Ruger LCP 380 - the bad?
d-dogg
January 1, 2013, 08:37 AM
Looking to replace my self destructed 380 (see my Davis P380 thread), I've been searching for a 380 to replace it.
Quality for the price, I always find myself coming back to Rugers.
Other than the trigger pull, which seems to be a frequent complaint, are there any other things I may not like about the LCP?
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Johnny Lightning
January 1, 2013, 08:44 AM
The sights are not the best either but it is still a great pocket pistol. I carry one and trust it 100%. Check out the bodyguard also, it is a nice package at a good price.
FloriDave
January 1, 2013, 09:24 AM
I like the LCP. Carry it a lot more than I thought I would, and after a few hundred rounds I've had no failures of any kind.
I put a shotgun bead front sight on it and also a lasermax laser. Recluse holster most of the time.
http://www.daveharper.com/inetphotos/RugerLCPsight2.jpg
PabloJ
January 1, 2013, 09:35 AM
Looking to replace my self destructed 380 (see my Davis P380 thread), I've been searching for a 380 to replace it.
Quality for the price, I always find myself coming back to Rugers.
Other than the trigger pull, which seems to be a frequent complaint, are there any other things I may not like about the LCP?
The only two things I disliked about it is slide did not stay open after last shot and the slide
would rust easily particularly around the finger serrations. Thought I have seen them with chromed slide if so that is the one I would get. When shooting at 10 yards or less I found the sights to be perfectly adequate. It is difficult little pistol to shoot well with.
wally
January 1, 2013, 09:41 AM
My biggest complaint is several times the mag catch button has somehow pressed and released the mag while in my carry holster.
heeler
January 1, 2013, 09:57 AM
Mine has been 100% since the day I bought it.
It replaced a Diamondback that self destructed and was replaced by DB only to have the second one self destruct and was repaired and after that I bought the LCP and sold the DB.
I am sure you will love your LCP.
I like mine so much I actually bought a second one as a spare in case something ever happens to my current one such as theft,confiscation,etc.
kerreckt
January 1, 2013, 10:31 AM
Everyone, including Ruger, has been copying the Kel-tec products when it comes to these types of guns. Why not buy a Kel-tec? I have two a P3AT and a PF9 and they have been flawless. I have carried the P3AT for about 3 years. Shoot a magazine through it about bi-weekly. Never a single problem with any ammo including my handloads. Same with the PF9(vehicle gun). There is a reason everyone tries to copy these....they work.
momano
January 1, 2013, 10:40 AM
Mine has been totally reliable; not a single malfunction. At that price point, it's the best in class IMHO. I never could keep my P3AT running. A dab of orange paint on the front sight and a Hogue grip and you'll have a real shooter.
dwstone1227
January 1, 2013, 11:27 AM
I have a Ruger LCP with about 500 rounds through it. I did put a Crimson Trace on it and I really like the CT. I have two "complaints" about the LCP.
1. Trigger pull. I understand this is a safety issue so I can live with this
2. The slide does not lock back after the last round. This one bothers me. I realize I should "always" count my rounds however, in a high stress situation, I seriously doubt I could count each round.
If I had it do do over, I would do the Kahr.
heeler
January 1, 2013, 11:31 AM
kerreckt..The reason I chose the LCP over the P3AT is because the fit and finish was noticeably better and on the LCP you CAN lock the slide back which after owning the Diamondback I never want a semi auto that the slide cannot be locked back.
They may have copied some aspects of the P3AT but certainly not all.
Even my KelTec P32 slide can be locked back.
colorado_handgunner
January 1, 2013, 11:35 AM
My biggest complaint is several times the mag catch button has somehow pressed and released the mag while in my carry holster.
This was an issue for me too.
The sights are terrible. I could never use them.
The gun is so small it would shift in my hands after every shot making follow up shots impossible.
I could never keep more than 50 percent on paper at 5 yards. With all my other guns I can keep 100 percent in a 4" hole at 10 yards and 95 percent on paper at 24 yards.
