Best 'All around' .357 Lead bullet


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aliveisalive
January 2, 2013, 04:28 AM
Hey all, I have a large stock of small pistol primers and tite group from when I loaded .38specials a few years back. However my shooting and reloading took a decent hiatius.

I am now looking for a good weight .357 lead bullet that I can use with my large pile of titegroup to go from .38 style light loads to hot 'magnum' loads.

I prefer lighter loads in my mod 60 and lcr .357, but hot loads in the vaquero and gp100 are fun.

Just want a good all around bullet that I can buy 3k of and dive in! (links may be helpful too, havent done this in a while)

Thanks!
Brian

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KansasSasquatch
January 2, 2013, 05:48 AM
This is what I'd go with http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=52&category=5&secondary=&keywords=. Or something else from MO Bullet. Take a look around their website and you'll surely find something that you like.

Sport45
January 2, 2013, 06:30 AM
What are you shooting at? Watcutters and semiwadcutters cut the best holes in paper. Semiwadcutters are probably the best cast bullets for hunting. Round nose are great for plinking and any kind of competition that involves reloading quickly.

aliveisalive
January 2, 2013, 07:51 AM
Just looking for basic plinking really. Was wondering if any weight in particular would be more suitable for the whole specturm of loads power wise

frankmako
January 2, 2013, 07:53 AM
148gr wad cutter and/or 158 gr rn is what i like for cast lead.

ColtPythonElite
January 2, 2013, 07:58 AM
Hard to beat a 158 SWC

USSR
January 2, 2013, 08:05 AM
Best 'All around' .357 Lead bullet


Sorry, but you don't buy the best lead bullets, you cast them yourself.

Don

dragon813gt
January 2, 2013, 08:15 AM
Sorry, but you don't buy the best lead bullets, you cast them yourself.

Don

I agree with this statement. I cast many bullets for 357. But this MP 360-640 is my current favorite.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/dragon813gt/Firearms/Reloading/9753082D-8B17-4761-B807-F8E65B7D6DA4-15008-000007EDBFB0304A.jpg


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LUCKYDAWG13
January 2, 2013, 08:40 AM
im in the cast your own camp a good mold is the Lyman 358477

10 Spot Terminator
January 2, 2013, 09:00 AM
Pretty sure you would be better off getting 2 seperate bullets. Light .38 loads using cast bullets made of softer alloys such as 25 to 1 pure lead to tin tend to perform better where your full house .357 loads need to be of a hardcast alloy and better yet have gas checks. A good 158 gr. Semi Wadcutter should fit your bill and as stated earlier the best way to get them is to cast your own. Most all commercial bullets are hardcast . Try these folks as they will cast up whatever you want and are the only custom casters I personally know of . Montana Bullet Works . Just google this and you are on your way. By the way it would be a great idea to have the cylinders mic'd and the bores slugged on both your pistols. A .001 variance can make or break good cast bullet performance as cast bullet fit is critical. The cylinders should mic out at least .001 larger than the slug retrieved from the bore as cast bullets should be sized .001 ( as a rule ) larger than the bore to seal correctly but not be shaved down by the cyinders to a size equal to or less than the bore. If the latter occurs you will get gas cutting and leading and all round poor performance. These measurements will help you to order your custom bullets correctly and put you on track for better load developement much quicker and more stress free. Hope this helps and happy shooting sir !

10 Spot

rodinal220
January 2, 2013, 10:17 AM
Lyman #358429

USSR
January 2, 2013, 10:44 AM
FWIW, I've got the same mould as dragon813gt. What his photo doesn't show you is the gaping hollowpoint that this mould produces.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRan6OolTioXaWf9EpSXr-ZY-J5tWwfzNfDstl6ZQbb-WrWqmklIg

It is also my favorite .38 Special and .357 Magnum bullet, although I also have the Lyman 358429 which is a great SWC.

