6 shot .31 questions


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kBob
January 11, 2013, 07:09 AM
The interweb ate my post.....

Thought I posted this yesterday AM but I can not find it so here goes again.....

With the recent ID help topic I have learning just how little I know about 1849s and I have been wondering what are the differences between a five and six shot 1849 COlt .31.

Are the charge holes/chambers just closer together and there is less web between them and the cylinder the same size?

Is the hand a different length to deal with the changed number of shots?

Is the frame in any way different?

The reason I ask is that I am wondering why one of the conversion cylinder out fits could not make a replacement six shot cylinder and hand for folks owning an Uberti or Colt latest series 1849 five shot.

No doubt those of us with long out of business firm Brass frame 1849-ish guns would not be able to play but no reason those of you with money should not be able to have a "high capacity" 1849.

Hopefully this time I see the post.

-kBob

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swathdiver
January 11, 2013, 10:37 AM
Your questions have been answered by Dr. Davis on another forum (blackpowdersmoke?). With the advent of superior metals, Colt went from 5 to 6 shots and lengthened the frame. The Italians though use the lengthened frame but made only 5-shot guns. It is my understanding that the internals are exactly the same, just as they are for the .36 caliber pocket models.

Fingers McGee
January 11, 2013, 12:22 PM
Your questions have been answered by Dr. Davis on another forum (blackpowdersmoke?). With the advent of superior metals, Colt went from 5 to 6 shots and lengthened the frame. The Italians though use the lengthened frame but made only 5-shot guns. It is my understanding that the internals are exactly the same, just as they are for the .36 caliber pocket models.

+1, more or less. Pocket models could be ordered with either 5 or 6 shot cylinders - the 6 shot cylinder guns costing $.50 more. The frame length change occurred between the Baby Dragoon and Pocket Model. The reason for lengthening the frame was to make enough room between the cylinder and barrel lug to allow a conical or ball to be loaded in the cylinder without disdassembling the pistol, like had to be done on the Baby Dragoons.

The R&D cartridge conversion cylinders for the '49 Pocket model is a 6 shot 32 H&R. It dropped right in and worked perfectly in my Uberti pocket model.

kBob
January 11, 2013, 02:36 PM
See thanks to you guys I am still learning.....


I did not know the replicas and later originals have a longer frame......

Fingers,

.32 H&R mag ? that must bark a bit i that little gun! Sounds like fun and a half.

-kBob

Fingers McGee
January 11, 2013, 11:38 PM
.32 H&R mag ? that must bark a bit i that little gun! Sounds like fun and a half.

No, I misspoke, 32 S&W not H&R. Don't know what I was thinking. Even so, it still barks. And, I don't believe you can still get the 6 shpt cylinder. I bought mine when they first came out.

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