Still have not got my 1858 Rem (Back ordered) have got EVERYTHING else for it. Have been doing lots of research videos all that. Now I have lots of guns and each one I get all the stuff that goes along with the conversion is the only thing I can find that I haven't got for it. This is my first B/P and I tell you I feel like its my first red rider cant wait to take it out,
Back to the conversion I saw two types gated and non gated.
Do they work? and if so how well, Is it worth the trouble time and money?
I'm thinking not, I have a hard time leaving well enough alone.
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January 1, 2013, 06:16 PM
Why don't you enjoy it for a year as a cap and ball revolver and then decide if you have any interest in the conversion? For most people there's not really that much point and for the cost of a conversion you could get a whole different revolver, maybe see how you like things on the Colt side of the fence or whatever.
January 1, 2013, 10:05 PM
I have a conversion cylinder for my Ruger Old Army and use it occasionally to shoot SWCs with Unique at ~ 850 fps. I prefer shooting my ROA with 3FG BP but don't like to clean 'em as much as shoot 'em.
I don't know if I'd trust one with an Italian gun. Just my personal opinion.
January 2, 2013, 12:55 AM
I shoot conversion cylinders in all my BP revolvers. I have never had a problem and they have always worked as advertised. I reload all my ammo wtih lead bullits and stay light on the powder. Go for it. It's a nice break from black powder sometimes.
January 2, 2013, 01:58 AM
I wish I'd just bought four more percussion cylinders, for each gun, rather than the conversion cylinders, but I guess I'm just a sucker for any new fad that comes along, because I have three revolvers so equiped.....
January 2, 2013, 10:44 AM
I have a Howell conversion cylinder for my Pietta New Army's and it works great. Mine is the non-gated 5 shot model. I have used it in CAS matches without a hitch. It allows me to shoot .45 Colt and .45 Schofield ammo.
I went with the non-gated version because of ease of removing the cylinder from the New Army:
I also have a Uberti 3rd Model Dragoon with a non-gated R&D conversion cylinder in .45 Colt. It is fun to shoot, but involves a few more steps to load. I would love to have it eventually converted to a gated version:
Regarding cost, yes, you can usually buy a cartridge revolver for less money than buying a C&B revolver and a conversion cylinder. In my case, I bought this Remmie so long ago that buying the cylinder, which cost about $200 at the time, was like getting a new cartridge revolver for just $200. Not a bad deal. The other Remmie I have is a stainless Uberti that I bought used and it came with a similar cylinder. The price of the used revolver with cylinder was about the same as the cost of a used cartridge revolver, so again, monetarily it made good sense. But I doubt if I would spend the money all at once for a C&B and a conversion cylinder.
I shoot nothing but Black Powder in CAS, and so shooting Black Powder 45 Colt and 45 Schofield cartridges in a Remmie conversion makes perfect sense. I usually shoot a pair of 2nd Gen Colts, but sometimes I feel like something different and I will bring the Remmies along instead.
These are the six round 45 Colt conversion cylinders for 45 Colt. You will notice that the 45 Colt conversion cylinders for the 1858 Remmie sold by Kenny Howell's Old West Conversions are only 5 rounds. That is because Kenny sold the rights to his original six shot Remmie conversion cylinders to Taylors. They are the sole distributor of six shot 45 Colt conversion cylinders for the 1858 Remington.
I like this style of conversion cylinder instead of the gated ones because I can change the gun back and forth between cartridges and percussion just by switching cylinders. No modification of the frame was needed. This works fine with a Remmie because it is so quick to pop the cylinder out for unloading and loading. Not so with a Colt style. That's why I only have conversion cylinders for Remmies.
I had a few R&D Cylinders but then got tired of them so i went gated and now i will never go back.
I guess for me i got tired of having to take the cylinder out all the time to do something. So now i have a few cap and ball cylinders and y gated. For my 1858 i have 2 gated and 1 cap and ball. Gated 45acp and 45 colt. then the cap and ball. I have to of course change cylinders to do the major change in cartridges however lets say i put in the 45 colt. Well then i am shooting either 45 colt or 45 shofield. When ammo gets low. i pull it out and put in the 45 acp. then same when i get low on cartridges i can put in the cap and ball.