Needless to say it got traded for a Kahr CW9 with none of these issues.
Also tried a Diamond Back, but it is so vulnerable to limp rising you have to keep it 100 percent straight (perpendicular to horizontal for the math folks) or you will experience all sorts of failures. Could not get a full mag out of it without a failure.
Might I suggest a Smith j-frame? Fits in the pocket almost as well as the lcp and has been totally reliable.
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3twelves
January 1, 2013, 12:29 PM
Hated mine sold it for a PF9.
Ammo just as expensive as 9mm
Was not 100% reliable
Paul7
January 1, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mine was completely unreliable, Ruger finally gave me a refund after it went back to them three times, and they were jerks about it. The scary part is the real problems didn't start until after 200 rounds. I now have a new Colt Mustang in .380 and really like it. The only .380 I've really enjoyed shooting.
3twelves
January 1, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mine was completely unreliable, Ruger finally gave me a refund after it went back to them three times, and they were jerks about it. The scary part is the real problems didn't start until after 200 rounds. I now have a new Colt Mustang in .380 and really like it. The only .380 I've really enjoyed shooting.
Same with mine it, was good up to 200 rounds then it started FTF every other shot. Polished the ramp with no help.
Dentite
January 1, 2013, 03:07 PM
What are you looking to do with it? Pocket carry? Back-up gun? If so then I think it's a good option. I've only put about 100 rounds through it so I can't say it's going to be 100% reliable forever but so far so good. I did depress the mag release with my hand while shooting once and the mag dropped out a 1/4" or so and the round didn't feed right. I haven't had that problem since it happened.
If you are looking for a shooter, then look for something bigger and with better sights. Beretta 84 or something similar.
Hope that helps.
Also tried a Diamond Back, but it is so vulnerable to limp rising you have to keep it 100 percent straight (perpendicular to horizontal for the math folks) or you will experience all sorts of failures. Could not get a full mag out of it without a failure.
Not sure if I'm a "math folk" but are you shooting the gun straight up in the air? ;)
colorado_handgunner
January 1, 2013, 03:10 PM
Not sure if I'm a "math folk" but are you shooting the gun straight up in the air? ;)
More accurate statement would have been a perpendicular bi-section of the horizontal by the slide. :P :)
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d-dogg
January 1, 2013, 03:13 PM
It would serve dual duty Dentite. Both as a pocket carry, and as a range gun because it is small enough for my kids' hands.
(a little bit of kick for a 12 year old, but she's gotta learn to handle that sometime)
dw2169
January 1, 2013, 03:23 PM
LCP had to much trigger pull. I think i am going to get a Taurus TCP 380. The slide locks back after the last round is fired and it has a much easier trigger pull. I am still trying to make up my mind.
FloriDave
January 1, 2013, 03:34 PM
Great pocket gun, can always CCW it and I love mine, but lowsy range gun for a 12 year old girl.
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2wheels
January 1, 2013, 05:59 PM
The good?
It's tiny, lightweight, and therefore easy to carry.
The bad?
It's tiny, lightweight, and therefore not easy to shoot. Not to mention the iffy trigger and the nonexistent sights.
My choice for a .380 pocket gun is the Sig P238, but it's much more expensive.
History.Doc
January 1, 2013, 06:32 PM
The bad is that shooting them seems like punishment so it isn't that fun to practice with it.
wrench
January 1, 2013, 06:32 PM
Mine has been a fabulous pocket pistol. Very reliable with both factory ammo and reloads.
It's not a target pistol, and it's not a range gun, especially (IMO) for a youngster.
Still, I don't think it's that bad to shoot, peppy, but not brutal.
History.Doc
January 1, 2013, 06:44 PM
The bad is that shooting them seems like punishment so it isn't that fun to practice with it.
