Taurus Acquires Diamondback Firearms


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PT92
January 7, 2013, 11:13 AM
Diamondback makes a nice little affordable gun IMO--Seems typical of the corporate arena now where lots of consolidation seems to be occurring:

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=35774

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Sgt.Murtaugh
January 7, 2013, 11:25 AM
so my least favorite mainstream manufacturer purchased probably my 2nd least favorite manufacturer. Now they can synergize and make crappy guns more efficiently.

I have owned 2 Tauruses and 1 Diamondback. All 3 of them made 2 trips back to the factories before I finally had enough and sold them at a huge loss.

never again.

JR47
January 7, 2013, 05:12 PM
I know just how you feel. S&W, maker of over-priced, cheap, handguns bought Thompson Center, a maker of mediocre quality rifles. Together, they've produced a number of guns that are subject to multiple recalls.

Maybe we could sell all of them to China.

Jim NE
January 7, 2013, 05:31 PM
I know just how you feel. S&W, maker of over-priced, cheap, handguns bought Thompson Center, a maker of mediocre quality rifles. Together, they've produced a number of guns that are subject to multiple recalls.

:) :) Well put.


I wonder if some of these smaller companies aren't worried about liability lawsuits? Like Hi-Point being sued recently because some low life shot another guy with a Hi-Point. A larger corporation like Taurus might be able to absorb the costs of such suits (which are groundless, in my opinion.)

On the other hand, Taurus also acquired Heritage recently, and I can't see cowboy single action .22's being used that much in crime.

Both Heritage and Diamondback are Florida based companies, which is where Taurus USA is. Makes me wonder if they aren't planning to start making more Taurus brand product in the US (they already make their PT-22's here.) We'll see.

MagnumDweeb
January 7, 2013, 05:46 PM
Never owned a Diamondback pistol before but yeah as a Floridian it looks like Taurus is trying to buy up Florida companies to eliminate cost competitors and streamline their production lines. Diamondback was essentially the alternative to cheap small autos from Taurus, Ruger, and Kel-Tec. And they were growing well, not great but still well, and by the looks of it, well enough for Taurus to make a gamble on the ROR of purchasing the company. It would give Taurus more production capacity here in Florida instead of having to first create it, so it seems like a logical move from an investment standpoint.

Oh and I own a Taurus PT99 and PT92, great guns. Have never touched their revolvers.

JR47
January 8, 2013, 10:48 AM
It's good to also remember that Taurus has very little in the way of American manufacturing capability. Other than the Ply22 and 25, everything was made in Brazil. This adds complications to the logistics, and involves an ever growing number of both regulations, and agencies.

The capacity to build here also removes one more barrier to LEO Departmental purchasing.

I've had trouble with multiple S&W products, both pistol and revolver, over the years. Invariably, the advice was "send it back, as many times as it takes, they'll get it right." They actually did, once on the fifth return. How hard is it to tighten a barrel that had worked loose? Then return it with the front sight actually in time with the rear?

S&W, and T/C, whom they bought, also have had a terrible record with the Icon.

I own 14 Taurus handguns currently. Some are so old that they were imported by Interarms. NONE have ever needed repair due to a warranty issue. By the chronic whines we see here, that is patently impossible.

I've also noted that many S&W afficiandos are now telling everyone to buy older, discontinued, models. If the company is that good why not buy new ones? I hope that you have better luck than I did with my new S&W 617.

It's funny, but many of the complaints about ANY firearm here could have been avoided by simply examining the gun with a critical eye BEFORE purchase. After all, we look closely at a car before purchasing it, don't we?

Jim NE
January 8, 2013, 11:32 AM
Any thread about Taurus that has absolutely nothing to do with repair, durability or reliability will inevitably get some negative post about repair, durability or reliability.

My two new Tauruses have never needed anything more than break-in. And neither of them failed on me in the middle of CCW qualifying like my Smith did. DO I hate Smiths because of that? No. I have several. I love the old vintage guns. And have a few new Smiths. For some reason, people don't overlook Taurus problems like they do more expensive brands.

jcwit
January 8, 2013, 11:48 AM
Any thread about Taurus that has absolutely nothing to do with repair, durability or reliability will inevitably get some negative post about repair, durability or reliability.

My two new Tauruses have never needed anything more than break-in. And neither of them failed on me in the middle of CCW qualifying like my Smith did. DO I hate Smiths because of that? No. I have several. I love the old vintage guns. And have a few new Smiths. For some reason, people don't overlook Taurus problems like they do more expensive brands.

How true. Mayhap its the lack of bragging right the the less expensive hardware offers.

Look what happens when one brings up Hi-Point, Lee, Less Expensive scopes, the list goes on and on, into most other products in life. Its an absolute wonder I'm able to get along with a common TracFone and not need the latest Smart Phone that takes crappy pictures.

Somehow one of my most accurate and faultless handguns in a Llama 45 ACP, even tho I own a Kimber SS Custom with match barrel and a Springfield SS model.

Sgt.Murtaugh
January 8, 2013, 11:49 AM
I think it's because Taurus has a long history of inconsistent quality and inconsistent customer service whereas S&W, Ruger, Springfield all have impeccable Customer Service and better history of quality

PT92
January 8, 2013, 12:02 PM
Any thread about Taurus that has absolutely nothing to do with repair, durability or reliability will inevitably get some negative post about repair, durability or reliability.

My two new Tauruses have never needed anything more than break-in. And neither of them failed on me in the middle of CCW qualifying like my Smith did. DO I hate Smiths because of that? No. I have several. I love the old vintage guns. And have a few new Smiths. For some reason, people don't overlook Taurus problems like they do more expensive brands.

Jim,

What was I thinking :rolleyes:? Amazing that as you mention a post that just states empirical facts concerning a corporate buyout would result in virtual trolling...

Ehtereon11B
January 9, 2013, 06:47 AM
Taurus, a company with hit or miss quality buys Diamondback, another company with hit or miss quality.

2wheels
January 9, 2013, 05:12 PM
Taurus gets less respect than they deserve, they're actually capable of making some decent guns. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I don't hate on them.

Diamondback on the other hand... Cheap junk... It surprises me people still buy them.

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