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Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 04:36 PM
Hi all any1 got the answer (I know its a personal preference but should be a good conversation)

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Jim, West PA
December 31, 2012, 05:13 PM
Fer me Jason, it's which ever one i'm in the process o' buyin.:D
Yep, this 'hobby' is that addictin' ;)
WELCOME to the forum.

BHP FAN
December 31, 2012, 05:16 PM
I missed getting a Tranter by fifty bucks [they wanted $100.00, and I only had fifty] in Plymouth England in an antique store thirty years ago. My choice is always Remington, of the replicas.

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:19 PM
I own an Walker and a 44 abd 36 Remington there all good guns each 1 has good and bad points

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:24 PM
You missed out on the tranter worth a lot now

joecil
December 31, 2012, 05:30 PM
My favorite has been the 1873 colt SAA followed by the S&W Schofield and last the Remington 1875 single action. I own several of each all in 45 Colt all made originally by Uberti. All are cartridge type loads and never cared for the cap an ball models. As for rifles the 1873 Winchester or the Sharps 45-70 though own neither but would also buy those made by Uberti if I could afford them instead us a Rossi 92 for black powder also in 45 colt.

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:31 PM
Any 1 own or shot any obscure black powder pistols Repos or original s?

BHP FAN
December 31, 2012, 05:32 PM
I know, I missed out on that Tranter. I saw one at the Maritime Museum down in San Francisco when I was a kid, and one in a little museum of Civil War stuff in Georgia, back when I was in the Navy down in Mayport Florida...neat design.

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:36 PM
I would only buy an original colt muzzle loader if I could get it cheep I wish , there in thd 1000 pound pride range in theUK

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:38 PM
I lofe the look of the Roger snd Spence muzzle loader pistol

Jasonmackuk
December 31, 2012, 05:41 PM
I love the look of the Roger and Spencer muzzle loader pistol

Malachi Leviticus Blue
December 31, 2012, 06:25 PM
Of the replica's I own, the Rogers & Spencer are probably my favorites, but I love them all.

BHP FAN
December 31, 2012, 08:18 PM
My favorites are Remington's with a close runner up being the Spiller and Burr...

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/hut-man/th_gunbox2.jpg (http://s989.beta.photobucket.com/user/hut-man/media/gunbox2.jpg.html)

RON in PA
January 1, 2013, 05:19 AM
Of the repos, the Rogers and Spencer is the best. The Ruger Old Army is the best overall.

Jasonmackuk
January 1, 2013, 05:39 AM
I think the non period guns go in a different thread , we carnt compare a moden design to a 160 plus yearold design ie Ruger and the colt single action cartridge to muzzle loader convertion are out of the tread

Jasonmackuk
January 1, 2013, 05:49 AM
My 1st muzzle loader was a Uberti Walker its a piece of art , my 2nd was a 36 Euro Arms Remington nice cheep gun by stiff hammer spring , my 3rd was a Uberti 44 Remington it my fave at the moment, it fits my hand and balances right but want a 4th now maybe a 31 cal

mykeal
January 1, 2013, 07:23 AM
Ruger Old Army, No. 1. Hands down.
Rogers & Spencer, No. 2. Close second place.
Everything else....
Last place: Starr SA.

Foto Joe
January 1, 2013, 08:57 AM
Number "1" sexiest gun ever made?? Why the 1860 Army Officers Model of course!!

Favorite gun to actually shoot? 1851 "Fake" Navy (the so-called Confederate model).

pohill
January 1, 2013, 10:24 AM
Most oddball (but fastest) shooter - lever action Savage & North .36.
Favorite shooter (now at least) - Colt 1851 .36.
Smoothest, easiest shooter - Whitney .36.
Best made BP revolver - Ruger Old Army.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/IMG_0848.jpg

loose noose
January 1, 2013, 11:51 AM
Give me my '58 Remingtons in .44, followed closely by Spiller and Burr in .36, as far as BP revolvers go, However my Colt 2nd Generation .45 Long Colts shoot both BP and Smokeless, so I don't believe you can count those.

Fingers McGee
January 1, 2013, 07:37 PM
Most oddball (but fastest) shooter - lever action Savage & North .36.
Favorite shooter (now at least) - Colt 1851 .36.
Smoothest, easiest shooter - Whitney .36.
Best made BP revolver - Ruger Old Army.


Isnt that a Spiller & Burr on the bottom?

pohill
January 1, 2013, 08:56 PM
It's a Whitney. The iron frame looks brass in some pics.
Here's a better pic (with a Spiller & Burr repro)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/Picture012.jpg

raa-7
January 1, 2013, 09:02 PM
To me they're all the best really,but I just can,t get em all :p The best to me right now is my Remy 1858 NA.

arcticap
January 2, 2013, 06:35 AM
Folks may have their favorite[s] but I can't say that any one is absolutely the best since they all have their good and bad points.
If anyone hasn't voted, these polls are still open:

1. What's Your Favorite C&B Revolver Pattern?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=512571

2. What's Your Favorite Colt C&B?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=633966

3. Multiple Voting - Which Of These C&B Models Do You Currently Own?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=633822

4. What's Your Favorite Powder?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=584783

5. How often should nipples be removed for cleaning?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=576729

Fingers McGee
January 2, 2013, 07:43 PM
It's a Whitney. The iron frame looks brass in some pics.
Here's a better pic (with a Spiller & Burr repro)


Much better picture. It shows the plum color of the iron better than the other picture does. The first picture looked alot like dark mustard patinated brass

mgmorden
January 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
I absolutely love my Pietta Remington 1858 clone. Great feel and accuracy. Only thing I'd change is that if i had it to do over again I'd get the 5.5" barrel instead of 8". The gun is just a bit front heavy.

