[SSN Vet]

this looks pretty interesting...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=176944&d=1356986634

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[capreppy]

Very interesting

[tightgroup tiger]

Wounder what holds the case from spinning.

[J_McLeod]

Is it crank powered? Interesting. It looks like a good low cost option for those wanting something faster. I don't think I'll get it though, still going to put a Dillon 1200 on my LNL eventually.

[quaid]

Lee's catalog has some prices. I'm not sure how it works based on all the parts listed. Trimmer chamfer deluxe option $20, listed die bodies $11 or $15 (why two options?) and unlisted custom dies $25. In the same section the traditional case length gauge and shell holders are listed. Do you still need those, they're still $5'ish. It also talked about some chip catcher. Looks interesting. Need more details.

http://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/2013LeeCatalog_web.pdf

[GLOOB]

Wounder what holds the case from spinning.
Being jammed all the way into the die?

I'm not thrilled with the hand cranking. This sort of thing really needs to be motorized.

[joecil]

Based on a video I saw a while back before it was added to the 2013 catalog is uses a standard shell holder as it holds the shell in place while pressure is on it. I will order one the first day they are available in 45-70. I've been waiting for these since I saw the video about a year ago. Here is the video I saw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzNTuQuebvs

[Blackrock]

Looks interesting since I load a lot of .223 and 22-250 but they have no application for my 6mm rem.

[flashhole]

Will someone please post when they find out for sure you can order them? I would buy it today if I could. Great idea, great design and I really like the fact it is not motorized, more control. I'll wager you can develop a great "feel" when the trim is complete using this tool. It will make a great compliment to my Classic Press.

[thump_rrr]

It looks like a good low cost, low volume tool.
I'll keep my L.E. Wilson/Sinclair trimmer for my precision work and my Dillon 1200 for high volume work.
Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Lee tools but I'd rather spend a little more for top quality.

[joecil]

I get a news letter from FS Reloading who will probably have them ASAP which will tell me they are available. Supposed to Spring of 2013 though.

[jaguarxk120]

This system is not "new", if you look back about 50 years at the RCBS catalogs they made a trimmer that was press mounted. Lee doesn't make new stuff the just take someone else's ideas and use them.

[flashhole]

I'm throwing the BS flag on that comment. Lee has done a lot of innovative stuff that has been copied by others. Patents prevent infringement of ideas. The idea of a press mounted trimmer may not be new but it's highly unlikely the Lee design is a direct copy of anything. 3 minutes in the penalty box for jaguar.

[Hit_Factor]

I'm not thrilled with the hand cranking. This sort of thing really needs to be motorized.

As mentioned a few post earlier, the Dillon 1200 is powered and would work with any press accepting standard dies.

[Duckdog]

I agree. Lee has come up with some brilliant things, and I doubt that he's stealing ideas. I'd believe it was the other way around I'd love to see more of that bullet puller in the youtube clip. Now that really looks like a cool item

[joecil]

I agree. Lee has come up with some brilliant things, and I doubt that he's stealing ideas. I'd believe it was the other way around I'd love to see more of that bullet puller in the youtube clip. Now that really looks like a cool item

I agree that is also pretty nice. I have the RCBS press mount bullet puller and found it useless for me as I use cast bullets which it doesn't work with at all. It is designed for jacketed bullets only and I'm afraid that is what the Lee will do also.

[RustyFN]

I will be giving this a try for sure. I like the fact that it trims, chamfers and deburs all at the same time. I am using the Lee trimmer now for 223 and it works fine but my left thumb and finger get sore after 1,000 from tightening and loosening the lockstud. I'm sure this new trimmer wouldn't be too hard to add a motor to.

[Duckdog]

I mostly use cast bullets, too, so it probably will not work for me. I went to using the 3 jaw chuck from Lee and that thing really works nice. No more sore fingers!

[TooManyToys]

PLUS 1 flashhole!
Make it 6 minutes in the penalty box for the BS comment about Mr. Richard Lee and his innovative products.!

