hypothetical question, leaving firearm "unattended"


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thefish
January 8, 2013, 12:03 AM
Question i've been pondering.

Let's say hypothetically, you were at a friends house, or somewhere other than home, work, etc, and you were carying. The opportunity to go somewhere where carry is prohbited presented itself, and participating was more desirable than carrying. No secure gun storage ie. safe, was avaliable.

Would you:

1. Leave your gun at your friends, unloaded with gun and loaded mag in separate locations?

2. Leave your gun at your friends, unloaded with gun and loaded mag in separate locations, but dissasemble and take the barrel with you, rendering the gun completely inoperable?

Not participating, going home to store your gun, and leaving it in your car is not an option.

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USAF_Vet
January 8, 2013, 12:10 AM
I would not go.

But for being prepared, leaving it secured in the car is always an option.

Recon Ron
January 8, 2013, 12:15 AM
If I ever had a "friend" who wasn't pro-2A then I guess he wouldn't be my friend ;)



srs everyone I am friends with owns a gun safe and I trust with my firearms

Fast Frank
January 8, 2013, 12:16 AM
My friends are good, honest folks.

They are "Gun People" as well.

While I cannot imagine a situation where I would do so, I would trust them to "Hold" my sidearm for me.

I would not disassemble it, or render it useless.

thefish
January 8, 2013, 12:40 AM
Hypothetical.
I'll try to spell it out.
You are at your friends house, you walked, rode you bicycle, took the bus. Your car is not there.
Your friend doesn't have a gun safe, or he does and the lock broke. Whatever, It's not avaliable.

He says:
" I have an extra ticket to the super bowl, but we have to leave NOW. "
"I won the Lottery and we are flying to Vegas,Bermuda, Paris, _Insert exotic location here_ but we have to leave NOW"
@ USAF Vet " I just bought a SR71 Blackbird (or whatever the coolest jet is right now), Let's go for a ride, but we have to leave NOW"
" I have tickets to a invitatation only gun show where everything is at manufacturer cost, and I'll loan you $50k, but we have to leave NOW"
" I have tickets to the Mercum auto auction, but we have to leave NOW"
" Let's play Golf at Pebble Beach, Tiger woods is on his way over to pick us up, but we have to leave NOW"
"I have an extra seat on the space shuttle, but we have to leave NOW".

Think about something you couldn't pass up, once in a lifetime stuff, but couldn't carry your gun. that's the opportunity.

The question isn't if you would or would not go, it's how would you leave your gun unattended.

Stupid question mabye.

primalmu
January 8, 2013, 12:48 AM
I can't imagine any situation that would have such strict time constraints that I wouldn't be able to properly store my sidearm.

That said, it depends on the friend. Some people there is absolutely no way I would leave any part of my gun at their house. Other friends I wouldn't hesitate.

swathdiver
January 8, 2013, 12:59 AM
Leave the gun in the car if you're reasonably sure the car will be safe. But if leaving the country to Bermuda, nope! But if leaving the country in the Blackbird, you'll be back in a few hours no matter where you fly to and likely the car will be on base. But do you risk bringing a concealed weapon on base if they don't allow it? Sure, since everyone's in a hurry, they're not going to search the car. How's that?

1911 guy
January 8, 2013, 01:01 AM
I've done it. Several times, actually.

If the friend or family member is pro-gun or simply understanding, I ask to stash it in their home. Unload it and simply stash it. Consideration must be made, of course, to situations such as curious kids, etc, so the "level of stash" may be somewhat fluid. Never had to strip one to stash it, but I might.

Less desireable is putting it in my car, simply because cars are much easier to break into and are broken into far more often as a result. Simply playing the odds.

Last time we didn't even go anywhere. An afternoon visit turned into an all-night BBQ with a few adult beverages and neighborhood people he wasn't sure about (block party atmosphere), so I quietly "stashed" it among he and his wifes' pots and pans in a kitchen cupboard.

gazpacho
January 8, 2013, 01:02 AM
Hypothetical?

Coldcock the vet
Steal the blackbird
Fly to vegas
Attend shotshow
Hit the megabucks slots at Ceasars
Phone in the winning bid on a 62 vette at Mecum
Have the vette delivered
pick up Tiger Woods
Drive like a maniac to Pebble Beach
Win a black caddy with a hole in one
Drive the caddy like a maniac back to vegas
Hop in the blackbird and fly it to cape canaveral
Steal the space shuttle
Fly up to the international space station
Deliver 147 Dijorno Pizzas
Fly back to earth
Crash the shuttle into the superbowl . . .

. . . And sell the book rights for a cool 1.8 billion dollars.

Hypothetically. :evil:

Ragnar Danneskjold
January 8, 2013, 03:00 AM
I have been in a similar situation, so this question is totally reasonable. I was in Detroit visiting a few buddies I used to play drums with. These are musician friends that I have known since long before I became interested in firearms. The opportunity to attend a Red Wings home game arose unexpectedly, and the game was scheduled to start in less than 2 hours. As the Joe Louis Arena does not allow firearms nor does Michigan state law, I had to leave my pistol behind. I did have my car with me, but as it was Detroit I did not feel comfortable leaving a pistol in an unattended vehicle.
I ended up leaving the magazine in my car, and put the pistol inside of a Ziploc baggie which then went inside a cereal box.

Isaac-1
January 8, 2013, 03:11 AM
Assuming the friend lived in a low crime area, and no one else was going to be in his place, sure, I would put it in a closet, drawer, etc. If there were a chance kids would be around, etc. I would remove the barrel or other necessary functional part as well as seperate the ammo.

Robert
January 8, 2013, 09:09 AM
We don't do what if... And if going home is not an option I'd say you have bigger problems.

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