Gun owners and the pocket book - our advantage.


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Ash
January 6, 2013, 11:13 AM
Eh, never mind. Forget I mentioned it.

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Double Naught Spy
January 6, 2013, 12:04 PM
First, we can be arrested and incarcerated. Who will replace our productive capacity?

You are suggesting we all get ourselves arrested and incarcerated? Are you out of your mind?

Second, and better, we can simply refuse to participate in the labor market in a way similar to the African Americans who refused to ride the buses in Montgomery. Their boycott won.

No, their boycott did not win. A court case was won (Browder v. Gayle) and the boycott was ended, but the boycott did not force any federal court decision. The boycott was simply a publicity protest.

The boycott went from December 1, 1955 to December 20, 1956. Note that the boycott did not end until the June 1956 decision went into effect on December 20. In other words, the decision occurred 5 months beforehand. The boycott and the court decision producing the beneficial result were two separate but concurrent events.

However, if you want to go ahead and pull yourself from the labor market to show us how it is done, please do. However, if history is a better indication, then a lawsuit might be a much better idea. Note that the Montgomery bus line did not go before the court, or the City of Montgomery, and plead with the court to end segregation because they weren't earning enough money on bus faires and demanding African Americans be given full rights to right.

Dean Weingarten
January 6, 2013, 12:38 PM
They understand donations and primary threats better. Stick and carrot. Remind them that we remember long after the media has moved to another socialist cause.

Remind them that the MSM is not their freind, and that any bill needs to have controls on the coverage of mass shootings built into it. That gives them a talking point to show that they are "doing something".

hso
January 6, 2013, 12:56 PM
You can't expect the "productive class" to threaten to run themselves financially by quitting their jobs or taking time off to get arrested. That simply is not a reasonable expectation and won't be taken seriously. Very few people are interested in martyrdom.

What is good about the idea is that being able to contribute money to unseat elected officials and support RKBA organizations makes us strong is we actually mean it and only dig into our pockets and send that money where it can do us the most good for us.

An interesting point is how many people might ignore registration and be made criminals by these misguided ban proposals. . Just through not following the debate people might go to jail when it is discovered they have a prohibited/restricted weapon. There's a double economic impact there. That also means industries supporting thousands might also be put out of work with the negative economic impact. If semis are suddenly made NFA what licensing burdens will befall Gander, WalMart, Academy and the local gun stores that don't currently sell ARs. What happens to the distributors then? What happens to the manufacturers that aren't SOTs? Even making semis a $5 tax stamp item may seem innocuous to the public, but the licensing is expensive to the entire chain from the retailer to the manufacturer. Then the economic impact to the government expanding the staff needed to process approvals and tax on these transfers. The impact on local government getting the CLEO signatures and finger printing will be significant if they claim it won't actually be a ban.

beatledog7
January 6, 2013, 01:28 PM
Very few people are interested in martyrdom.

When the Founders fought tyranny, they did indeed martyr themselves, saying at the end of the Declaration: "we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."

And in many cases, they suffered persecution, incarceration, even death, so that this country could gain its freedom. But today we're more interested in maintaining our comfort zone than in putting things like our lives, fortunes, and honor on the line.

Could it be that honor simply isn't sacred anymore? I dare say it seems so. This gross lack of sacrificial dedication to a cause larger than our personal comfort is why we are where we are.

Ash
January 6, 2013, 07:59 PM
And my point was the exact opposite, though few really bothered to read. My point was to flex our muscle by pointing out we could strike, warn of a strike. I'm not interested in martyrdom nor did I recommend it. Oh well, deleted it all, not worth the bother. Let's fall divided.

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