[blarby]

Hopefully simple......

Speer says use a small magnum primer for h110.

Hornady says use a winchester small rifle for h110.

I'd prefer not to use winchester anything....little sensitive for my tastes. So, CCI small rifle, or small rifle magnum ?

Which is correct ?



( my wife decided to pick up an m1 carbine whilst taking possession of her VEPR at the LGS today.... this has been a GREAT year for guns in my home ! )

[ArchAngelCD]

I would and do use CCI or Winchester SR primers, no need for a magnum rifle primer. Standard rifle primers are usually just as hot as magnum pistol primers. (unless that's all you have of course)

I have not found Winchester primers to be sensitive. Federal yes but not Win.

[gamestalker]

I loaded for the M1 a good while back, but I did and I used CCI-550's with h110. Everything worked just great so I guess I would go with Speer's suggestion. And in this respet, when ever possible I rely on Speer because their information has never gotten me in trouble.

Wish I had never let that firearm go too!
GS

[blarby]

Great- two people I know and trust.........radically different opinions ! :(


Well, I just got a case of CCI small rifle- so I guess that'll be the first try.... hard to see unburned powder when the dang gun flings the cases away !

[zxcvbob]

I'd prefer not to use winchester anything....little sensitive for my tastes. So, CCI small rifle, or small rifle magnum ?


It doesn't matter. Use whichever you have and work the load up with that. If you are loading for a M1 Carbine, consider using CCI #41's (small rifle military primers) I load 'em for a Ruger revolver and don't own a carbine, and I usually use Federal 205's.

[rcmodel]

Today, I would use whatever SR primer I could still find.

For the last 50 years I used CCI standard SR & 2400 for .30 Carbine.

If for some strange reason I changed to H-110 all of a sudden?
Probably still use CCI SR, cause thats what I got, unless I could find some CCI SRM somewhere where I got the H-110.

Always been a believer in Mag primers for H-110/W296 ball powder for some reason.

But I also have never used much of it for anything, so what do I know?

rc

[GaryL]

When you consider the powders lit off by small rifle primers doing standard duty in the typical small rifle application, lighting up H110 should be one of the easier jobs they will ever have to do.
:)

[blarby]

All points duly noted.

You know plenty, RC

[Kevin Rohrer]

Try both and see what works best.

I am just starting out loading for the Carbine (I got a CMP Inland last week) and will be using H110. Depending on the manual, it says either use SR or SRM primers. I have both and will try both.

Another Carbine owner says that to duplicate the military load, the muzzle velocity needs to be around 1950fps. The Hodgdon manual says thirteen grains of H110 will do that with a SR primer.

[Hondo 60]

Both are correct!

If you use the Hornady manual for your source then use a small rifle primer.
If you use the Speer data then use a small magnum primer.

Don't intermix data or you'll run into trouble.

[USSR]

The solution is simple: don't use H110/W297. I refuse to use this powder simply because it is so inflexible. I shoot a lot of cast bullets in my Inland, and for that I use 2400 powder. When I shoot jacketed bullets, IMR4227 gets the nod. In both cases I use whatever small rifle primer I have without problems.

Don

[jcwit]

The solution is simple: don't use H110/W297. I refuse to use this powder simply because it is so inflexible. I shoot a lot of cast bullets in my Inland, and for that I use 2400 powder. When I shoot jacketed bullets, IMR4227 gets the nod. In both cases I use whatever small rifle primer I have without problems.

Don


Yup! In my case I use 4227 with cast bullets 12 grains of powder.

[mljdeckard]

I've used both, I couldn't tell the difference.

[greyling22]

I've used cci's SR with h110 with decent results in my m1 carbine. Pretty much nothing to report really. every round went bang. never had an accidental discharge.

Just ran out of 110 so I'm about to switch over to some old 2400 I have laying around.