Massive Rally February 8th


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Crash_Test_Dhimmi
January 1, 2013, 05:02 PM
February 8th, at every state capital, 10AM, Open Carry where applicable.

Peaceful demonstration at every state capital for our 2nd amendment rights

http://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/?ref=notif&notif_t=plan_user_joined

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Ragnar Danneskjold
January 2, 2013, 03:18 AM
I don't have Facebook so I can't see it.

But I would recommend anyone attending any sort of firearms or liberty oriented rally, to dress as nicely and well groomed as possible, and make sure any signs, shirts, buttons etc you have are as non inflammatory as possible.

Basically, the other side views the entire body of firearms owners as a bunch of sloppy, ignorant, uneducated, racist, violent yokels. Do EVERYTHING you can to be the exact opposite of that perception.

freyasman
January 2, 2013, 08:19 AM
And I second Ragnar's suggestion above. The media ALWAYS tries to find the most ignorant person they can to interview at these things; so maybe appoint one well-spoken individual to do the talking to any media.

ErikO
January 2, 2013, 10:36 AM
https://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/

Yes, this is a FB planning thing, so it may or may not reflect the actual number of folks attending.

Where: every state capital

When: Feb 8, 2013, 10am EST

I'll be in Jefferson City, MO that day with as many folks as I can bring with.

68wj
January 2, 2013, 11:03 AM
Study your facts and know that you may be challenged. Have the stats at hand and be aware of the soundbite.

Edit: Just realized I posted in the dupe thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=692806

Rail Driver
January 2, 2013, 11:45 AM
I'll be attending in Tallahassee, FL and I invite all of my fellow Florida 2nd Amendment supporters to attend as well. I look forward to seeing you all there!

ErikO
January 2, 2013, 05:07 PM
Study your facts and know that you may be challenged. Have the stats at hand and be aware of the soundbite.

Edit: Just realized I posted in the dupe thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=692806
Hey HSO, can these be merged? My bad...

ErikO
January 2, 2013, 05:09 PM
MO's rules are no permit needed if you're not using amplified speech and your signs are neither attached to the Capitol building or grounds and have no obscene pictures or words.

The plan is for tri-color signs (red white and blue) that carry direct, atribbutable quotes from the Founders. The FB event said OC if possible, but February in MO means that they'd be CCW, so be sure to have your permit if you do.

TheGloriousTachikoma
January 2, 2013, 08:51 PM
Erik, I'm thinking that 'founder quotes' may not be the best given how one of the anti's arguments is that they were inherently wrong. At least, the emphasis should not be on them, IMHO.

Rail Driver
January 2, 2013, 10:58 PM
Just a note - I learned today after spending most of the day promoting the event, that the "organizer" of this event has no intention of handling or contributing to permitting and insurance requirements of the various states.

gym
January 2, 2013, 11:41 PM
I would think that one massive rallye would trump 50 half baked ones. If we marched in washington, it would be covered by cnn and every news agency. It would get worldwide attention and the White house would get a little nervous ,"to say the least" it should be on a sunday, so folks could fly or drive into the city, and paralyze it. That would get thier attention, like the million man march, and the washington moretoriums back in the day. This is going to be too easy to diffuse, and some states will show poor numbers. We should take this to the White House Lawn. Right up to the Washington Monument, Past the Viet Nam Wall, where men died for freedom.

DoubleMag
January 3, 2013, 12:43 AM
what gym said^^^




...well good to go for something getting done!


Unfortunately it would be IMPOSSIBLE to organize every state as an individual march that fast. Early in the month of March would be a good march...kind of a slogan. I don't have facebook can someone suggest it. Also each state has different rules about marches....and would have to be sorted out. Its just not that easy, parking, permits etc the logistics alone almost mandates a later date.

like post #8 says and here..."MO's rules are no permit needed if you're not using.... " Well what if someone who didnt know showed up with a speaker system and then, the state police told everyone to pack up and go home. Wouldn't that look just swell but hey...the march was held really quick??




Not a wet blanket here...but 98% of these state's problem is WASHINGTON DC...eventually a march should be planned, there.

Just a thought and BTW will the NRA come willingly, or what?!

Rail Driver
January 3, 2013, 01:04 AM
what gym said^^^




...well good to go for something getting done!


Unfortunately it would be IMPOSSIBLE to organize every state as an individual march that fast. Early in the month of March would be a good march...kind of a slogan. I don't have facebook can someone suggest it. Also each state has different rules about marches....and would have to be sorted out. Its just not that easy, parking, permits etc the logistics alone almost mandates a later date.

like post #8 says and here..."MO's rules are no permit needed if you're not using.... " Well what if someone who didnt know showed up with a speaker system and then, the state police told everyone to pack up and go home. Wouldn't that look just swell but hey...the march was held really quick??




Not a wet blanket here...but 98% of these state's problem is WASHINGTON DC...eventually a march should be planned, there.

Just a thought and BTW will the NRA come willingly, or what?!
The NRA doesn't support or advocate marches. They claim that they're ineffective. I have this in writing via message on facebook directly from the NRA page when they were invited by me to sponsor the event (before I found out that the organizer of the event isn't actually interested in organizing anything or taking responsibility for anything more than the facebook event page).

