Marlin 60 and the upcoming AWB?


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texgunner
December 31, 2012, 04:58 AM
I just read a provision in Feinstein's new AWB that would ban the sale, manufacture, importation and transfer of:

"Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can except more than 10 rounds;"

If I'm reading that correctly my Marlin 60 with it's 14 round fixed tube magazine would be an NFA Class III firearm. Seriously?!

God, I really hope the good Senator's AWB bill fails. :cuss::

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texgunner
December 31, 2012, 05:03 AM
Sorry gents, that should be Marlin in the title. I'm not very good at typing on a smart phone. :o

Texan Scott
December 31, 2012, 05:06 AM
"Upcoming"? It's not "upcoming"... it's being proposed, but it's not gonna happen.
Write your Congresscritters, help the NRA fund, and quit worrying like it's inevitable.

Yo Mama
December 31, 2012, 11:02 AM
The Marlin 60 is a perfect example of why the bill stands the biggest chance of defeat in committee. IMO, as a few have discussed, if the bill really only targeted ak and ar type firearms, it probably would have passed. They went for broke, and it's not going to settle well when everyone's 10/22 is targeted.

Hillbillyz
December 31, 2012, 11:08 AM
I think I heard/read that tubular magazines were not included in the madness that is that proposal.

CoRoMo
December 31, 2012, 11:17 AM
Here's the only expounded detail of the Feinstein bill that I've seen:
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2012/feinstein-goes-for-broke-with-new-gun-ban-bill.aspx

Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:

Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.

texgunner
December 31, 2012, 04:58 PM
Here's the only expounded detail of the Feinstein bill that I've seen:
Quote:
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/fe...-ban-bill.aspx

Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:
Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.
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Well that's good. The website I was reading didn't include that last part.

45_auto
December 31, 2012, 05:25 PM
Well that's good.

Yeah, everything will be fine since it's not going to affect your gun .....

berettaprofessor
December 31, 2012, 06:12 PM
Yeah, everything will be fine since it's not going to affect your gun .....

That was dripping with sarcasm...in case anyone isn't sure. Nice point, 45_auto!

ApacheCoTodd
December 31, 2012, 06:37 PM
I think I heard/read that tubular magazines were not included in the madness that is that proposal.
If it happens as an overlay to California's type of ban - I wouldn't count on the above given the effect of the Cal AWB on the Henry holding more than 10 in the tube.

phil dirt
December 31, 2012, 07:47 PM
Pardon my stupidity, but how should one define "fixed magazine"?

ApacheCoTodd
December 31, 2012, 07:54 PM
Magazine: An ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a repeating firearm.

Fixed: Neither removable nor detachable without tools.

statelineblues
December 31, 2012, 07:59 PM
Posted by texgunner:
If I'm reading that correctly my Marlin 60 with it's 14 round fixed tube magazine would be an NFA Class III firearm. Seriously?!

It already is in New Jersey - the original Marlin Model 60 had a 17 round fixed tube magazine. A court challenge went all the way up to the NJ Supreme Court and it was found to fall under the NJ AWB, so all older Model 60's are banned.

"When dealing with guns, the citizen acts at his own peril," wrote the NJ Supreme Court when it upheld the conviction of the owner of a Marlin Model 60 .22 rifle as an assault firearm (State v. Pelleteri 1996). Thanks to NJgunforum.com.

ball3006
December 31, 2012, 09:56 PM
had 17 shot tube mags. Some of the early tube mag rifles will shoot 22 short so you can cram 20 or so rounds in them. How long does it take to empty a tube mag 22 rifle? Not long and no recoil to condend with....chris3

texgunner
January 1, 2013, 04:21 AM
Yeah, everything will be fine since it's not going to affect your gun .....
I also have two ARs and three pistols with mags that hold more than 10 rounds. I was going through my collection and was curious about my M60 after reading what I saw. I have 20+ mags for those ARs and pistols so I do have a lot to lose. Your sarcasm really is not warranted.

Deer_Freak
January 1, 2013, 05:02 AM
There are provisions in Fienstein's bill for 22 rifles with a tubular magazine. Well, it's not a bill just yet. It is the ramblings of a paranoid lunatic who managed to get a carry permit despite her illness.

ApacheCoTodd
January 1, 2013, 01:03 PM
Of course she'd go that way as her CalAWB exempts rimfire tube feeds as well. This is part of their "See, we're being reasonable..." tactic.

MAKster
January 1, 2013, 05:33 PM
California's AWB requires ARs to have a fixed magazine but it's a stupid requirement since the "tool" used to detach the magazine (bullet button) is as simple as the tip of a .223 cartridge or a pen.

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