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JEB
December 30, 2012, 01:54 AM
a friend of mine has decided that he wants a new rifle for deer hunting and general shooting enjoyment and has enlisted me to help him choose one. he currently owns a mini-30 but is wanting to step up to something in the same power class as my 30-06 and my BIL's 7mm rem mag. this would be a pretty easy decision, but he really wants "something that no body else has." i think he is leaning towards a bolt action. price range is up to about $1,500.

he has said he would like to get a .338 lapua, which i dont really care what he buys, but tried to tell him that ammo is gonna be real expensive and whatever he buys he is gonna have to carry it through the woods. i think he feels less strongly about it now lol.

something unusual that is good out to 4-500 yards and suitable for deer? lets hear what ya got!

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FIVETWOSEVEN
December 30, 2012, 04:10 AM
The Swiss K31 might be something to consider.

7.62x51NATO
December 30, 2012, 04:16 AM
+1 on the K31. I own one and it is a VERY accurate rifle, and has similar power to a .308. The only problem he may encounter is finding ammunition.

gazpacho
December 30, 2012, 04:28 AM
Browning Highwall in 45-70

I think 500 yards with 338 Lapua is still considered CQB distance. (Joking!)

HOOfan_1
December 30, 2012, 04:34 AM
.270 WSM, 7mm WSM, .300 H&H Magnum, .280 Ackley Improved

BemidjiDweller
December 30, 2012, 04:36 AM
WWII Type 99 Arisaka 7.7x58mm Jap.

juk
December 30, 2012, 04:51 AM
FNAR or maybe even one of FN's bolt guns. FNAR gets the nod for the "out of the ordinary".

Isaac-1
December 30, 2012, 05:08 AM
How about .35 Whelen, it is getting a bit easier to find as it meets the minimum 35 Caliber size for primitive hunting calibers in more and more states. (many seem to be switching from 38 to 35 caliber minimum for primitive deer hunting season)

JEB
December 30, 2012, 01:43 PM
The Swiss K31 might be something to consider.

an excellent choice for sure, and one that i have been wanting for some time now. only problem is i have never actually seen one in person around here. would have to order on line and i know my friend will want to actually hold the thing before he drops any money on it.

I think 500 yards with 338 Lapua is still considered CQB distance. (Joking!)

lol kinda my thoughts as well!

good suggestions all! keep em coming!

nathan
December 30, 2012, 01:45 PM
7.5 Swiss is widely available although it s mostly internet dealers. AIMsurplus and SPortsmansguide has them in stock.

mberoose
December 30, 2012, 02:35 PM
It's a bit less oomph than the .30-06, but in that situation I'd be very happy with a VEPR in 7.62x54R. Plus the ammo is fairly cheap, so that's a plus.

redneck2
December 30, 2012, 09:39 PM
I have a friend that has a NIB Styer in 6.5x55 that he wants to move. It's got a barrel that looks like twisted wrought iron on the outside. Dunno how to explain it better than that. Spiral flutes I guess.

Should be a quality rifle. I really considered buying it just because it looks really cool, it's in a great caliber, and it's something almost nobody else has. Then I stumbled on a mint Savage 99 in .300 Savage at a really good price. Anyway, PM if you're interested.

ball3006
December 30, 2012, 10:35 PM
MAS36? They sure are different, but accurate. Getting a bit pricy though. Privi makes ammo for them. Privi also makes ammo for a K31 too...chris3

Flatbush Harry
December 30, 2012, 11:00 PM
A CZ 550FS in either 6.5x55 or 9.3x62 would be unusual and a very nice rifle with a Mauser-type action. The 6.5x55 is widely used in Europe, has inexpensive, high quality hunting ammunition available in the US from Prvi Partizan. The 9.3x62 is a step below the .375 H&H Magnum, a step above the .35 Whelen and is definitely like a .30-06 (7.62x63) on steroids. One of these may well be my next rifle.

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-fs/

FH

Jenrick
December 30, 2012, 11:07 PM
Some manner of Enfield, ammo is available and reasonable, and they are wonderful shooters. Or if you want something that I can pretty much guarantee no one else out looking for deer will have, how about a Martini-Enfield (still .303 British) or a Martini-Henry? Great shooters, very neat rifles, though a MH is going to be expensive to shoot if he doesn't reload.

-Jenrick

JEB
December 31, 2012, 02:14 AM
my friend stopped by for a while tonight and we looked up all the guns in this thread and looked at a few suggestions of my own. he did like the k31, surprising since mil-surps are not really his thing. we eventually came across a remington 700 in an AI stock and his eyes got a bit wider. looks like we might be trying to build up a rem700 with his choice of parts over the next couple of months.

out of curiosity, how difficult is it to change a barrel on a rem700? is this something that can be done at home, or is it a job better left to a competent gunsmith?

mljdeckard
December 31, 2012, 02:32 AM
I'm not sure I understand his way of thinking. "I know there are cartridges and guns everyone uses because they have been proven over and over again, but I want to find something obscure, because I really like that feeling when I go to my local gun store and look for the ammo and they have never heard of it. I also love taking a gun to a smith and asking him how many times he has worked on this rifle, and he tells me he had to go online to find out what the heck it was."

mnrivrat
December 31, 2012, 05:27 AM
out of curiosity, how difficult is it to change a barrel on a rem700? is this something that can be done at home, or is it a job better left to a competent gunsmith?

It is a job for a gunsmith. Perhaps just buying the 700 with the barrel and caliber choice would be a better idea? Or what non standard caliber was he thinking ?

urbaneruralite
December 31, 2012, 07:50 AM
The Mausers and Enfield suggestions are good directions. The K-Var web site would be a good place to check.

jmr40
December 31, 2012, 08:22 AM
A 280 would be my first choice if I wanted something a little different from the crowd and in the same power levels as a 30-06 or 7 mag.

With a $1,500 budget I'd either buy this.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/model-84l/classic-select-grade


Or I'd have a custom built.

The Kimber is in 280 AI. With proper handloads in the AI version it is right on the heels of the 7 mag in performance levels.

jehu
December 31, 2012, 08:32 AM
Sako Grey Wolf 7mm Rem. Mag with that budget.

dirtyjim
December 31, 2012, 08:54 AM
Just find an old Remington 721 in 300h&h.
Thats just about the only remington i would even consider owning

Fremmer
December 31, 2012, 09:53 AM
Browning bar in whatever caliber he prefers. Gas operated classic rifle!

JEB
December 31, 2012, 01:21 PM
It is a job for a gunsmith. Perhaps just buying the 700 with the barrel and caliber choice would be a better idea? Or what non standard caliber was he thinking ?

thats what i figured. he wasnt particularly looking for an obscure caliber per se, we were just kicking around the idea of picking up a well used 700 or just the action and adding a mid weight or bull barrel of his choice. trying to find one with a barrel and caliber he likes to begin with does sound like a better idea though.

Browning bar in whatever caliber he prefers. Gas operated classic rifle!

thanks! i had compleatly forgotten about the BAR. i'll mention it to him and see what he thinks.

d2wing
December 31, 2012, 01:51 PM
Tikka in 300 Win mag or 300 H&H, or a Winchester model 70 in 300 H&H.
My buddy has a Pre 64 model. It is a thing of beauty.
I am a fan of a nice 700 though.

cluck
December 31, 2012, 02:06 PM
my Win 70 was built in 1949. It will knock down any game in North America.

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