Magichelmt
January 1, 2013, 06:46 PM
Mine has been great. I shoot the hell out of it. My buddy has the laser on his and it has held zero pretty well. I have a Recluse holster and have painted the sights on it. My uncle just bought a Taurus .380 and one thing I did like on it was the slide hold open on the last round. Both have the heavy trigger, but that is not a deal breaker. Good luck.
Yarddog
January 1, 2013, 07:03 PM
LCP Is NOT a range gun,,,It's a CC gun that is a last resort at 5 yrds you should be able to put all rounds on papper JMO ; ) PS you could shoot a mag or two once a week/month to keep in tune :D
Y/D
MikeJackmin
January 1, 2013, 07:26 PM
I filed down the plastic mag release button on my Kel-Tec, because it would sometimes get pressed when carried. After that it's been fine.
I'd suggest the same mod on the ruger.
These are not easy guns to shoot, but boy are they easy to carry. Lots of power for such a little gun.
sean326
January 1, 2013, 07:26 PM
My biggest complaint is several times the mag catch button has somehow pressed and released the mag while in my carry holster.
I've carried mine every day for a couple years, I also have a home shooting range so I make it a point to put a couple mags through it every week.
I carry mine just in my pocket and it kept releasing the mag. I called ruger and they said that they had gotten some complaints about it but made no modifications. They offered to send me annother mag release button. I questioned them why since they said they made no mods. The very nice customer service guy laughed and said because we find that we have to send them out after the people who call and complain grind them down and screw them up. I'm just saving you annother potential call. So they sent me a new mag button and spring. I pulled mine out and ground it down a little, reblued it and reinstalled it fine. it now takes a purposefull push like most of my guns to release, I don't carry a spare mag so that's not an issue for speed reloading and my mag hasn't dropped out since.
The front sight kinda sucks. I just painted it with some fluorescent, luminous gunsight paint.
dab102999
January 1, 2013, 07:41 PM
I bought one for a really good price. Wife and did not enjoy shooting it and as said sights suck. Put a $11 houge grip on it and painted sights and her and I always put 50 rounds or better thru it at least once a month when we go shooting. Look up laserlyte and for $85 you can put a nice, accurate, easy to use and fits in every holster. Trigger pull still Sucks but don't know if I would want a lighter trigger pull on a pocket gun.
Imdgatorh8r
January 1, 2013, 07:56 PM
Love my LCP.. I got it for summer time carry... my only complaint was that I had a couple of jams when tried steel jacket... Will not shoot steel jacket anymore..It likes brass best.. great cc pistol.. at 15 yards much more accurate than I ever imagined...Great close up pistol for the money,
kokapelli
January 1, 2013, 08:00 PM
The TCP would be a significant step up for a reasonable price.
Better trigger, better sights less felt recoil, locks back on last round and it comes with two magazines.
Reefinmike
January 1, 2013, 08:01 PM
I was trying to pick between the lcp, p3at and tcp 6 months ago and settled on the tcp. IMO, it has the best trigger of all, its the only one that locks back on the last shot and comes with a spare mag. Plus, its the heaviest of them all(still only 10 ounces) which helps a bit with recoil. certainly not a fun range gun but I put a few mags through each week to ensure its functioning properly. I have put nearly 1,000 reloads through it without a problem.
Okie45
January 1, 2013, 09:37 PM
The magazine will pop out of mine if I shoot the magazine with the finger extension on it. Shoots the flush fitting magazine just fine. Looks like the magazine latch is worn inside the gun. I'm thinking the extra pressure from my finger is causing it to pop out. Started to happen around the 200 round count. Looks like she'll have to go in for repair. Other than that problem, its accurate and easy to conceal.
weblance
January 1, 2013, 09:57 PM
I gave up on the LCP because it was unreliable. Even after an extensive Fluff & Buff, I would always have some kind of malfunction while shooting it at the range. I bought a SIg P238, and never looked back. You know that feeling after you sell a gun, and then wish you hadn't...? NOPE, I dont have that feeling for the LCP. The Sig has a stainless slide, stainless magazines, 7+1, real Tritium sights, and locks open on an empty magazine. Its a pleasure to shoot, soaks up the recoil so much better that the LCP. Its simply in another league altogether. I have a nephew who is Law Enforcement. All the officers in his department carry a Sig 238 as a backup. That was good enough for me. When I was deciding what to replace my LCP with, I read about all the comparable size, and cost guns. There were complaints about every one. The only complaint about the Sig, was the cost. Save up some money, buy the Sig.
