Travis Haley from Magpul - Reflections on America and the 2nd amendment


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Big Boy
January 11, 2013, 12:25 AM
If you've ever watched a video on the second amendment this is the one to watch.

I don't care if some one is anti or pro, there is no arguing with well articulated thoughts and logic.

That's what I have hated about a lot of this back and forth that has been going on. While there are people like Ted Nugent and Alex Jones that I will honestly admit, are needed to combat the "just as crazies" that are on the other side Travis makes calm, cool, collective thoughts. He gives no opinions, simply thoughts.

I don't have much to add to what Travis said, I will simply highlight two of his statements.

"Do your damn homework and stop being reactive"

"Even if we took away all of the guns in the world, and even if the non existence of guns lowered crime rates, would it be worth the price of tyranny?"
(paraphrased for space, but exactly what he said)

Understand history, understand the past. Know what freedom is. Know how people had to fight and what they had to sacrifice to get it.

http://youtu.be/yIGzj6eIwWU

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dpote
January 11, 2013, 01:11 AM
Quite possibly the best video I have seen.

Dave

taliv
January 11, 2013, 01:16 AM
it is a pretty stark contrast to yeager's video

gspn
January 11, 2013, 01:25 AM
Dude...he needs to learn the art of summarizing He lost me...three minutes in and I still had no idea what he was saying.

smogmage
January 11, 2013, 01:48 AM
"Dude...he needs to learn the art of summarizing He lost me...three minutes in and I still had no idea what he was saying. "

You are exactly the problem with this country. I me my give me now... You should just keep moving along. Nothing for you to see here. His vid is about questions, the search for answers to those questions and thoughful understanding thereof. This isnt Mcdonalds. You cant order a #3 with fries at the drive through window.


Also;
"Even if we took away all of the guns in the world, and even if the non existence of guns lowered crime rates, would it be worth the price of tyranny?"
(paraphrased for space, but exactly what he said)

Quote is actually from Nutnfancy in his recent vid on youtube.

Big Boy
January 11, 2013, 02:00 AM
This isnt Mcdonalds. You cant order a #3 with fries at the drive through window.

I wish this were facebook so I could "like" that :)

Quote is actually from Nutnfancy in his recent vid on youtube.

Yeah I know it's from nutnfacny, but I didn't want to add confusion to my commentary on the video by mentioning someone else. If you watch the video he obviously states it's from nutnfancy. I also wont hide that I'm not the biggest fan of nutnfancy, even if he did have a moment of enlightenment that he commented on :uhoh:

fxstchewy
January 11, 2013, 08:26 AM
Good video......

mcdonl
January 11, 2013, 09:43 AM
That was a good video. Makes you think.

Taliv, would you mind posting a link to yeager's video?

taliv
January 11, 2013, 10:05 AM
i believe he took it down. but the crux of his video was that he's angry about gun control and not budging another inch. one more inch and he's going to start killing people. it was a concise video at about 1.5 min long, so somewhat more consumable for the people who don't have time to think about their rights.

mcdonl
January 11, 2013, 10:11 AM
Sounds less than productive. Thanks Taliv.

Hapworth
January 11, 2013, 10:19 AM
You are exactly the problem with this country. No, he's not, he just likes things more concise and with a clearly defined thesis statement, just like your high school English teacher. Relax.

gspn
January 11, 2013, 12:42 PM
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You are exactly the problem with this country. I me my give me now... You should just keep moving along. Nothing for you to see here. His vid is about questions, the search for answers to those questions and thoughful understanding thereof. This isnt Mcdonalds. You cant order a #3 with fries at the drive through window.


Also;

HA! I who have served my country twice in the Marine Corps am the problem with our country...that's a good one.

I reject your premise and counter that drama queens like yourself are a problem.

Ragnar Danneskjold
January 11, 2013, 02:51 PM
Stop bickering or a good thread about a good video from a good 2A advocate will get locked.

freyasman
January 11, 2013, 03:05 PM
^^^ this... As usual, I agree with Ragnar. HIGH ROAD people; HIGH ROAD...

FIVETWOSEVEN
January 11, 2013, 04:01 PM
i believe he took it down. but the crux of his video was that he's angry about gun control and not budging another inch. one more inch and he's going to start killing people. it was a concise video at about 1.5 min long, so somewhat more consumable for the people who don't have time to think about their rights.

I believe he put the same thing up minus the part where he's gonna start killing people. I couldn't tell you either way since I don't watch his videos because hes a big....*Ahem* Never mind.

Ryanxia
January 11, 2013, 09:39 PM
That was a really good video. While it's definitely good for all of us to watch, it's too bad most of the anti's won't.

Carter
January 11, 2013, 09:42 PM
Military Arms Channel has something up on facebook saying TN suspended Yeager's CCW.


I very much liked Haley's video. It was a joy to watch and I wish he could get more exposure on the issue.

Armatus
January 11, 2013, 10:11 PM
Great video. No amount of truth or logic will convince the antis that they are wrong on the issue of gun control and how to curb gun violence. The 2A was put into the Constitution to keep us free from Tyranny and oppression, but whether ill informed, or just blatant disregard for the foundation of this country, liberals will do whatever to further their agenda.

wacki
January 11, 2013, 11:56 PM
I stopped reading at this:

No amount of truth or logic will convince the antis

Makes me think you are too lazy to try. I've converted numerous (guessing 20) anti's in my life. Read a few dozen books, educate yourself. With the right tools it's not that hard.

FIVETWOSEVEN
January 12, 2013, 01:35 AM
Military Arms Channel has something up on facebook saying TN suspended Yeager's CCW.

http://www.examiner.com/article/man-apologizes-for-threats-after-tenn-revokes-his-carry-permit

Serves him right IMO, maybe now he'll take it down a notch.

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