[LubeckTech]

Has Dianne introduced her Senate bill as she stated she would today?
What about the Mag bill for the house?

[mokin]

I read that she has postponed introducing it until the 22nd ( a link to something on CALGUNS). Waiting to see what happened in Illinois as well as coordinating with the anti-gunners in Washington.

[Slipknot_Slim]

Watch for the magazine capacity bill tomorrow, but I'm betting it doesn't come by itself. I think it'll piggyback on other legislation.

[Jeff White]

Illinois gun grabbers tabled it today amidst a groundswell of public disapproval. It will come up again, but there was no traction for it in the Illinois Senate today.

[Yo Mama]

And this is the best news I've heard!

[1911 guy]

Looking into my notoriously unreliable crystal ball, I see a piggyback on tax legislation, spending legislation or some other "very important" stuff that has been gaffed off for the last four years but suddenly MUST be passed and this (or portions of it) will ride along with it.

The postponement seems to time nicely with re opening negotiations on the fiscal cliff after the stop-gap compromise.

[Jimineer]

Don't know about you but I am praying for Diane Feinstein. Can you guess what I'm praying for? She's 80'ish.

[Geneseo1911]

Don't lose heart, folks. The public still overwhelmingly supports gun rights, and they are on notice. If we can stop it in Illinois, we can stop it anywhere.

[Silent Bob]

Feinstein did not introduce AWB 2.0 today, but DeGette of Colorado introduced the high-cap mag ban today in the House.

[Yo Mama]

^Maybe not, we can't find a HR number, and only one source discussed it.

[RX-178]

The source seems to be DeGette's own webpage, claiming that it was introduced in the house with 140 co-sponsors.

(For perspective, H.R. 308, the failed attempt at this same bill last time, had 138 co-sponsors)

[TAKtical]

Seems like a good sign to me.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Senator Feinstein cannot introduce her bill until the Senate opens on January 22nd. She will need Sen. Reid's support to get a straight floor vote on it, though she can always attempt to amend it to any other legislation where it is deemed germane to that bill (which is often interpreted loosely in the Senate.

[Ranald]

:::SIGH::: Im an old guy, retired (mostly) and thinking about what I will be leaving those left behind when I check-out. Ive enjoyed guns and gun-rights all my life starting in childhood. Gun ownership is one of the things (along with the 2nd Amendment) that makes our beloved country unique in the world and unique in history and I'd like to think that tradition and uniqueness should and will continue. I refuse to co-operate with the weeping Willies and sob-sisters who tell me I have no "need" for semi-auto weapons and "large capacity" magazines. Major civil disobedience. Not yet sure how that will play out until we know what can be passed and foisted on the public as "law", meaning the latest subversion of the Constitution. There will be a legal fight and probable argument before the Supremes.
I think this is one we can win if we fight.

[RX-178]

Here's the bill numbers, now online at Thomas.

H.R.137

H.R.138

H.R.141

H.R.142

[Art Eatman]

All from McCarthy. Referred to Judiciary. No text available from the printing office for another couple or three days.

Lamar Smith, chairman of the Judiciary Committee is pro-2A. I'm sure that the minority-party ladies from California will have comments.

The committee: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/committees/HSJU

Thomas Locator: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php If you don't know a bill number, you can search by a Rep or Sen name.

[Yo Mama]

H.R.137-Background check on everyone

H.R.138-High cap magazine

H.R.141-Background check at gunshows

H.R.142-Ammo only face to face, no internet purchasing

Looks like they are going to come at this on all sides.

[rim]

I believe DiFi can submit her AWB bill no earlier than 22 Jan 2013

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[Onward Allusion]

Jimineer
Don't know about you but I am praying for Diane Feinstein. Can you guess what I'm praying for? She's 80'ish.

Heh, no need to pray for THAT. Two of the oldest current US Senators who also happen to be vehemently anti-2nd Amendment are Feinstein (79.5) and Lautenberg (89 on 1/23/13).

Pray for the US economy instead!

[Onward Allusion]

Yo Mama

H.R.137-Background check on everyone
H.R.138-High cap magazine
H.R.141-Background check at gunshows
H.R.142-Ammo only face to face, no internet purchasing

Looks like they are going to come at this on all sides.

I think 2 of the 4 will pass easily - 137 & 141

[Ranald]

In Colorado we've had BGC at gunshows and BGC to purchase from a dealer for some years now.
Until this emergency buying there have been minimal issues with it- other than the aggravation of being assumed a criminal for 5-20 minutes and having to ask permission to exersize a God-given natural right enshrined in the BofR. Now the system has crashed and it could take weeks to get it up and running again. Glad that my shopping was done before Xmas!

[Batty67]

I think 2 of the 4 will pass easily - 137 & 141
I agree. I even (mostly) agree with them. And I've sold two pistols in face-to-face private sales in Virginia.

I think a high-cap ban, possibly with "teeth" (the ultimate would be making them all contraband, less would be restricting transfers) is coming. Completely assinine? Yes. Hard to implement/enforce, yes. So, there will be grandfathering and the damn term "pre-ban" will come back into vogue.

Banning internet sales of ammunition seems highly unlikely. And it's (of course) pure BS. But I think will happen is a massive (think cigarette/gas) tax on all ammunition sales to pay for all this AWB and related programs. And to punitively hit the common man trying to buy ammunition.

[BulletArc47]

As far as I've heard the bill will be introduced on the 22nd of January.

[gunguy0829]

Ranald they are saying up to 8-9 days to get a background check.

[Bentley4700]

Sorry to get off topic... Gunguy, I have been waiting 15 days now. I think it might have crashed...

[RX-178]

As a suggestion, these bills are listed at govtrack.us, which has a 'take a position' button to gauge popular support, through popvox.

Here's the two that the board seems to think (I'm not disagreeing) are the most likely to pass.

HR141 has 11% voicing support through popvox, vs 89% against it.
HR137 has 8% voicing support, vs 92% against.

I submit that these support percentages are still too high, and we should take a moment to make them smaller.

[John Q. Pirate]

Originally posted by RX-178:

As a suggestion, these bills are listed at govtrack.us, which has a 'take a position' button to gauge popular support, through popvox.

Here's the two that the board seems to think (I'm not disagreeing) are the most likely to pass.

HR141 has 11% voicing support through popvox, vs 89% against it.
HR137 has 8% voicing support, vs 92% against.

I submit that these support percentages are still too high, and we should take a moment to make them smaller.

I signed up with popvox and did my part, but here's a disturbing little tidbit from that site:

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/x101

The above link is not an actual bill up for consideration, but simply a call for "common sense legislation to end gun violence" which calls to:

1. Require criminal background checks for ALL gun sales, including private sales.
2. Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
3. Make gun trafficking a federal crime.

...proposed by none other than -

Mayors Against Illegal Guns!

This "petition" of sorts currently has 45,364 votes, with 92% in favor.

It's an uphill battle, but we need to turn that around BIG TIME!