Dentite
January 1, 2013, 11:19 PM
d-dogg:
LCP would be at about the bottom of a list of guns I would advise for a 12yo girl. Do you have a .22LR pistol? If not, look at picking one up. Perfect to learn the fundamentals without developing a flinch anticipating recoil. For centerfire handguns I would recommend a medium to large frame .38 special with at least a 4" barrel (low recoil) or a full size semi auto in 9mm (also low recoil).
LCP is not "fun" to shoot. You want something fun to shoot for your daughter so she will want to keep doing it!
Kramer Krazy
January 1, 2013, 11:28 PM
LCP is not "fun" to shoot. You want something fun to shoot for your daughter so she will want to keep doing it!
This is definitely true. I had difficulties shooting 50 rounds through mine the other weekend as it would twist in my hand and the trigger guard would smack the side of my trigger finger - beating the meat of the cuticle into the edge of the fingernail. I'm surprised it didn't draw blood. Then again, my hands are rather large and the grip of the pistol is really small and the trigger pull is too short for me, resulting in a lighter grip than I usually shoot with.
TurkeyOak
January 1, 2013, 11:36 PM
I don't mind the trigger pull. I look at it as a safety feature. It is reassuring to know I'm not going to fire it without really wanting too.
I painted the sights, yellow in front and white in rear, so sighting isnt an issue.
I really wished the slide stayed open on empty. I just switch after two "duds" so it doesnt slow me down much.
It isnt fun to shoot, being snappy. I consider it a 6 shot derringer. However, a .38 Spl is just as snappy, twice as big, and harder to reload, to the LCP works fine for me.
I often carry it in my shirt pocket.
herkyguy
January 2, 2013, 09:46 AM
dumped an LCP years ago. i liked the size for CCW, but also want any gun i own to be at least mildly fun to shoot, which the LCP was not. So i dumped it and years later picked up at Sig P238. It's a bit larger, but the sights are great and it is mild to shoot. pretty looking too. External safety though....so something to consider.
ceetee
January 2, 2013, 12:58 PM
Ours has been completely reliable from day one. We only have a few hundred rounds through it, though. It does have a pretty stiff trigger pull, and the sights are pretty hard to pick up in anything but the best light. Combine that with the stiff recoil you get with shooting even a powder-puff caliber out of such a small handgun and it's hard to shoot accurately. I wouldn't advise putting it in the hands of anyone under 16 unless you've given them a chance to bang away with some form of .22 first, so they know that not all guns kick like that.
That said, i won't be selling ours any time soon. I put a Crimsin Trace laser on it (which came with a nice pocket holster) and that modification alone chaanged its nature completely. It used to be quite a bear to shoot - only accurate at extremely close ranges. Once I had the laser sighted in, I was easily printing 3-4" groups at 25 yards. it's the pistol I carry when I can't (or don't choose to) carry anything bigger.
leadchucker
January 2, 2013, 01:12 PM
I do HATE that loooooong trigger pull. I would prefer a more single-action type trigger... and a safety. Aside from that, the LCP is the finest little pocket gun made.
Fiv3r
January 2, 2013, 05:22 PM
I love mine. Unlike so many who post on the internet, my daily commute is not rife with zombies, bears, or gangs of riffraff hopped up on PCP and Bath Salts. In short, even though I carry a larger pistol when I can, the LCP is ALWAYS on my person.