I hate to say it, but in the major gun rights legislative battles I've looked into, the NRA's fighting against gun control measures has been somewhat lackluster and less than effective.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=468

DoubleMag
January 3, 2013, 09:06 AM
RD

from that snippet... ''The NRA doesn't support or advocate marches. They claim that they're ineffective.'' Yes perhaps, but WOULD BE EFECTIVE ... if THEY organized it!!

I thought their lackluster 'position' hadn't hanged just wanted to hear it again.

Yes absolutely an extrememly valuable organization with many victories. Time for a change of this position perhaps??


I will add to poster gym's^^^ comment one thing I didn't think of, the reality ...especially at this stage...that not everyone can drive all the way to DC. State rallys are a must friends I only (?) the DATE:)

Organizing SECURITY is an absolute MUST. Unless you want infiltraitors (did I spell that right?!!) on the march, causing serious problems. NO WAY to get it all together in 30 days!!!

gym
January 3, 2013, 04:40 PM
I know that it's going to be hard for some of us to get to Washington, but we did it back in the 60's and it touched the entire nation. I haven't left my state in 17 years, "bad back", but if it needed to be done, "and it apparantlly does", I would find a way to get there.
I don't care what the NRA thinks about it, "and I am a member in good standing", they are wrong. The only thing that this administration will listen to, is a massive mobilization. Otherwise we may as well stay home.
I think we really need to turn up the heat on this for our future generations. If we allow them to do what they plan on doing, we are going to loose big. If Obama sees a million people outside his window, he will change his mind on this, as he values his public image so much, and no one has challanged him on it.
People have gotten lazy, and something this important needs a little sacrafice, I know it's really inconvienient and expensive for some, but think of it as a vacation with a million friends. The NRA should get behind something BIG, and realize that it's the only way to stop this nonsense, we need to show up in Numbers. Shut the whole city down, and let them know how many people value their rights, above a couple of ancient politicians who don't know the first thing about guns. It's like putting Joe Biden in charge of good taste. He and Feinstein don't have a clue about what they are doing.
While we sit around and wait for someone to save us, we are slowlly going south.

bubbameat
January 3, 2013, 07:07 PM
Well stated. We need something big, stubborn but peaceful.

Yosemite Sam
January 3, 2013, 08:58 PM
I'd go if this weren't on a damned Friday. Whose bright idea was it to schedule a rally on a work day?

hovercat
January 3, 2013, 09:24 PM
Instead of open/concealed carry, I would suggest that every marcher have an empty long gun case. Light to carry for us old folks, and hard to trump up a charge of 'brandishing' or threatening with a piece of cloth. Tape a pro gun bumper sticker to it and it becomes protected free speech.

Rail Driver
January 3, 2013, 10:32 PM
I'd go if this weren't on a damned Friday. Whose bright idea was it to schedule a rally on a work day?
What good does protesting in front of the capitol building on the weekend when all the legislators are home with their families do?

Yosemite Sam
January 3, 2013, 10:46 PM
What good does protesting in front of the capitol building on the weekend when all the legislators are home with their families do?
That's a good point as well, but I'd say that a lot of people work on Fridays and turnout on a weekend (with media coverage) could go from 100 people to 2000+. I think media coverage is the whole point.

SouthernYankee
January 3, 2013, 10:56 PM
The one thing ALL politicians understand is numbers. That's why the silent majority is often overcome by a vociferous minority. If we make enough noise, especially in every capital, it will be heard. My son works for a Rep. and tracks these kinds of things. When the number hits a certain threshold, I'm sure different for each state, that's when the warning flag goes up for the Legislators. We need to hit that number + in each state.
BTW, invite your REP.s

MCMXIautomatic
January 6, 2013, 03:43 AM
Bump

Lone Ranger
January 6, 2013, 01:45 PM
Wish they could have picked April or May. More people would probably come out due to friendlier weather.

Monster Zero
January 10, 2013, 05:36 PM
It's sounding like February 8th is gonna be too little too late.

ccsniper
January 10, 2013, 07:10 PM
some stats for your research

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/guns.cfm

Half of all gun related deaths in America are from suicides

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25463844/ns/us_news-life/t/surprising-fact-half-gun-deaths-are-suicides/#.UO9XWOQpyFB

http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/gun_violence/sect01.html

481
January 10, 2013, 08:50 PM
I am not sure that marches accomplish much.

Letters, emails, and phone calls to our elected officials are much harder to ignore and have a cummulative effect that remains long after everyone has left the rally site.

Bury 'em in correspondence demanding that they obey the US Constitution and stop punishing innocent law-abiding gun-owners for the acts of a two-legged piece of waste.

creitzel
January 10, 2013, 09:02 PM
I am not sure that marches accomplish much.

Letters, emails, and phone calls to our elected officials are much harder to ignore and have a cummulative effect that remains long after everyone has left the rally site.

Bury 'em in correspondence demanding that they obey the US Constitution and stop punishing innocent law-abiding gun-owners for the acts of a two-legged piece of waste.

I'm all for letters, and such, and I've written my representative, and my senators, and I will probably do so again, several times before all of this is over.

All that said, I am still in favor of this. I think there is something to be said for the visual of a bunch of gun owners gathered at their state capitol buildings all around the country in support of our cause.

I'll be attending :-)

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