You ask why would someone post such a comment?
....I understand long term exposure to smoke from Lucas Electric's can cause impaired judgment, often times leading to the posting of uninformed, ridiculous and mean spirited comments on websites.

[jaguarxk120]

If you will look back into your older catalogs you can find the trimmer by RCBS listed as a Mill Type case trimmer. It is in the 1962 RCBS catalog on page 24.

Also RCBS was not the only one offering that type of trimmer, Pacific offered a trimmer of the same type.
It can be found on page 77 of the first edition of the Handloader's Digest.

Much of the NEW innovation by loading tool makers has already been tried or done by others.

[3006mv]

Forster had a bullet pulling tool using a collet type "die" but they stopped making them.

But I still think Lee is pretty innovative and a good company, there is a Chinese co. that is copying Lee presses etc. called Smartreloader

[GLOOB]

my left thumb and finger get sore after 1,000 from tightening and loosening the lockstud.
Zip Trim chuck and drill spindle adapter. = $20.00. Buy once, use for all calibers, throw all your lockstuds away.
http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/gloob27x/?action=view&current=LeeZipTrim.mp4

[rsrocket1]

Gloob, that looks great. Thanks for showing the vid.

I got the Lee debur/chamfer tool as part of a deal and thought that it was one of the few Lee tools that was worthless and not effective. That was, until I mounted the case trim tool in a drill and tried using the tool with a high speed rotating case rather than by simply twisting by hand. At high speed, the debur/chamfer tool worked great.

If RCBS made a tool like this a half century ago and it was effective and affordable, I would think it would still be on the market.

Now if only Lee would bring back the old hand priming tool designed with a stronger handle.

[GLOOB]

Ha. Conversely, I at first thought that the Wilson/RCBS outside chamfer tools were worthless. Until I turned them very, very slowly. Even by hand, you can easily exceed the max rpm with those pronged outside chamfer tools to where the cutters chatter, badly.

[jaguarxk120]

3006mv go to www.sinclairintl.com the part number is 749-002-543ws $15.99
the Forster bullet puller.

[Centurian22]

Rsrocket1,

Have you looked into the Lee "Ergo Prime"? I just bought one and couldn't be happier. Primer size changes are as easy as swapping shell holders (assembly lifts out / slides in and shell holder retains it in place). It's 'backwards' in that the handle is braced by your thumb and you squeeze/seat with your fingers, but very comfortable, easy and efficient. I've heard the plastic covers have been strengthened as well.

[rsrocket1]

Yes, I've seen it and may go out and buy one after "wasting" money on their new primer. That Rube Goldberg elevator system may get the primer away from the others and prevent a chain reaction, but it results in a lot of flipped and jammed primers and a very unpleasant priming experience. The old system worked fine.

Gloob, oddly enough, I was on the other side of the spectrum. I was hand turning the trimming tool and used the Hornady debur tool (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/742818/hornady-chamfer-and-deburring-tool-17-to-45-caliber?cm_vc=subv1143728) to slowly clean up the case mouth and it was ideal for that purpose. You could also "cheat" and use it to take off the crimp from a primer pocket if you didn't want to mount the RCBS primer pocket swager for just one case every now and then.

[3006mv]

jaguar that is different than the one forster used to make, the lee one in the video is probably very similar to the forster of days gone by b/c you just push the ram up and bullet gets captured (and pushed up into the plastic reservoir like in their sizing system) and then you pull the case down and away
w/o tightening the collet from above w/ a handle

[jaguarxk120]

Found it --- 4th edition Handloaders Digest listed as a Bonanza bullet puller.

The 1995 14th edition lists the same bullet puller as a Forster Super Fast Puller.

I have a Redco bullet puller that works similar to the Bonanza/Forster puller but it will destroy the bullet. I picked it up at a estate sale, won't use it as I can't see pulling a bullet and having to throw it away.