Over a few hundred rounds it has been 100% short of some light primer strikes on Tula ammo. Of course, the only handguns that I can get to run that stuff consistently are my Glocks. It fits in my back pocket in a custom holster I made for it that holds the spare mag as well. I can wear it with any dress attire I like. No dressing around the gun, just slip it in my pocket and go on with my day.
The kicker is that I actually shoot my LCP better than my LCR. The LCR is comfortable to shoot with a FANTASTIC trigger...but I get better groupings with the lil' LCP. Plus, I have 2 more rounds in the gun and it's faster to reload.
The trigger on the LCP is pretty crappy, but its what you have to live with if you want a safe pocket pistol with no external safety. The slide not locking back can be an issue too if you have any failures to fire. The light primer strikes I talked about sometimes happened on my last round. So always make sure you check and clear the gun after you drop the mag at the range.
The LCP is not a gun I would take into war. It's not a gun I would grab if I heard a bump in the night. However, it IS a gun I would be very thankful to have on my person if the SHTF and I found myself in the wrong place at the wrong time. "Beats a sharp stick" is a bit of a disservice to the .380 pocket pistol. It very MAY be your last ditch weapon, but as a last ditch I could think of MANY concealable weapons worse than 7 rounds of quality jhp .380.
lonewolf5347
January 2, 2013, 05:40 PM
I decided to buy the Ruger LCP about 9 months ago I think I made the right choice,I have ran all types of ammo threw it total now better then 500 rounds
I have shot PMC,Winchester,Magtech And Fiocchi the gun runs flawless no he-cups
I have not shot ammo like CorBon Remington
I carry the Fiocchi Dynamic 90 Gr HP as self defense ammo seem a little hotter then FMJ some reviews on this ammo is mixed but I think like any ammo a well place shot will stop any threat
txgunsuscg
January 2, 2013, 05:44 PM
Let's just say mine is up for sale elsewhere on this site...
I had multiple failures to feed and double feeds, and in general the gun was just too small for my big hands. I personally believe that most of my malfunctions were shooter induced with my thumbs causing issues with the slide cycling.
As for the trigger, its not great, but I've shot much worse. FWIW, I liked the LC9's trigger better. As far as accuracy, I found it to be a very accurate gun, especially for the size. At 3-5 yards, I could easily keep them within a 4 inch circle, and could keyhole them if I tried.
I carried it in a Fobus ankle holster, and I've literally worn it for 12+ hours without noticing.
Skribs
January 2, 2013, 05:57 PM
The sights are not too big of an issue, especially with some high-viz sight paint (I did red on the back, orange on the front).
My biggest complaints are basically the compromises. You know going in that it's a small, light pistol. The grip sucks, and it beats the smeg out of your hand when you're at the range. The sights aren't great. All of this serves to make something that will easily fit in your pocket.
I've had a few FTFs but overall it's good enough.
Rex B
January 2, 2013, 06:29 PM
I've been carrying a LCP for 2 years. Before that it was a P3AT, which I still have.
My habit when going to the range is to pull my pocket LCP and empty it, just as I would if I really needed it. Twice in the last year it has failed to fire that first round. Had to rack the slide. It was like I had not cycled the slide when I loaded it, yet a round was in the chamber.
Why do I still carry it? Because I believe a carry gun needs to be DA.
I have quite a few other small 380s - P238, Colts, Stars, llamas. I'll probably give one of them another try while I look for a revolver. A Taurus M85 ultralite in .327 would be about perfect.
heeler
January 2, 2013, 06:34 PM
Since I own two LCP's and my Brother owns one,all three flawless,I would really like to have an idea of the serial number ranges of the few LCP owners here who have said the ones they own have had issues with failure to feed etc.
I am not doubting these owners but practically everyone I know that owns one as well as internet forums has nothing but praise for how well they function.
I also pocket carry mine daily in a leather RKBA pocket holster and have never had the magazine disconnect.