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Busyhands94
January 2, 2013, 08:58 PM
I don't care what anybody says, the Remington New Model Army in .44 is the sexiest cap n' ball revolver in my opinion. It's a good looking sixgun, and it never failed me. Two misfires out of 1000 rounds is pretty damn good, and those two were from a tin of #11 Remington caps. My pistol likes #10 Remington caps.

I am always having a constant love affair with my Remington. Everytime I think about buying a Colt a Remington seems like a better idea. I will eventually get a cap n' ball Colt, after I get a few more Remingtons.

kBob
January 3, 2013, 07:14 AM
The best BP C&B revolver is the one that happens to be in my hand at any given moment.

As far as wishing for a new reproduction from the Italians, I would really like to see a reproduction Kerr to counter all the "confederate" brass frame colts and brass frame "Texas" (where did they get that?) Remmies.

I am picturing boxes with crossed Union Jack and and Confederate battle flag and banners proclaiming "London Armory Company Supplier to CSA" and "Kerr's Improved Revolver" Or maybe linking the revolver in a presentation box with a CSA or State of Choice belt buckle......

Of course given my inate cheapness there is no way I could justify paying full price for a new one myself......

-kBob

Dave Markowitz
January 5, 2013, 12:29 PM
IMO, the Rogers & Spencer was the ultimate 19th Century percussion revolver. It is less prone to cap jams than Remingtons or Colts, and fouls less than the Remingtons. The Ruger Old Army's loading lever is derived from the R&S, as is the anti-fouling ring on the cyclinder face.

Compared with the Colt, Remington, or Ruger, the R&S action is shorter. I.e., the hammer doesn't need to be pulled back as far to cock it. This leads to a shorter lock time which helps accuracy.

The only disadvantage that it has vs. the other percussion wheelguns is the lack of a way to safely carry it with all 6 chambers loaded. You need to carry it hammer down on an empty chamber, because there is no safety notch or pin between chambers.

Mine is a Euroarms in Long Gray.

http://flintlock.org/pics/var/resizes/Percussion-Revolvers/DSCN1446.jpg?m=1314052464

You can see the raised ring on the front of the cylinder in this pic. It keeps the cylinder base pin from getting fouled.

http://flintlock.org/pics/var/resizes/Percussion-Revolvers/cleanup%20%281024x765%29.jpg?m=1341954738

Since Euroarms was bought by Perdersoli early last year they stopped importing the Rogers & Spencers, but you can probably find one for sale if you look around.

Fingers McGee
January 5, 2013, 01:22 PM
Lessee, the R&S was made in 1865 at the end of the late unpleasantness and; other than very few, was never put into service. They were placed into storage & eventually sold to Bannerman's for $0.25 each, essentially as scrap, in 1900. The Rogers & Spencer was basically an improvement (copy) of the 1861 Whitney revolver.

There were around 5,000 R&S revolvers made and 30,000 Whtney's

My vote goes to the 1861 Whitney Navy.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Whitney0378802_zpseb00c2e7.jpg

Crossfire
January 5, 2013, 04:14 PM
The only black powder revolvers to own and shoot are the Colt reproductions (steel frame). Everything else is ugly.

Crossfire

Tommygunn
January 5, 2013, 06:50 PM
Fingers McGee, is that an original Whitney or a repro? It looks to be in really good condition. Nice gun!

Fingers McGee
January 5, 2013, 07:59 PM
Wish I could say it was an original ............................. But it's not :( .

Jaymo
January 5, 2013, 09:43 PM
What's the best:
Razor?
Harmonica?
Guitar?
Car?
Truck?
Caliber?
Watch?

Tough question to answer objectively. I like Remingtons, Colts, and Rugers.

Crawdad1
January 5, 2013, 11:20 PM
The Colt. Starting making history in 1836, same year as the Alamo and hasn't stopped since. Goggle 'History of the battles involving the Colt Paterson' and start reading!! ;)

I love my Remingtons and Rugers and everything in between, but history wise, my hat is off for the Colt!!

Mike OTDP
January 6, 2013, 12:28 AM
I'll put it this way...I worked arms inspection one day at the World Muzzle-Loading Championships last year. More than 90% of the revolvers were Remingtons.

Jasonmackuk
January 14, 2013, 06:29 PM
hi fellow shooter thanks for the posts keep them coming ,going for my 1st shoot of the year and sad to say only air rifle as got no powder ,caps,anything to shoot so sad my cry

CraigC
January 14, 2013, 07:40 PM
I like them all and think the Remington `58 is an especially handsome sixgun but prefer Colt's 1860 and 1851.

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