even a week AFTER this presidential election, my LGS looked like this:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/austin3161324/Firearms/20121116_123546_zpsaae98f17.jpg



No way all of that qualifies as panic.

Zardaia
December 29, 2012, 11:47 PM
I'm personally not to worried about the gun price since I bought early, but I'd love to see ammo come back down. Same stuff that was .30/rnd when i bought first Ar is now almost a buck. I think the gun price'll go back down before ammo drops much (assuming no awb).

Kevin Rohrer
December 30, 2012, 12:47 AM
Prior to this nonsense, you could find ARs on every gunstore shelf. If they have all been sold, I would love to know how large a number that is.

RockyMtnTactical
December 30, 2012, 01:44 AM
yes, of course, in a few months, assuming nothing passes. In the mean time, spend your ammo money (or some of it anyway) on the NRA and lets get beat this thing.

RockyMtnTactical
December 30, 2012, 01:46 AM
During the assault weapons ban?

I could buy 500 rounds of .223 for $80 back then.

Warp
December 30, 2012, 01:53 AM
I could buy 500 rounds of .223 for $80 back then.

I guess when looking back at the 'good old days' it's a matter of 'picking your poison' for the ideal point in time.

I think I'd go with 2005-2006

But my perspective is warped...or at least limited...as I didn't get my first gun until 2005

mljdeckard
December 30, 2012, 02:34 AM
The panic will die down. Doesn't mean that dealers won't keep a convenience fee. Realize also, prices were WAY low before the election.

cdb1
December 30, 2012, 02:44 AM
I just wish I could find a Kel-Tec PMR-30 for even MSRP.

Dreamliner787
December 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
Prices never roll back not that the true agenda of those who want to ban guns are clearly on the table. I expect the "panic buy" situation will have a run for a long time which will be a pitty.

huntsman
December 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
During the assault weapons ban?
yeah for handguns

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