Weird.
weblance
January 3, 2013, 12:00 AM
377-06xxx
weblance
January 3, 2013, 12:01 AM
Duplicate post. sorry
d-dogg
January 3, 2013, 06:02 AM
Just exactly how big a guy are you, txgunsuscg? Glove size please, if you know it. Curious how big is just too big for this gun. I haven't handled one yet.
heeler
January 3, 2013, 06:11 AM
Fwiw my reliable every day carry is serial 376-120xx.
My secondary and just as reliable LCP is 378-159xx.
First one was bought new on GB in August 2011 and the second, again on a GB auction,in July 2012.
Imho if your LCP is not 100% send it back to Prescott AZ. and get it working right.
d-dogg
January 3, 2013, 06:32 AM
I don't suppose there would be an LCP owner in the Fredericksburg or Spotsylvania, VA area who would take $20 to let me fire a couple of magazines through theirs? I belong to the range off Brock Rd. in Spotsylvania.
Would be interested in trying other pocket sized DA only 380s too. (unless someone has an SA with ambidextrous safety).
Thanks,
txgunsuscg
January 3, 2013, 02:41 PM
Just exactly how big a guy are you, txgunsuscg? Glove size please, if you know it. Curious how big is just too big for this gun. I haven't handled one yet.
I wear large to extra large depending on the cut of the glove. I'll see if I can get a pic of my grip on the LCP when I get home. For reference right now, here is a pic of my hand compared to a Smith 442.
Dreamliner787
January 3, 2013, 08:33 PM
It's a good small and reliable pocket gun, but the sights and trigger sucks. Went to the range with my friend and his LCP vs. the Sig P238 and the Sig won for getting the tightest groouping and target acquisition.
d-dogg
January 3, 2013, 10:00 PM
Update.
I got my hands on one tonight. Played with it for quite a while. Tried carrying it in front pocket, back pocket, shirt pocket, socks and waistband. Practiced drawing for all hiding places. With deference to all of you who had problems with the magazine accidentally ejecting, I simply don't see how, unless Ruger finally stiffened up the ejector button. I could not for the life of me made it accidentally eject.
Dry fired it a few times. Yes, it has a long trigger pull, but no worse than my P89. Observed that yes, the sights are next to useless, but I won't likely be using them.
Didn't feel the gun was too small for my hands, though I typically also wear a large to extra large glove (a size 11 actually, from back in the day when gloves and hats were actually made to fit).
Dealer made me a really good deal on it with a Laserlyte, so I brought it home. Will follow up Saturday afternoon when I have a chance to fire it at the range.
Thanks for all the well thought out and objective input!
ChopMeat
January 4, 2013, 10:23 AM
When I first got in to shooting and collecting guns, ruger was my first choice. Mostly on price and design. I have had problems with ever ruger I've owned. I don't knock them, they taught me a lot about firearms, with all the tweaking and parts I had to replace. From them I've learned the differences between average and excellent. I found most of my problems were with their magazines and the after market ones. Spend good money on your mags and everything is fine, short change the mags and your in trouble. I would never tell anyone not to buy a ruger, I just don't have anymore in my collection. I prefer sig, glock, and Springfield, but that's just me. Happy shooting and may your gun fire for ever for you.
Armybrat
January 4, 2013, 10:53 AM
Don't like the LCP because it's a bit harsh to shoot and the itty-bitty sights suck?
Then take a look at the brand new, just-announced (yesterday) Ruger LC380:
http://www.ruger.com/products/lc380/models.html
But I'm sticking with my LCP.
kokapelli
January 4, 2013, 12:00 PM
Don't like the LCP because it's a bit harsh to shoot and the itty-bitty sights suck?
Then take a look at the brand new, just-announced (yesterday) Ruger LC380:
http://www.ruger.com/products/lc380/models.html
But I'm sticking with my LCP.
The LC380 looks like it's just the LCR chambered for 380. If it is, what's the point?
If I'm going to have the same exact gun, I'd go with the 9mm version.
heeler
January 4, 2013, 12:14 PM
Perhaps Ruger is trying to make a 380 pistol that is more enjoyable to shoot.