Don

dragon813gt
January 2, 2013, 11:03 AM
FWIW, I've got the same mould as dragon813gt. What his photo doesn't show you is the gaping hollowpoint that this mould produces.


That's because mine is a solid. I don't have the HP version of the mold. A 170 grain soild is plenty for taking down a whitetail :)



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USSR
January 2, 2013, 11:20 AM
That's because mine is a solid. I don't have the HP version of the mold.

So it isn't a Cramer style mould? With mine, I can reverse the pins and create solids also. I thought all of Miha's moulds were the Cramer style? Guess not. Still, there is nothing better than casting with a brass mould.

Don

ArkieVol
January 2, 2013, 01:15 PM
+1 for Missouri Bullets

http://www.missouribullet.com/index.php

They offer, among many other choices, soft and hard alloy .38/.357 158g SWC's.

dragon813gt
January 2, 2013, 01:18 PM
Correct, mine is not a Cramer style mold. He produces solid molds as well. I stopped buying Cramer molds unless it's all he's offering. To much of a pain to use since I don't really have a need for hollowpoints.


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R.W.Dale
January 2, 2013, 01:21 PM
I have a crazy idea in my head to use someones 158g cast swc and some of the 1000's of 38 cases I have on hand to load a near magnum 38 load to have a 1000 of handy that'd be good for animals of two to four legs.

I don't own nor do I intend to own a strictly 38 firearm so I'm not creating an especially high risk of blowing up a 38 that I'll never own.

I figure if I can get 1100 fps from a 6" revolver I'd be set.




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USSR
January 2, 2013, 02:25 PM
Yep, R.W.Dale, that's exactly how it was done prior to the advent of the .357 Magnum. As long as you can ensure that it never finds it's way into a .38 Special, 13.5gr of 2400 will get you to .357 Magnum performance levels.

Don

aliveisalive
January 2, 2013, 05:46 PM
The preferred weight appears to be 158 grain.. I'll be getting something in that range then!

I most likely wont do 'nuclear full house' loads as I am the epitome of a causal shooter...I don't hunt and even when I set up paper targets I usually wind up just shooting at cans or something anyway!

aliveisalive
January 2, 2013, 05:50 PM
I think I'll be getting 2x boxes of 158 brinell 12 Round Nose and 1x box of 158 swc brinell 18.

Thanks all!

James2
January 2, 2013, 07:39 PM
My Lyman 358311 throws a 158 grain bullet. I have used that in both 38 and 357 with good success. It is a round nose type. I think that bullet weight is a good one for these calibers.

LNK
January 2, 2013, 07:47 PM
Kind of like the 357429 Keith 170gr SWC infront of 2400. Real accurate load in my 4" GP100....

Left out the charge on purpose...

LNK

Sport45
January 3, 2013, 01:45 AM
I think I'll be getting 2x boxes of 158 brinell 12 Round Nose and 1x box of 158 swc brinell 18.


Good choices.

35 Whelen
January 3, 2013, 01:53 AM
Lyman #358429
Yeeep!

Reefinmike
January 3, 2013, 04:25 AM
my favorite is homemade. 80% clip on ww's, 20% pure lead alloy in a lee 6 cavity 158gr swc tumble lube mold and quenched. bullets get 50 drops/150 bullets of 70/30 alox/mineral spirits dilution, sized to .358" and then lubed again with same method as before. it took a while but I finally have zero leading. even after 250 rounds.

meadmkr
January 3, 2013, 07:22 AM
These days I don't shoot much .38/.357 but have a number of loads using Missouri Bullets (158gr).

Back when I was a broke enlisted man we loaded either 000 Buckshot for 'powderpuff loads' or 148gr hollow base wadcutters for lighter plinking rounds. Self-defense rounds were those same 148gr HBW seated backwards (out of a snubby .38). For both hunting and silhoutte shooting it was the 158gr hard cast in at "warm" loadings to make sure that danm metal ram tipped over!

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