Since we all know the LCP is not a range gun perhaps as far as 380 caliber goes this might be a better choice for range folks.
And I agree that at that size of gun I am going with my PM9 but the new Ruger still is sized for conceal carry for those who may be recoil sensitive and just want a bigger 380.
kokapelli
January 4, 2013, 12:17 PM
Perhaps Ruger is trying to make a 380 pistol that is more enjoyable to shoot.
Since we all know the LCP is not a range gun perhaps as far as 380 caliber goes this might be a better choice for range folks.
And I agree that at that size of gun I am going with my PM9 but the new Ruger still is sized for conceal carry for those who may be recoil sensitive and just want a bigger 380.
Good point and with the tilt barrel action it should have very soft felt recoil in 380.
d-dogg
January 5, 2013, 06:03 PM
Initial impression.
Sights as mentioned are useless. I'll try to paint the front. Gun seems to shoot low, but perhaps that is me not being used to its long trigger pull yet.
Trigger pull is long but smooth.
Fit in my hand not too bad.
Kick not bad at all considering how light the gun is.
I'm satisfied overall.
colorado_handgunner
January 7, 2013, 10:54 PM
I'm satisfied overall.
And that is the important thing. Enjoy your new gun. :)
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Clark
January 8, 2013, 12:24 AM
I own my own weight in handguns, some nice big ones, but it is the miserable little guns I carry:
1) 50% of the time 380 Ruger LCP with laser with pocket holster DESANTIS M44BJG5Z0 for LCP with laser marked "G5". I carry 90 gr Gold Dot bullets loaded with Power Pistol to 1100 fps.
2) 25% of the time 380 Kel-Tec P3AT with pocket clip in shirt pocket or DESANTIS M44BJG3Z0 for P3AT marked "G3", same ammo as the LCP
3) 10% of the time 9mm Kel-Tec PF9 Hinterbergen 100gr +P+ ammo and the holster is:
DESANTIS M44BJMKZ0 for PF9 marked "MK"
4) 5% of the time S&W model 60 with commercial 158 gr JHP 38 sp ammo
5) 1% 357 mag
6) 1% 45 Super
7) 1% 44 mag on hip when standing around in the woods.
8) etc
22longrifleguy
January 8, 2013, 05:50 PM
The LCP is a very small gun with a horrible recoil. I would like to see one in .22LR, possibly one that is printed in plastic using a 3D printer.
Thoughts? www.22longrifle.blogspot.com
heeler
January 8, 2013, 06:56 PM
I find the recoil on the LCP a bit sharp but hardly horrible.
I can regularly shoot 50-75 rounds at the range without feeling totally put out and I am not a big guy with big hands.
On the other hand my experience with an air weight J frame in .38 Special to be intolerable to the point that I sold mine and will probably never own another one.
76shuvlinoff
January 8, 2013, 07:01 PM
I carry my LCP a lot, I have nearly 300 flawless rds thru it. The only work I did to it was add a Keltec pocket clip and a piece of bicycle inner tube around the grip. At the ranges it was intended for it points naturally for me and is accurate enough. I don't even look at the "sights". If I slow fire the trigger stages nicely.
I have bigger, harder hitting, ballistically superior options but the LCP is there for me when those are not. I don't kid myself either, this little pistol is for intimate defensive work not a long day at the range.
jon_in_wv
January 8, 2013, 07:17 PM
The LCP is surprisingly accurate. The only limitation is the poor sights. mechanically I would bet its more accurate than most here are capable of shooting. I had and LCP and sold it after I purchased a S&W BG380. The BG380 chamber is about 3 times thicker compared to the LCP at its thinnest point. At one point in the chamber the LCP is literally paper thin. I would NOT feel comfortable shooting any of the more powerful 380 ammo through an LCP. The BG380 also have much better sights, a better trigger, and really gives up nothing as far as conceal ability. The BG380 is also a pretty accurate little shooter and the better sights make it much easier to make use of it. Both can be comfortably shot on the range for extended sessions. There is quite a bit of advice on here I just don't think sounds like it is coming from people who have actually owned one or done much shooting with one. I think the LCP makes a great BUG, but for primary concealment the BG380 is much better in that class of pistol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Ybql8mDbs
lonewolf5347
January 8, 2013, 10:09 PM
I just check the serail number 377-xxxxx I think it was made in 2012
I seem not to have any issue as far as sights ,the gun was design for a point and shoot gun for self defence by no means a target gun.I find the trigger pull is long but not heavy for me I see no difference if you were to shoot a S@W chief double action or the LCP
jigglyjames29
January 9, 2013, 04:57 PM
For those that hate the recoil, try the hogue LCP grip made specifically for the LCP AND a 13lb Wolf recoil spring.
helitack32f1
January 10, 2013, 02:00 AM
I never had a problem with the reliability or recoil of my LCP. Very nice little gun but I decided to get rid of it due to the fact that I bought it to use when I couldn't carry my Glock 23. After a couple of years I found that there really were no times that I couldn't carry my G23.
The final straw though was I let a buddy shoot it and asI was watching, i noticed he had to readjust his grip on the gun after every shot, just as I had to do. Even holding the gun, it feels as though it wants to roll forward in my hand. I sold it with the idea of buying a Taurus TCP which feels better to me or some other.380 but realized I just don't have any need for a .380.
As far as easy to shoot .380's go, my wife got a Walther PK380 for various reasons, and it is a very easy to shoot gun due to size and weight. The slide is extremely easy to rack which was a major selling point as my wife could no longer actuate the slide on her Glock 23, not to mention just about any other .380.
hemiram
January 10, 2013, 06:55 AM
I shot a friend's LCP and I wasn't impressed. It wasn't fun to shoot and I had to constantly readjust my grip. I already have what I consider the "king of .380's", the Beretta 84, and it's closed slide twin, the Browning BDA .380, both are a pleasure to shoot and I got both of them in nice shape for less than $300 each.
kokapelli
January 10, 2013, 08:18 AM
I shot a friend's LCP and I wasn't impressed. It wasn't fun to shoot and I had to constantly readjust my grip. I already have what I consider the "king of .380's", the Beretta 84, and it's closed slide twin, the Browning BDA .380, both are a pleasure to shoot and I got both of them in nice shape for less than $300 each.
Yes but try putting them into your pocket!
Houser52
January 10, 2013, 11:55 AM
A couple years ago OI bought a LCP and a Keltec P3AT.
Both were reliable but the LCP had a lot better fit and finish. The number one downside to the LCP was that it's slick, not grippy enough for my hands and I couldn't hold onto it.
Sold the LCP and kept the Keltec. I carry it daily in a Bear Creek Wallet holster.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd66/houser52/Holster001.jpg
heeler
January 10, 2013, 02:38 PM
Houser,my brother has been looking at one of those back pocket holsters and I was wondering if the pistol can be seen while carrying it in that mode.
That is a nice looking holster by the way.
leadchucker
January 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
I have a holster like that. Fits nicely in a front pocket. It will also fit in a rear pocket, but the gun isn't so easy to get to then.
The holster shows in the pocket. The beauty of a holster like that is that it appears to be a wallet.
460Kodiak
January 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
The fact that it is chambered in 380 maybe....... sorry jost ribbing.
Clark
January 11, 2013, 01:00 PM
The 380 in a bigger better case support pistol, I can do 1187 fps 158 gr and exceed the 357 mag for that barrel length.
But not in an LCP.
The most I can get out of an LCP is 1100 fps 90 gr Gold Dot.
And that is right on the edge.
Edge of what?
The case support in my LCP is at .270".
The only 380 I have seen that is worse is the Kel Tec P3AT at .290".
That really limits the power with hand loads.
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